Are we forced to trade peja now?

[SacTownKid]

Peja is as good as gone. Whether for Ron Artest or not, this guy can't stay. No turning back now.

 

[vj9999]

I don't want us to get shafted, but I can easily see it happen if the deal goes through. Artest is still the player he always was, but his pricetag is not just on his talent. His pricetag just dropped drastically today and if he screws up anything for us we will have even harder time unloading him than Pacers do.

 

[Bricklayer]

I don't want us to get shafted, but I can easily see it happen if the deal goes through. Artest is still the player he always was, but his pricetag is not just on his talent. His pricetag just dropped drastically today and if he screws up anything for us we will have even harder time unloading him than Pacers do.

There's just so little to lose at this point. A 17-24 team with all kinds of underacheiving going on and playoff hopes fading. Only 2 years remaining on his deal too. He could hurt us, but there isn't much going on right now for him to tear down or destroy.

 

[Mr. S£im Citrus]

Man and you call yourself a Kings fan?

I don't think Bodiroga4C's ever called himself a "Kings" fan...

 

[piksi]

I don't think Bodiroga4C's ever called himself a "Kings" fan...

that would be correct

 

[chelle]

There's just so little to lose at this point. A 17-24 team with all kinds of underacheiving going on and playoff hopes fading. Only 2 years remaining on his deal too. He could hurt us, but there isn't much going on right now for him to tear down or destroy.

I can't really argue with what you are saying. We really are hurting from a talent standpoint. I guess my main issue is that I would morally have trouble cheering for him. I have not had that issue with a player on the Kings before. Doesn't character eventually have to figure in somewhere? I also think that at this point Peja has a higher trade vlaue that Artest.

 

[SacTownKid]

There's just so little to lose at this point. A 17-24 team with all kinds of underacheiving going on and playoff hopes fading. Only 2 years remaining on his deal too. He could hurt us, but there isn't much going on right now for him to tear down or destroy.

Somewhat true.

And we've at least got Bonzi to kick his *** if he gets out of line!

 

[DocHolliday]

I have an idea for a Peja's next charity event. Pejan boxes Ron Artest charitabox, or Bonzi fights Artest. At least Bonzi and Artest would be a good fight.

 

[vj9999]

I have an idea for a Peja's next charity event. Pejan boxes Ron Artest charitabox, or Bonzi fights Artest. At least Bonzi and Artest would be a good fight.

And have DC and Rick FOx be MCs

Pitch the idea to Fox. They would do it

 

[DocHolliday]

And have DC and Rick FOx be MCs

Pitch the idea to Fox. They would do it

I love it. lol.

 

[love_them_kings]

There's just so little to lose at this point. A 17-24 team with all kinds of underacheiving going on and playoff hopes fading. Only 2 years remaining on his deal too. He could hurt us, but there isn't much going on right now for him to tear down or destroy.

And that's kind of where I'm at. And, at this point, the damage has been done. I wasn't for the trade initially because I feel like Artest is too much of a loose canon. But, at this point I almost hope it goes through because I just can't see Peja staying here & playing after all that's happened today. As you pointed out, a jump is a lot less scary when you don't have far to fall, and at this point, we don't have far to fall.

 

[quick dog]

Somewhat true. And we've at least got Bonzi to kick his *** if he gets out of line!

If someone decides to kick Ron Artest's butt, they had better bring their lunch. It might take a while.

 

[Entity]

im pretty sure hes not going to be a very happy man...... has artest managed to ruin yet another relationship? will peja demand a trade now?

I sure hope so.

 

[LakerN49erChick05]

His agent said you're crazy if you think you're going to see Peja in a Kings uniform again. This trade will go down tomorrow after the Maloofs and Petrie meet with him Artest tomorrow. That's my prediction.

on nba fastbreak, bucher made it seem optimistic that the trade was gonna happen

 

[DocHolliday]

on nba fastbreak, bucher made it seem optimistic that the trade was gonna happen

I agree with Bucher. And, we all know my opinion matters in the grand scheme of things.

 

[VF21]

You know, Doc, I respect your opinion although I may not always agree with it. Ric Bucher, on the other hand, is still an idiot.

 

[DocHolliday]

So, is Peter Vescey right?? He was right about this one though.

 

[piksi]

So, is Peter Vescey right?? He was right about this one though.

most definitely and him being right is just the theory of big numbers. If you start 100000 rumors - chances are that one of them turns out to be true

 

[DocHolliday]

most definitely and him being right is just the theory of big numbers. If you start 100000 rumors - chances are that one of them turns out to be true

My point is that in this case most stuff coming about this scenario has been true.

 

[Evenstar]

3 team deal ...Bonzi to Indiana, Artest to the Clippers, and Maggette to the Kings ....or Peja to Indiana, Artest to the Clippers, and Maggette to the Kings...

