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A rough night
Artest scores 39 but makes two blunders handling ball
By Scott Howard-Cooper - Bee Staff Writer
Last Updated 12:23 am PST Wednesday, February 14, 2007


HOUSTON-His night of basketball schizophrenia complete, Ron Artest said he lost his footing but not his way and that he still thinks the ball should be in his hands in the tense moments. So at least he has a point guard's mentality.

It was after his swerving Tuesday night at the Toyota Center. Artest tied a career high with 39 points, but he had made two critical mistakes as the ballhandler, one a mental lapse and another a failed execution with a chance to win the game.

He also had eight rebounds and the stated support of coach Eric Musselman. But the Kings had a 109-104 overtime loss to the Houston Rockets after leading by nine with 4:09 left in regulation.

With 7:12 to play in the fourth quarter, Artest dribbled out the 24-second clock, with no apparent awareness he was near a turnover. At the time, the Kings were building momentum for what might have become one of their biggest victories of the season and the symbol of their February recovery.

Then, with the chance to win after Artest had stolen the ball, the Kings called timeout with 23.5 seconds left in the fourth. In a 97-97 game, they could play for the last shot.

Artest brought the ball into the frontcourt and worked the clock down. He lost his dribble about 35 feet from the basket, picked it up and passed to Mike Bibby, then got a return pass. Artest lost the handle again.

Houston grabbed the free ball. The Rockets were unable to turn it into a last-second basket, but they had survived that final defensive stand without the Kings getting so much as a shot, reaching overtime.

"I just know next time not to lose the ball," Artest said. "Next time, to make sure I get the bucket."

The explanation was simple enough. The night was Artest's potential greatness and uncertainty come together.

"I slipped twice, unfortunately," he said. "The ball got caught on my leg one time. The other time, I lost my footing."

Bibby was on the floor at the critical moment. He was asked later about the difference between an experienced point guard handling the ball in that kind of moment and a small forward who has been entrusted by former coach Rick Adelman and Musselman to run the offense.

"I'm just here," Bibby said. "I'm just here."

The Rockets would not waste the opportunity of overtime, building a 107-104 lead with 33 seconds to go. The Kings still had enough time for a comfortable play and a three-point attempt to tie but got another failed execution instead. John Salmons became trapped along the sideline, and Luther Head knocked the ball away from him.

End of chances.

The Kings fouled immediately to stop the clock. Then they quickly fouled again to send Head to the line, hoping he would miss at least one and they could stay alive with a three-pointer and a subsequent foul.

When Head made both with seven seconds left, the margin had grown to an insurmountable 109-104.

"There were a lot of frustrating things to that game," Kevin Martin said. "Just because we lost."

This was merely the biggest test for the resurgent offense that had grown from the ruins of the 10-point third quarter Jan. 26 at New Orleans. The next night, the Kings shot 52.7 percent against Dallas, a quality defensive team, and took off from there until the winning streak had reached five and the shooting had become uncommonly accurate.

Entering Tuesday, the Kings still were just 22nd in the league in field-goal percentage at 44.9. But starting with that previous pass through Texas, they had played eight games, shot 50 percent or better three times and better than the 44.9 two other outings. Among those at the real gold standard -- 50 percent -- two were at the expense of teams in the top 10 in shooting defense, the Mavericks and Hornets.

The Rockets, though, were No. 1. The Kings started strong, only to finish at 44.4 percent, encouragement and disappointment merged again.

About the writer: The Bee's Scott Howard-Cooper can be reached at showard-cooper@sacbee.com.
 
Bibby was on the floor at the critical moment. He was asked later about the difference between an experienced point guard handling the ball in that kind of moment and a small forward who has been entrusted by former coach Rick Adelman and Musselman to run the offense.

"I'm just here," Bibby said. "I'm just here."

...

And that is the exact comment I was hoping I would never see. I think Bricklayer may have hit the nail on the head. That sounds like someone who thinks they're on the way out. I hope I'm wrong.

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Bibby was on the floor at the critical moment. He was asked later about the difference between an experienced point guard handling the ball in that kind of moment and a small forward who has been entrusted by former coach Rick Adelman and Musselman to run the offense.

"I'm just here," Bibby said. "I'm just here."

And what is that supposed to mean??:confused: That is one of the oddest responses I've seen a player give.
 
It can mean:

A. I'm just here earning my paycheck, OR

B. I'm just a body in this system, no longer the focal point thanks to coaching.


Most people here would say A. Others would say B. I'm for B, with Bibby beginning to lean towards A.
 
It can mean:

A. I'm just here earning my paycheck, OR

B. I'm just a body in this system, no longer the focal point thanks to coaching.


Most people here would say A. Others would say B. I'm for B, with Bibby beginning to lean towards A.


Its definately b. He thinks hes being shopped. This certainly wont desuade him from that.
 
I think he's being shopped too... and at an all-time low in trade value I'm almost scared to imagine what we'd get in return.
 
I think that it is B as well.

I was going to post this is the Hornets game thread for today, but it is not up yet, so I'll put it here.

