And with the #23 pick in the 2009 Draft, the Kings select....

[ockingsfan]

who are you hoping will realistically fall to the kings at the #23 pick (from Houston)?

If the kings get Blake Griffin with the #1 pick, I'm hoping a good point guard slides to us at #23...

my wish list is:

#1 Jrue Holiday
#2 Johnny Flynn
#3 Eric Maynor

Who are you guys hoping REALISTICALLY falls to us at #23?

 

[Jespher]

BJ Mullens is probably a stretch, but wouldn't that be cool.

 

[netseee]

Yeah, if possible, I want to pick BJ Mullens

 

[vikinginferno]

Depending on who we get with our first pick, I would be extremely happy with Teague, Holiday, Tyreke Evans, Derozan, Curry, Brackins, Lawson, or Flynn. I would be content with Terence Williams, BJ Mullens, Maynor, or Blair.

 

[HighTopKicks]

Few if any of the better pg's will fall to #23.

Calathes is a younger Garcia. A SG in size who has handles. But, Cisco is a better 3pt shooter and defender, so Calathes is a unnecessary duplication.

Mills is a undersize PG that can penetrate but is not a serious threat to finish at the rim.

Holiday is a defensive force with size & athleticism but unproven offensive skills. But, if Holiday were to fall to 23, look for him to got back to school and try again in 2010.

Maynor would be a steal at 23, an all around PG with size.

Brackins & Daye are the only bigs of interest.

Your probably not going to find a starting PG outside of the top 15. So, if that's what your looking for at 23, be prepared for another year of Beno.

 

[Vlade4GM]

I'm not a big Daye fan and I can't for the life of me understand why he'd stay in the draft, but his upside is way too good to not go after him in the late first round.

 

[ivan_fiba]

With The #23? eric maynor

ill take maynor a true 6-3 point guard. Hes tough plays with great poise very clutch. Creates with either hands shoots well very crafty passes you need to see him play to see what i mean not just mixtapes

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDuf1vuhM5Q

 

[ivan_fiba]

hopefully he slides to us

 

[fryxi]

how about hansbrough if we're thinking we wont get a good PG at 23 might as well go big.

 

[KingsDyNasty34]

Wow I like what I see in that young fellow

 

[Mr. S£im Citrus]

If Hansbrough is still there at #23, he will most likely still be there at #31.

 

[CaminoChaos]

NBAdraft.net has us taking Hansburough.

 

[allrightythen]

You always take the best available and all that, but who I would prefer depends largely on who we select at the top of the draft. If we end up with Jennings or Rubio at the top I'd prefer that the best available not be a PG.

That said I would love to see Lawson still on the board at 23. I would not be upset if Maynor, Flynn, Mills, Holiday, or Collison were there and we took one of them (assuming of course we hadn't previously drafted a PG). I haven't done much looking into which bigs might still be around then. I thought Mullens was supposed to be gone by then so I guess he could be an option if he fell.

 

[One and Done]

I like Maynor, but have a feeling that he'll be gone by the late teens (unless his workouts hurt his stock). He's a true point who's only knock is body mass & defense - on that note, Petrie might trade up!

 

[TTown Kings]

Holiday is a defensive force with size & athleticism but unproven offensive skills. But, if Holiday were to fall to 23, look for him to got back to school and try again in 2010.

How does that work.? Once you declare and are drafted there is no going back. I would assume that you mean, if he not forecasted to be a lottery pick he will pull out by the deadline before the draft right?

 

[PurpleHaze]

I've been on the Eric Maynor bandwagon for some time - even before the NCAA Final Four tournament. Unfortunately, most of the mock drafts I've seen have him going around 15-20, so falling to 23 might be a big gift to the Kings. Now, if Kings were to not get the #1 overall pick and traded down for more selections then Maynor becomes a much more live possibility.

 

[KingsDyNasty34]

Well I just hope we can land a pretty solid pg with the 23 pick , and hopefully Maynor just happens to slip

 

[JJ_Evans]

Where is Jeff Teague penciled in to go? Will he last til 23?

 

[Hallama]

Three ways to go:

1) The Tayshaun Prince: solid college career guys like Sam Young, Terence Williams, etc. Played for the highest level colleges and had successful careers. Not as flashy as some younger or international players, but translate to effective NBA pros.

2) The "I can't believe he fell this far" guy: This could be DeJaun Blair, one of the many PGs Lawson, Teague, or Flynn or a raw big like BJ Mullens.

3) The Gerald Wallace: young, athletic, brimming with potential but haven't had proven results. James Johnson comes to mind.

 

[Capt. Factorial]

How does that work.? Once you declare and are drafted there is no going back. I would assume that you mean, if he not forecasted to be a lottery pick he will pull out by the deadline before the draft right?

Yes, I think that was just sloppy wording. Pulling out before the deadline is what was meant.

 

[bajaden]

Point guards that will or might be available at 23 would be:

Collison-Probably will be.
Mills- Probably will be.
Calathes- Probably will be.
Toney Douglas- Will be.
Holiday- Probably, could be.
Maynor- Could be.
Flynn- Nope
Lawson- Nope
Evan's- Real tiny outside chance.
Curry- No chance in hell
Teague- Ditto

Some of these guys will probably be available at 31 as well.