Maggette is a 20 point scorer who's contract is not that bad. He also gets to the line more than anyone on our team. Bonzi is a free agent and Peja been inconsistent/injured throughout the season. Peja does deserve to go where he's wanted. The only thing bad about these trades is that Ron Artest gets to go to LA.

i'd do that trade in a second

 

[kennadog]

i'd do that trade in a second

Waaayyy better than getting stuck with Artest. I'd do it too.

 

[DocHolliday]

Bed time for me, while visions of Ron Artest dance in my head. Maggette wouldn't be bad if you're cool with Garcia and Corliss playing the 3 spot for a while, and gettinga guy who's ankle is uncertain.

 

[Bricklayer]

Waaayyy better than getting stuck with Artest. I'd do it too.

Unfortunately has none of the upside of the Artest deal -- remember the subtext is that we are finally getting a guy to turn aroudn the defense. Without which, BTW, we can never be good again. And there must be something wrong with that foot for Indiana not to just go for Maggette straight up.

Would I still do it? If the foot will be ok one day, sure. Peja has to be moved now and that would be a good save. But Maggette isn't going to change anything radically for us. Not enough shots for him as we're currently constructed, and he isn't going to have much impact in other areas.

 

[kennadog]

Unfortunately has none of the upside of the Artest deal -- remember the subtext is that we are finally getting a guy to turn aroudn the defense. Without which, BTW, we can never be good again. And there must be something wrong with that foot for Indiana not to just go for Maggette straight up.

Would I still do it? If the foot will be ok one day, sure. Peja has to be moved now and that would be a good save. But Maggette isn't going to change anything radically for us. Not enough shots for him as we're currently constructed, and he isn't going to have much impact in other areas.

Is one guy, even Artest really going to make this team that much better? I'd rather go for a complete rebuild and without Artest.

 

[Stojakovic]

I think a trade as of now is inevitable. Peja may have said it best in his conversation with Vlade when he said that both parties are ready to move on. Peja Stojakovic is a closed chapter in the history of the Sacramento Kings.

 

[kennadog]

I think a trade as of now is inevitable. Peja may have said it best in his conversation with Vlade when he said that both parties are ready to move on. Peja Stojakovic is a closed chapter in the history of the Sacramento Kings.

Oh I agree a trade has to be made and I figured the Kings would have to trade Pedja before Feb 23. However, I just really did not want it to be for Artest. And I'm really sorry that Pedja is the latest victim of the Artest drama.

 

[HndsmCelt]

Is one guy, even Artest really going to make this team that much better? I'd rather go for a complete rebuild and without Artest.

The right guy sure... and the kicker here was that Artest COULD be that guy: An imensly tallented palyer who can score, defend, and change the entire focus of the defense freeing up his teammates... WHEN he palys. A contrite and motivated Artest was a best case scenario. As tempting as it is to say that a disgruntled Artest is a worse case scenario I am not sure this team can get significantly worse, and definatly watching Pedja walk at the end of the season is an unapetizing thought... a few months of rep rehab in Sac would have made Artest MUCH more tradeable.

 

[Bricklayer]

Is one guy, even Artest really going to make this team that much better? I'd rather go for a complete rebuild and without Artest.

If Doug Christie, who was a fraction of the player that Artest is, could infuse the whole team with defense, so could Artest. Now enough to matter? Who knows. But this team is barreling toward complete rebuild right now wiht multiple FAs (one of them angry) and vets with midlevel contracts stacked all over the place. You either save it NOW, or not at all. Artest is an attempt at a save. A high risk high reward sort of move. But agian, given where we are, what we are giving up, not THAT high of a risk. We've been depressed for months over Peja's declining trade value. There is not an Artest level talent in the league that we can get so cheaply.

 

[GoGoGadget]

If there is ever a time, or a team, where taking a risk on Artest is an appropriate option, this is it.

So very little to lose at this point.

 

[JJ22L]

If Doug Christie, who was a fraction of the player that Artest is, could infuse the whole team with defense, so could Artest. Now enough to matter? Who knows. But this team is barreling toward complete rebuild right now wiht multiple FAs (one of them angry) and vets with midlevel contracts stacked all over the place. You either save it NOW, or not at all. Artest is an attempt at a save. A high risk high reward sort of move. But agian, given where we are, what we are giving up, not THAT high of a risk. We've been depressed for months over Peja's declining trade value. There is not an Artest level talent in the league that we can get so cheaply.

Again Brick, i think your right on here. Its too late to renig on this...the wound has been opened..the media/kings/artests agent/artest keep throwing salt in it. The deal has to be done...i dont believe there is any other way to stop the bleeding.