Packt
Starter
Bibby is at 13.5 mil, Gooden/Gibson is a little over 7 mil.
edit: Gooden is BYC, which complicates things.
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Bibby is at 13.5 mil, Gooden/Gibson is a little over 7 mil.
edit: Gooden is BYC, which complicates things.
Big Cuz 15
All-Star
why would we even consider those scrubs for bibby? i would let bibby walk before taking on those 2.
Wow, just wow...have you seen the rosters he coached???
Quick dog with a beautiful post...I'm amazed that Jerry has spent 20+ years with the Kings in a list of roles that runs the gamut. With having such pitiful records while he coached a pitiful roster, maybe just maybe his ability to assess talent(both in basketball and front office hirings) has allowed him to be an integral part of the franchise.
Your post reeks with ignorance.
Not after JULY 1st
Bricklayer
Don't Make Me Use The Bat
Better question is why the hell we'd rather have spot-on-the-head and a guy who was probably made to look far better than he is by LeBron. That's just trading him to trade him at a certain point. Gooden is no answer, and Gibson is probably best served sticking with LeBron and hitting clutch jumpers when LBJ gets triple teamed.
Open to Bibby moves as always, but we have to get real potential out of it to make it worth it. Cap room, picks, kids with big upside, something.
Kingster
Hall of Famer
You're right. That was the game I missed seeing (darn it). I do remember though that when Magic played guard, not center, he wasn't the tornado that you would have expected.
Sac4cwebb
G-League
Bibby trade rumors flying in Cleveland
http://www.insidehoops.com/nba_rumors.shtml
NBA Rumors: Mon, June 18
One way he can do that is by revisiting a possible trade the Cavs contemplated during the season with the Sacramento Kings for point guard Mike Bibby. Not only would Bibby help the team's outside shooting -- he shot 36 percent from 3-point range -- but he's also the distributor the Cavs crave. Cleveland Plain Dealer
The Larry Hughes project at point guard is over and rookie Daniel "Boobie" Gibson is only a point guard in body and not in mind. Gibson is more valuable as a shooter coming off the bench in the mode of former Detroit Pistons guard Vinnie Johnson. Cleveland Plain Dealer
Bibby can opt out of his contract this summer and become a free agent or he could agree to a sign-and-trade with the Cavs. Bibby, who has two years left on his current deal, is scheduled to make about $13.5 million next season. Cleveland Plain Dealer
If a deal for Bibby doesn't happen, the Cavs could seek Milwaukee point guard Earl Boykins, who can decline his player option for $3 million next season to become a free agent on July 1. Boykins, a Cleveland native, has excellent speed, is a good distributor and he has an outside shot. Cleveland Plain Dealer
Plus, according to several sources, Boykins is interested in coming back home. The Cavs do have their mid-level exception ($5.5 million) available but Boykins will certainly seek more compensation. The Cavs also could acquire Boykins through a sign-and-trade, where the Bucks would sign him to a deal and trade him to Cleveland. Cleveland Plain Dealer
http://www.insidehoops.com/nba_rumors.shtml
NBA Rumors: Mon, June 18
One way he can do that is by revisiting a possible trade the Cavs contemplated during the season with the Sacramento Kings for point guard Mike Bibby. Not only would Bibby help the team's outside shooting -- he shot 36 percent from 3-point range -- but he's also the distributor the Cavs crave. Cleveland Plain Dealer
The Larry Hughes project at point guard is over and rookie Daniel "Boobie" Gibson is only a point guard in body and not in mind. Gibson is more valuable as a shooter coming off the bench in the mode of former Detroit Pistons guard Vinnie Johnson. Cleveland Plain Dealer
Bibby can opt out of his contract this summer and become a free agent or he could agree to a sign-and-trade with the Cavs. Bibby, who has two years left on his current deal, is scheduled to make about $13.5 million next season. Cleveland Plain Dealer
If a deal for Bibby doesn't happen, the Cavs could seek Milwaukee point guard Earl Boykins, who can decline his player option for $3 million next season to become a free agent on July 1. Boykins, a Cleveland native, has excellent speed, is a good distributor and he has an outside shot. Cleveland Plain Dealer
Plus, according to several sources, Boykins is interested in coming back home. The Cavs do have their mid-level exception ($5.5 million) available but Boykins will certainly seek more compensation. The Cavs also could acquire Boykins through a sign-and-trade, where the Bucks would sign him to a deal and trade him to Cleveland. Cleveland Plain Dealer
Bricklayer
Don't Make Me Use The Bat
Criky -- this must have been thrown together by a staffer borrowed from the food page or some such.
1) Mike is not exactly the distributor they "crave". However,given that I ma not so sure it is a distributor they crave so much as a shooter who can control the offense and score consistently as a #2, the general point should be ok.
2) were doing fine here until they invoked The Mircowave. No comparions. None. Vinny came in off the bench firingl, creating his own offense, and wiht the bulk and strength to pay OG as well as PG. Boobie I think is best used as a cold blooded shooter off the bench, but the comparison is ridiculous.
3) let's see, the first line is confused, because the only Mike can do a sign and trade is if he DOES become a free agent -- its not an either or.
4) Boykins is not a distributor either. One of his Achilles. He's a scorer, first and last. could help them though.
