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Kings going through wringer
Coach Reggie Theus pushes players hard during training camp.
By Sam Amick - Bee Staff Writer
Last Updated 1:06 am PDT Saturday, October 6, 2007
Story appeared in SPORTS section, Page C1


The shirts are meant for more than collecting sweat, a team-issued variety that Kings coach Reggie Theus had made with a purpose.

"T-eam, R-espect, U-rgency, S-acrifice, T-oughness."

Trust.

After the Kings had worked 3 1/2 hours Friday at their practice facility, their shirts carried so much perspiration that they represented a different 'T' word altogether.

Tired.

Theus' first training camp as an NBA coach has been a rigorous one, by no means as methodical as those under Rick Adelman and -- players say -- a step up in intensity from those under Eric Musselman. A Friday scrimmage displayed what Theus has been preaching, a game that would have made Bill Laimbeer smile and Peja Stojakovic cringe.

For nearly 90 minutes, bodies banged no matter how many millions they were worth. Offseason addition Mikki Moore flailed ferociously, Francisco García and Kevin Martin took charges of the most painful kind, and Ron Artest made his way through the paint as if he were the bowling ball and his teammates the pins. Kings center Brad Miller finished the session with his left foot in a bucket of ice, an energetic teammate having stepped on an already sore toe to cause his early exit.

This, of course, was supposed to be the lighter day, the first time since camp started Monday when the team would practice once instead of twice. Asked if he would hit the coaching brakes a bit as Tuesday's exhibition opener at home against Seattle nears, Theus sounded ready to keep the gas pedal down.

"I've actually been thinking about, Where do I back off?" Theus said. "And you know what? We're trying to make the playoffs, and I think that a hard training camp sets the tone.

"Today's the first day where guys looked at me and said, 'C'mon, coach, we've got to call some fouls.' We had guys pretty much going in there with forearms and elbows."

In less than a week, two coaching realities about Theus have been revealed. For starters, the notion that he had come on the scene as a former player befriending his younger brothers in the NBA fraternity was quickly dispelled when word of his Reggie Rules leaked.

A midnight curfew on evenings before road games was the true tone setter, coupled with his banning the use of cell phones on the team bus. Now comes the second part, the obvious fact that Theus' focus and intentions for team identity on the floor couldn't be further from his image as an offense-first player.

Time and again, Theus has told his new squad that scoring is not the concern.

Mike Bibby has put up points his entire career, and Martin did it as efficiently as anyone in the league last season, leading the Kings. A lighter Miller should be able to regain his offensive game, and Artest certainly is a dangerous offensive threat. Thus, leave that end of the floor for later.

Miller estimates that defense has been the focus for 80 percent of the current camp, mixed in with 20 percent offense and conditioning.

Oh, the conditioning.

The first day came with the order of 28-second suicides. Miller said his best time was 32 seconds, during his college days at Purdue. Again, the tone was set.

"That whooped our (butts)," said Miller, who nonetheless achieved the task.

There are old-fashioned pushups, too, sets of five when Theus is unhappy with the effort. And thus far, there is no such thing as halfcourt.

"I think the difference is Musselman's (camp) was intense, but it was mostly halfcourt," Martin said. "Adelman's was productive, but he had his veteran players, and they knew what to do. Reggie, this year, I think, is a lot tougher because it's more up and down on both ends ... . Everybody's definitely competing right now on a positive level."

About the writer: The Bee's Sam Amick can be reached at samick@sacbee.com.
 
Miller estimates that defense has been the focus for 80 percent of the current camp, mixed in with 20 percent offense and conditioning.

Oh, the conditioning.

The first day came with the order of 28-second suicides. Miller said his best time was 32 seconds, during his college days at Purdue. Again, the tone was set.

"That whooped our (butts)," said Miller, who nonetheless achieved the task.

Miller beat his college time by 4 seconds? Now that gives me shivers ... the good kind.

I LIKE what I'm hearing so far. If nothing else, I think this year is gonna be fun, for the players and the fans.

I LOVE THIS TEAM!!!
 
Miller beat his college time by 4 seconds? Now that gives me shivers ... the good kind.

I LIKE what I'm hearing so far. If nothing else, I think this year is gonna be fun, for the players and the fans.

I LOVE THIS TEAM!!!

Couldn't Agree more
 
Well, that is good news for starters. Shoot, anything is good news compared to what Musselman did to this team. I think Musselman set the team back five to ten years. God hope Reggie Theus can get this team back in the right direction. I think he will do that this year.
 
It looks like this season is gonna be all business and I'm glad Theus is making the players "earn their pay" and making them give 110%.
 
Miller beat his college time by 4 seconds? Now that gives me shivers ... the good kind.

I LIKE what I'm hearing so far. If nothing else, I think this year is gonna be fun, for the players and the fans.

I LOVE THIS TEAM!!!

That camp is sounding pretty tought. The way I read that quote though is that 28 second suicides were ordered, and Miller noted that his best time in college was 32 seconds. That would illustrate how tough that may be for a Vet to accomplish almost what they did back in college.
 
The first day came with the order of 28-second suicides. Miller said his best time was 32 seconds, during his college days at Purdue. Again, the tone was set.

"That whooped our (butts)," said Miller, who nonetheless achieved the task.

The first day came with the order of 28-second suicides. Miller, who said his best time had been 32 seconds during his college days at Purdue, nonetheless achieved the task.

I'm pretty sure that means Miller met the 28-second requirement, since that would be the "task" Amick was referring to.
 
