Say and DO are completely different. I guarantee Dumars doesn't let Billups get away for NOTHING
Amir Johnson/Andre Blatche
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Say and DO are completely different. I guarantee Dumars doesn't let Billups get away for NOTHING
I agree, I think somewhere in the 3.5 - 4.5 million range would probably do it, because that means the Pistons would be spending 7-9 million on the kid with the luxury taxes. I think a 3-4 year 12-15 million dollar contract would probably get it done....just make sure you call on July 1st, 12:01 am
Exactly, offer him like 4 million dollars for 3-4 years. That means he would cost them like 8 million with the tax. I don't really know if they would match it but if they did, hopefully they'd do it soon and we'd be able to go after Andray Blatche. Also might have Terry Porter so I'm sure Joe D. and Flip wouldn't want to keep their friend waiting and put him in a bad position... so we would probably know ASAP. Joe Dumars and Flip are classy guys IMO. And again, if they match then we need to grab Andray Blatche. He's a lot less proven than Amir and he doesn't have the skills but he's 6'11'' and he can learn. He had some pretty good games too.
To the LT points...I can envision Joe using the 26th pick in the draft as bait to deal away Nazr Mohammed's salary. That's going to be a definite goal of his.
IMO, Joe let Ben go in order to keep his current pieces. He's either going to be allowed to keep them or he's going to quit. He wouldn't let his owner (one of the richest men on earth) hamstring him like that. I also don't think Davidson would disrespect Dumars that way.
IMO, Joe let Ben go in order to keep his current pieces. He's either going to be allowed to keep them or he's going to quit. He wouldn't let his owner (one of the richest men on earth) hamstring him like that. I also don't think Davidson would disrespect Dumars that way.
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Yeah, that's what I was thinking. Better one year than four.
It's a good faith concession Joe D is probably going to make to Mr. D in order for him to allow Dumars to break the bank on Amir, Chauncey and possibly C-Webb.
Davidson is hardly poor. He can buy out Mark Cuban several times over. He also knows he has an extremely profitable NBA franchise that was in the toilet before Dumars took over. Again, he's not stupid.
The fact Davidson got snubbed from the NBA hall of fame might also play into his decision to go after another ring immediately.
Amir is Joe's boy. He's Joe's chance to prove he's not as bad in the draft as Darko's made him out to be. Joe is going to keep him with every resource he has.
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CaminoChaos
Bench
I like the idea of getting these guys but Miller, SAR and K9 are under long term contracts. I cant see Petrie using the full MLE on them. If we trade one of them then go for it, but I don't see them getting traded with those contracts.
Dude, your choice is hang on to the garbage that is SAR/Miller/Thomas or spend some money and go out and get some real big men. That is the bottom line.
CaminoChaos
Bench
Hey, I don't like it as much as you do but Petrie won't spend another $5 million on a player that will probably be 3rd string. Let's face it Miller, SAR or K9 are unfortunately going to start as long as they are on the roster.
Miller might because he's untradable but SAR can be moved and the next coach WILL NOT put up with Thomas' BS. He should just be bought out. But Amir/Blatche would start over Thomas because they're better than he and SAR. Hell I'd be willing to bet Justin gets more PT than Kenny next year. Because he blocks shots and Kenny sucks.
CaminoChaos
Bench
Can't disagree with that.
If our new coach can't find a way to make KT sit down (or leave), I'm going to be sorely disappointed.
CaminoChaos
Bench
If you've got $23.8M to spare, give the Maloofs a call and I'm sure they'd be happy to work it out. I'm a little short right now, myself.
I do agree, though. I'd love to see him bought out, and a discount could probably be arranged. With Justin coming along, he's worth less than zero to us.
nbrans
All-Star
One thing about Kenny Thomas to keep in mind is that this is technically a contract year -- he has an ETO after this season. There's a possibility that he could be motivated to rebuild his value for his last contract.
In other words, he might not play like he's comatose like he has these past two seasons.
In other words, he might not play like he's comatose like he has these past two seasons.
Vlade4GM
All-Star
but who do we not get or have to cut because he's hogging up a roster spot? A lot of money now, but maybe in the end it pays off.
Vlade4GM
All-Star
You really believe there is a team out there willing to give a 6-6 PF a better contract than he already has?
After getting a draft pick and re-signing Justin and Ronnie, we have 12 guys on the roster and very little money left. That leaves us with room for 3 guys, assuming we're wanting to keep 3 on the inactive list.
So KT's not really costing us an important roster spot. We could just move him into Potapenko's inactive list slot, and be little the worse for it.
Still, I agree, a buyout would be desirable in every way. Whatever discount could be agreed to would come off our payroll, and we'd get that 15th roster spot back. $23.8M is a lot of money, though, so I can understand why the Maloofs haven't rushed to do it.
CRAP
Please let's deal at least K9 and I can deal with 1 or both of Miller and/or SAR off the bench, but please don't play them together. That is way too slow and we have seen how good Williams can be with Miller and then with SAR.That is a lot of $, so they get around it by starting him if he cries about it enough like he does and then he sits...so in essence he K9 gets scrub minutes, but hears his name being called for the Starting 5.
I wish we could just stop these mind games and then agree to a lower salary then we owe him. He'll love to get the $ prepaid to him and then he can either retire which he probably will do anyways, or take quite a cut to play somewhere in the NBA, it he's even that lucky.
Who cares that both these guys are 6' 9", they are athletic and play bigger then their size. We would have quite the reverse of the crap we have had to endure with SAR/K9/Miller...we'd actually have a dynamic/young/quick group in our front court for a change. Then we just need a good young PG and we are close to having our rebuild in place. Any kind of $ should be spent on bettering our 4/5, we can always better our PG position and our 2/3 are good now. Also Mike had a bad year, so hopefully he will have a better one with us, if he isn't traded this offseason.
Oh how blessed would that be, PRODUCTION for this year AND Salary relief.
The problem with buying out Kenny is that in 2 years he's moveable as an expiring. IF you buy him out, you can't trade him. Plus, he's proven that he CAN produce at a reasonable level, but for whatever reason hasn't with us recently. There's no point in buying someone out who could POTENTIAL be semi-productive. If you're paying him, make him earn it.
I'm not okay with playing Kenny when you could be playing Amir Johnson, Andre Blatche, or Justin Williams. Kenny's attitude and skillset has drastically declined, he sucks. Either put him on the inactive list all year and tell him to go home so he gets so mad he opts out or buy him out.