5) Boykins will seek MORE than the MLE? Are you kidding me dude/dudette? He'll be lucky to get the whole thing, let alone go chase $7mil a year or whatnot.
1) Mike is not exactly the distributor they "crave". However,given that I ma not so sure it is a distributor they crave so much as a shooter who can control the offense and score consistently as a #2, the general point should be ok.
2) were doing fine here until they invoked The Mircowave. No comparions. None. Vinny came in off the bench firingl, creating his own offense, and wiht the bulk and strength to pay OG as well as PG. Boobie I think is best used as a cold blooded shooter off the bench, but the comparison is ridiculous.
3) let's see, the first line is confused, because the only Mike can do a sign and trade is if he DOES become a free agent -- its not an either or.
4) Boykins is not a distributor either. One of his Achilles. He's a scorer, first and last. could help them though.
5) Boykins will seek MORE than the MLE? Are you kidding me dude/dudette? He'll be lucky to get the whole thing, let alone go chase $7mil a year or whatnot.
Didn't necessarily say that he doesn't "know" basketball, qd; I'm saying that he's not the basketball savant that Smills91 makes him out to be. And, by the way, nothing that you said after the first sentence serves as any particular form of evidence that the first sentence is actually true. He may well have been a victim of bad luck and circumstance, but that's not exactly proof that, if he'd have had better luck and circumstance, that he would have done any better.
Hardly. There's much more ignorance in the ridiculously obnoxious assertion that Jerry F. Reynolds has "forgotten more basketball in his little pinky finger than you'll have ever learned your entire life." I really, really don't think so.
You can play the "if" game all you want to, but Reynolds didn't get it done, and he didn't come close; that's his legacy. A likable "hick" (in his own words) who never delivered. Never delivered, got it? Those are the facts. You can hem and haw all you want to about if he'd have had this, or if he'd have had that, but the facts in this case are undisputed: Jerry Reynolds as a coach, general manager, or in any substantial basketball capacity, is a loser. You can make whatever excuses you want to, attribute it to bad luck, bad ownership, bad players, an Indian burial ground, a leaky roof, or whatever else you want to, but 56-114 cannot be argued against.
I'm sure that, if you were sitting down in a bar with him just talking about basketball, he'd sound really smart. But you know what, so does Eric Musselman, and he's a bum, too. In fact, if his track record suggests anything, it's that you don't have to know anything in particular about basketball to get a job in the NBA, as long as you know the right people.
If Reynolds were half as smart as you claim him to be, some owner somewhere would be paying him a boatload of money to run their team.
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Bricklayer
Don't Make Me Use The Bat
Jerry Reynolds has spent most of the last 20+ years as the eager puppy willing to fetch anybody's slippers who will pay him, increasingly in his role as the designated put on a happy, vapid face for the public guy. He's not a basketball man at all anymore -- he's a PR stunt.
And when he WAS an "intergral part of the franchise" the franchise was a complete joke. Its unfortunate in a way since his abdication of basketball acumen in favor of the Chuckles the Hick schtick effectively means that we long time fans actually have more institutional memory than anybody in the organization that matters. But on the other hand, Jerry's probably found his true calling. At no point did he ever prove he was an NBA caliber basketball man, as a coach or a GM. But as the happy hick spouting the company line with a silly grin on his face, he excels.
Now as for the people still willing to nod along, stars in their eyes, as he plies his befuddled trade, informs you shotblocking is overrated, that Reef's best position is at center, that Kevin is great defender, Mike an All Star etc. etc. ad nauseam...when a fool leads, what do you call those that follow?
Well 20+ years in the NBA is a lot to be said about that. That's still exactly 1 second and 20+ years more than you've had. I'll take his opinion over yours any second of the day.
GoGoGadget
All-Star
Your loss. Brick and Slim are not only two of the more knowledgeable posters here, but are at or beyond the same level as all them fancy folks you see on the TV screen.
I know their posts quite well, and I agree they are both knowledgeable posters, however, if I had to choose an opinion of Brick vs. JR...it's undoubtedly Jerry....the guy's forgotten more basketball than most people hope to have learned in a lifetime, and that includes both Brick and Slim.
And again with the ridiculous hyperbole.
In a lifetime? A lifetime? Please. There's no one on the planet, alive or dead, that's forgotten more about basketball than most people hope to have learned in a lifetime, and that includes Doctor James F. Naismith... Basketball just isn't that complex.
If you want to make the case that Reynolds knows more about basketball than I do, fine; I tend to believe that I can coach a team to fifty-five losses as easily as the next guy, but that's neither here nor there... But this insistence that he's forgotten more about basketball than most people hope to have learned in a lifetime? You need to go somewhere else with that bull****.
In a lifetime? A lifetime? Please. There's no one on the planet, alive or dead, that's forgotten more about basketball than most people hope to have learned in a lifetime, and that includes Doctor James F. Naismith... Basketball just isn't that complex.
If you want to make the case that Reynolds knows more about basketball than I do, fine; I tend to believe that I can coach a team to fifty-five losses as easily as the next guy, but that's neither here nor there... But this insistence that he's forgotten more about basketball than most people hope to have learned in a lifetime? You need to go somewhere else with that bull****.
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