I think tonight has a very good chance of being Mike's last game as a King. Many of you will be happy. I, for one, will be sincerely disappointed and sad.
I know that I am talking like he is already gone, but I just can't shake the feeling that this it. His qoute only helps to confirm that to me. In all the years that I have watched Bibby (including his AZ days) I have NEVER seen him like this. I think he knows it too. We also have a history of trading on the road. The all star beak also gives plenty of time to get physicals done.

Because of that, I hope that he has amazing game tonight and of course that we win. Most of all, I would like for him to go out on some semblance of a high note for us.

So just maybe, those of you who do not like him, or just want him traded "for the benefit of the team," and those of you who a pulling for us to lose, can cheer for your team and him tonight. Maybe we can remember what he has done for us in the past, and just for old times sake, root for him (all of them) to do well.

Maybe I am wrong. I hope I am. BU\ut if not, he is the last, in my mind, of one of the greatest teams. At worst, it was a tream that gave many of us wonderful games and memories.

I know that it is sappy, but I think this could be it for him. Tonight I'll be cheering for the Kings, as usual, but with an extra cheer for him.
 
does KT have any brothers ?

No, but I hear his grandmother is looking to come out of retirement. And in addition to being a locker room cancer, she'll burn all her chocolate chip cookies too!
 
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I think that it is B as well.

I was going to post this is the Hornets game thread for today, but it is not up yet, so I'll put it here.

I think tonight has a very good chance of being Mike's last game as a King. Many of you will be happy. I, for one, will be sincerely disappointed and sad.
I know that I am talking like he is already gone, but I just can't shake the feeling that this it. His qoute only helps to confirm that to me. In all the years that I have watched Bibby (including his AZ days) I have NEVER seen him like this. I think he knows it too. We also have a history of trading on the road. The all star beak also gives plenty of time to get physicals done.

Because of that, I hope that he has amazing game tonight and of course that we win. Most of all, I would like for him to go out on some semblance of a high note for us.

So just maybe, those of you who do not like him, or just want him traded "for the benefit of the team," and those of you who a pulling for us to lose, can cheer for your team and him tonight. Maybe we can remember what he has done for us in the past, and just for old times sake, root for him (all of them) to do well.

Maybe I am wrong. I hope I am. BU\ut if not, he is the last, in my mind, of one of the greatest teams. At worst, it was a tream that gave many of us wonderful games and memories.

I know that it is sappy, but I think this could be it for him. Tonight I'll be cheering for the Kings, as usual, but with an extra cheer for him.

Wow. I couldn't have expressed that better myself. Mike has always come across as what I like to call "Icey"...nothing could shake him in his game....period. It seems to me he's been beaten into submission by the coach, management AND the BOO BIRDS! I know he gets paid alot of $$, please leave that out of it. However, I could see and hear the disappointment that first time he started getting booed in ARCO...and it hasn't stopped. The fact that he wasn't even in the plans to take the last shot last night basically sums it up. "He's just here"...if nothing else that is his strongest asset, and we're not even using him for his strengths anymore.
I am with you...I will find somewhere to watch the game tonight, my son and I will both have on our BIBBY jerseys....give em hell Mike!
 
Wow. I couldn't have expressed that better myself. Mike has always come across as what I like to call "Icey"...nothing could shake him in his game....period. It seems to me he's been beaten into submission by the coach, management AND the BOO BIRDS! I know he gets paid alot of $$, please leave that out of it. However, I could see and hear the disappointment that first time he started getting booed in ARCO...and it hasn't stopped. The fact that he wasn't even in the plans to take the last shot last night basically sums it up. "He's just here"...if nothing else that is his strongest asset, and we're not even using him for his strengths anymore.
I am with you...I will find somewhere to watch the game tonight, my son and I will both have on our BIBBY jerseys....give em hell Mike!

yea its too bad we dont have a coach or he would do things like most coaches do and try to get Bibby a 1st possesion double screen wide open shot to try and get him going. Or actually run plays for him.


but this would all involve having a coach. :o
 
I think that it is B as well.

I was going to post this is the Hornets game thread for today, but it is not up yet, so I'll put it here.

I think tonight has a very good chance of being Mike's last game as a King. Many of you will be happy. I, for one, will be sincerely disappointed and sad.
I know that I am talking like he is already gone, but I just can't shake the feeling that this it. His qoute only helps to confirm that to me. In all the years that I have watched Bibby (including his AZ days) I have NEVER seen him like this. I think he knows it too. We also have a history of trading on the road. The all star beak also gives plenty of time to get physicals done.

Because of that, I hope that he has amazing game tonight and of course that we win. Most of all, I would like for him to go out on some semblance of a high note for us.

So just maybe, those of you who do not like him, or just want him traded "for the benefit of the team," and those of you who a pulling for us to lose, can cheer for your team and him tonight. Maybe we can remember what he has done for us in the past, and just for old times sake, root for him (all of them) to do well.