As my buddy The Gunney would say:

HOOO RAHH!! I like what I'm hearing. Here is my poster guy for the Kings Preseason, "Gimme 28 second suicides, num nuts!":
(with credit to PurpleHaze for thinking about Gunney first!!)
 

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I am ALMOST afraid to say this but, this could be a very exciting season! Imagine,we could actually have fun watching them again - even better, they could enjoy playing again. GO KINGS!!!!!
 
For nearly 90 minutes, bodies banged no matter how many millions they were worth. Offseason addition Mikki Moore flailed ferociously, Francisco García and Kevin Martin took charges of the most painful kind, and Ron Artest made his way through the paint as if he were the bowling ball and his teammates the pins.


That right there got me pumped!... I can't wait for the season to start!!!
 
Miller beat his college time by 4 seconds? Now that gives me shivers ... the good kind.

I LIKE what I'm hearing so far. If nothing else, I think this year is gonna be fun, for the players and the fans.

I LOVE THIS TEAM!!!

I am thrilled with the hire of Reggie. But for the most part, this roster is the same. What is it that is generating the love of the 07-08 Kings?

Is it the discipline?
Is it just the transparency of Theus?

The one thing that has jumped out for me is that you have not heard very much from #10.:confused: And what you heard from him in the beginning was not very positive.
 
What is exciting about this is Theus is tone-setting. If he can command this response and respect into the season - something which Muss was clearly unable to do - it will translate into some positive results. Not necessarily a ton more wins, but some... and from a team that is at least competitive.
 
Forgive my ignorance; what's a 28-second suicide?

Suicides are sprint (running) drills - 28-seconds is the time RT gave them to complete the sprints. Usually harder for the big fellas to do than the guards. ;)
 
Muss undermined his authority with the DUI. I don't mind Reggie setting boundaries, I think that's a good thing. You can always pull back if need be, but you can't start being tough midway through the season. What I'm concerned about is that if there is any rebellion, players will protest by breaking the rules. He's been putting on a tough guy act, but how will he handle grown men snapping his rules. It sounds like a recipe for nasty confrontations.

As with Muss, things should be good if they're winning. The real test is if they're losing. What will happen then, and how will Reggie adjust.
 
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What I'm concerned about is that if there is any rebellion, players will protest by breaking the rules. He's been putting on a tough guy act, but how will he handle grown men snapping his rules. It sounds like a recipe for nasty confrontations.

As with Muss, things should be good if they're winning. The real test is if they're losing. What will happen then, and how will Reggie adjust.

If there's a rebellion, we're gonna have a lot more to worry about than whether they're using their cell phone on the team bus or staying out on the road past midnight...
 
If there's a rebellion, we're gonna have a lot more to worry about than whether they're using their cell phone on the team bus or staying out on the road past midnight...


Well that's kind of the point. Those things are cute, but largely irrelevant. If the going gets tough and they provide an extra point of friction though, then that becomes stupid and unnecessary. There are more than enough points of friction on a poorly constructed team without much chance of success (minutes, shots, starting roles etc.) without poking an extra stick out there to see which of the big ego multimillionaire adult alpha males snaps at you first.

The tactic Reggie is employing is not exactly a new one -- its the same one used by the frill-necked lizard. Puff yourself up, bluster and blow hard, and make yourself appear bigger and more formidable than you are. As long as everybody buys it and cows down, you are golden, and meanwhile you try to actually develop a real seat of power in the background for the inevitable day when somebody challenges you. But if somebody sees thru it early, and calls the bluff...that's where the problem lies. Then you're suddenly put up against it and either have to pee somebody off and threaten chemistry and a similar slow building revolt similar to the one that took down Muss, and all over cell phone violations and curfews as if these guys were your 14 yr old daughter. Or you back down and risk everybody seeing that the frill is just a frill, and the lizard behind it is a scrawny little weakling striking a pose. Its a high risk maneuver.


Reggie Theus on a bad hair day:

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Sorry, Brick. I know this will come as a shock, but I totally and completely disagree. Reggie has, according to more than one source, spent a lot of time getting to know the players already and talking with them about what their goals should be and how they can achieve them. I don't think the Rules came as a big shock to the guys wearing the jerseys. They are merely a way to show that there is going to be structure and accountability.

I honestly believe he's in a little better position to gauge how the team will react to this kind of thing, dealing with them every day, than we are.

My response to Packt's comments was based on how I read his statement about "IF there's a rebellion..." I took that to mean that if something sets everybody off besides the rules, the rules will be the things that they start to break...

Regardless, I'm hearing a lot of good things about the attitude of the team, the staff, etc. right now. There's a feeling that was sorely missing last year and if Reggie is even partially responsible for the team regaining some of their unity and team pride, I'm already in his debt.
 
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I'm guessing that when Theus spoke one on one with the players in the off-season, he got their input as to what they thought went wrong, what the team might need (discipline and structure), etc. If most of the players said that the team was missing these elements and he's implementing them based on their input, I don't see this as a risky manuever. On the contrary, he's given them input and he's put the rules out there that this team seems to need at the moment.

Also, new coaches need to come in and set the expectations firmly in the beginning. If a player isn't on board with the rules and expectations, doesn't that say something about that player?
 
Forgive my ignorance; what's a 28-second suicide?



You start from the base-line...You run from free throw line back to the baseline, then halfcourt back to the baseline, then the other free throw line back to the baseline, then full court back to the baseline or through the free throw line at the same end as you started with. Just depends on the coach you have...
 
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