There's a player that may be there at 23 that for some reason no one seems to mention. Thats Chase Budinger. This is very talented guy that I believe will be a better NBA player than he was a college player. He's a very good outside shooter with great form on his shot. He drives to the basket well. He has a good handle, and he's extremely athletic. The dude has a 40" vertical. The only knock on him is that he seemed to underacheive based on his talent level. That he wasn't aggresive enough, or seemed to disappear at times.

I think it had more to do with the system he was playing in than it had to do with him. No one has ever denyed his talent. I think playing in a system where he's free to use all of his abilities will show him to be a very good player. He also has the athleticism to be a good defensive player. Something the Kings need. He's also an unselfish player (perhaps too unselfish).

 

[MassachusettsKingsFan]

Curry has a super slight chance of dropping .. If he falls past 15 I would like us to try and trade up and grab him ... I love his game - I really see him as the point guard version of Brandon Roy.

 

[kennadog]

Yes, I think that was just sloppy wording. Pulling out before the deadline is what was meant.

Actually, I think you can also only preserve your college eligibility, if you don't hire an agent. Correct?

 

[Capt. Factorial]

Actually, I think you can also only preserve your college eligibility, if you don't hire an agent. Correct?

Yes, that's right. Preserving college eligibility and staying in the draft are technically different. I can't think of any instances where a player hired an agent (ending their NCAA eligibility) and then pulled out of the draft anyway, but this would be possible.

 

[Capt. Factorial]

Point guards that will or might be available at 23 would be:

Evans- Real tiny outside chance.

I pretty much agree with your assessment except for Evans. I would say no chance at 23.

There's a player that may be there at 23 that for some reason no one seems to mention. Thats Chase Budinger. This is very talented guy that I believe will be a better NBA player than he was a college player. He's a very good outside shooter with great form on his shot. He drives to the basket well. He has a good handle, and he's extremely athletic. The dude has a 40" vertical. The only knock on him is that he seemed to underacheive based on his talent level. That he wasn't aggresive enough, or seemed to disappear at times.

I'm not sure if it was finally corrected, but the other knock on Budinger is that he was a terrible defender. I remember hearing that Arizona had to run a specially-designed defense his freshman year to cover for him. He's a good shooter but I'd like him better at 31.

 

[Sptsjunkie]

Point guards that will or might be available at 23 would be:

Collison-Probably will be.
Mills- Probably will be.
Calathes- Probably will be.
Toney Douglas- Will be.
Holiday- Probably, could be.
Maynor- Could be.
Flynn- Nope
Lawson- Nope
Evan's- Real tiny outside chance.
Curry- No chance in hell
Teague- Ditto

I agree with most of this but would guess Evan's is definitley gone and Flynn has a chance of still being there. Also, Holliday will probably go back to UCLA if he doesn't have a promise of being picked higher than 23.

 

[bajaden]

I agree with most of this but would guess Evan's is definitley gone and Flynn has a chance of still being there. Also, Holliday will probably go back to UCLA if he doesn't have a promise of being picked higher than 23.

Yeah, I almost added that about Holliday. The thing about Evans is that there's real doubt about what he is. Is he a true pt or is he another one of those tweeners. I personally think he can play the pt, but the doubt in some peoples minds may cause him to slip. I would love for Flynn to be there, but I really doubt it.

My dark horse to slip in this draft is Clark. I'm just going on gut feelings here. I thought that DeRozen might slip, but his late play probably saved him.

 

[Sptsjunkie]

Yeah, I almost added that about Holliday. The thing about Evans is that there's real doubt about what he is. Is he a true pt or is he another one of those tweeners. I personally think he can play the pt, but the doubt in some peoples minds may cause him to slip. I would love for Flynn to be there, but I really doubt it.

My dark horse to slip in this draft is Clark. I'm just going on gut feelings here. I thought that DeRozen might slip, but his late play probably saved him.

With Evans, this is such a crapshoot of a draft, that I don't think the tweener red flags will hurt him that much. Eric Gordon went #8 last season and that was a much deeper draft. I do fear you're right about Flynn though. And I'll bet you are right that someone slips to us. This is such an odd draft with so many flawed players I could see something odd happening. Although, I'm not holding my breath for Clark considering how few good bigs are in this years draft. I think we are more likely to see a PG/combo guard slip.

 

[HighTopKicks]

Yes, I think that was just sloppy wording. Pulling out before the deadline is what was meant.

Thank you Capt. and you are correct. After the individual tryouts, if Holiday doesn't get any assurances that he would go higher, I can see him going back to school.

The rumor that I heard was that he wasn't happy the the restrictions put on him by the coach and that was why he was entering the draft. But, it sounded like a excuse and that he really was doing it for the money.

 

[Sptsjunkie]

The rumor that I heard was that he wasn't happy the the restrictions put on him by the coach and that was why he was entering the draft. But, it sounded like a excuse and that he really was doing it for the money.

I think the actual rumor is true. I'm a UCLA fan and watched a lot of the games. UCLA actually stiffled his growth this season. Now next year if he starts at PG it may be different, but he looked bad last season and I wouldn't be suprised if he blamed Howland regardless of whether it was Howland's fault or not.