Maybe I am wrong. I hope I am. BU\ut if not, he is the last, in my mind, of one of the greatest teams. At worst, it was a tream that gave many of us wonderful games and memories.

I know that it is sappy, but I think this could be it for him. Tonight I'll be cheering for the Kings, as usual, but with an extra cheer for him.

IF it is his last game, then i wish him nothing but luck wherever he lands. this season and what he does in the future will never alter what he's done for us in the past, and he will always be thought of fondly in my mind.

but, like the others (peja, webber, doug, vlade, bobby, hedo, and scott)...it'll always be a bitter pill. i want those guys to win one, wherever they end up.
 
And what is that supposed to mean??:confused: That is one of the oddest responses I've seen a player give.

I thought it was a fairly clear questioning of the coaching decision. "I'm here, but if the coach doesn't use me correctly, don't look at me. Nothing I could do. Talk to the little guy."
 
I thought it was a fairly clear questioning of the coaching decision. "I'm here, but if the coach doesn't use me correctly, don't look at me. Nothing I could do. Talk to the little guy."

Yeah, I don't really know what answer that reporter was expecting him to say. It seemed like Muss conceived a bad play, which Ron executed badly. What is he supposed to do, blame his coach and teammate? Try to pretend that it was a good play, even though nobody would believe it?

Had I been in his position, I'm not sure what I might have thought up as a quick reply to that question, but it might not have been very different.
 
Way to be a team player, Mike.


Would you have rather he'd said "Yeah well I'm glad he didn't give me the ball, I really don't think I'm good enough to take big shots"?

No matter what Mike says or does, somebody always has something to say about him. The one thing I will enjoy if he's traded is at least there won't be any more sly remarks made about him.

That's not a dig at you, either, nbrans.


:)
 
Bibby thread

Sorry to chime in late, but I agree with "B" and Bricklayer.

I just have no faith in Musselman--no matter what he is doing!

Annie.
 
Let me just add in here BTW I voted "no" on that poll yesterday. Thought it was a reasonable end of the game play, if you even want to call it a ply. Ronw as unquiestionably the man last night, so get him the ball, let him make something happen. Know why Mike is throwing up his hands -- his role, he has confidence there etc. But given the game Ron was playing it was NOT an obviously bad move. In fact if anyone but Ron had gotten that final attempt we all would have been screaming at Muss for that too.
 
Would you have rather he'd said "Yeah well I'm glad he didn't give me the ball, I really don't think I'm good enough to take big shots"?

How about "Ron has hit some big shots for us this season and he was on fire, so coach drew a play for him."
 
That last in regulation-time play was okay for me. I'd certainly expect the play to be for Ron in that game. I just tend to agree that maybe it should have started in Bibby's hands.

The possession of Ron's that totally blew me away was the one where he just stayed in one place and dribbled, and dribbled, and dribbled and dribbled like he forgot there was such a thing as a shot clock! He never even glanced at the clock. :eek: :confused: That was bizarre to me. What daydream do you think was going on there? ;)
 
Bibby's comment reeked of unhappiness. He probably thinks he's on the way out. Think about it...

1.He hears he's being shopped around
2.All his previous teamates have been shipped off
3. He's been boo'd relatively harshly
4.He's playing like garbage

Wouldn't you be down too? I mean if you had one bad season and all of a sudden you were being shopped around that would just reek of no loyalty. But his play on the court has been one that lacks passion and fire. Muss was right to put the ball in the hands of Artest. Bibby needs to get his butt in gear. He's the first person to say "It's a business" so act like it. But there's a part of me that feels bad for the situation he's in.
 
Bibby's comment reeked of unhappiness. He probably thinks he's on the way out. Think about it...

1.He hears he's being shopped around
2.All his previous teamates have been shipped off
3. He's been boo'd relatively harshly
4.He's playing like garbage

Wouldn't you be down too? I mean if you had one bad season and all of a sudden you were being shopped around that would just reek of no loyalty. But his play on the court has been one that lacks passion and fire. Muss was right to put the ball in the hands of Artest. Bibby needs to get his butt in gear. He's the first person to say "It's a business" so act like it. But there's a part of me that feels bad for the situation he's in.

Or he could pull a Jason Kidd and go bonkers filling up the stat sheet in taking it as a personal challenge to make himself worth keeping....
 
FYI...

I didn't read the sports section of my Bee this morning since I had already visited the website and got the sports stories I wanted.

I just opened to section C, intending to take one last glance before intending to throw it away...

I couldn't believe the original headline (in the early edition) attached to the story above. I just scanned it so you can see for yourself:















Beeheadline.jpg
 
FYI...

I didn't read the sports section of my Bee this morning since I had already visited the website and got the sports stories I wanted.

I just opened to section C, intending to take one last glance before intending to throw it away...

I couldn't believe the original headline (in the early edition) attached to the story above. I just scanned it so you can see for yourself:















Beeheadline.jpg



That is a low blow
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The Bee is officialy garbage now. If they weren't before, this makes it official.
 
That was my first thought, too... I will give them credit, however. It only hit out of town in the early editions before someone came to their senses.
 
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