Am i reading this right for Ben? 50% from 3?

One of the advantages of being too scared to shoot was that while Ben was being useless he didn't pile up many negative numbers.
 
When has Ben ever become too scared to shoot? If anything, the only fair criticism of Ben should be his confidence, IQ, and ball handling.

He's never been scared to shoot. Any time he's open, he puts the shot up.

I'll continue to say it over, and over again. Ben needs more shots.

You don't give him 5shots vs. the Clippers, then the next night give him 8, then the third night 3. That's inconsistency, and I've said it time and time again.
How the hell can you expect Ben to shoot the ball consistently, when he's not even getting the ball consistently? That's how you tear up young players. You have to allow them to play through the struggles, and actually give them enough shots to even qualify. Give them a rhythm.

We've finally seen slowly started to see that this season. Even when he's not getting his shots, he's still getting to touch the ball.

Ben has been playing amazing ball lately, and I hope it continues.
 
Has anyone noticed that Ben's best games usually occur with no DMC.

I think Ben becomes gun shy when he knows DMC needs the ball. He defers to DMC and thus disappears.

Ben needs to keep his confidence when he is the 4th or 5th option too. Not only when he is the 2nd or 3rd option.
 
Has anyone noticed that Ben's best games usually occur with no DMC.

I think Ben becomes gun shy when he knows DMC needs the ball. He defers to DMC and thus disappears.

Ben needs to keep his confidence when he is the 4th or 5th option too. Not only when he is the 2nd or 3rd option.
I've pointed this out earlier in the season.

It has more to do with the fact that when Cuz is on the floor, he doesn't pass the ball very much at all. He has such a high usage, that he takes away looks from his teammates.

We saw this last year, when Cuz was out. Ben tore it up. The reason why? The team was actually giving him the ball, and even letting him have opportunities to be more aggressive. With Cuz on the floor, you restrict his game to be an occasional spot up shooter.

Ben has a much higher ceiling than just a 3&D player, but that's what we're limiting him to..primarily because our best player likes to have the ball most of the time.

You need to give a young player like Ben, a much more consistent role.
It's not the fact that he's a 4th or 5th option, it's the fact that he just doesn't get to see the ball a lot, or at all.
 
Oh, give me a break.

So Cousins is to blame for why Ben can't make a shot when Cuz passes it to him and he's wide open?

Lately, Ben has been money - he's starting his shooting motion even before he gets the ball, and it's right on target - he always seems to wait and hesitate when Cousins passes it to him.

I'm really stretching to figure out how to blame Cuz for that and not be insulting of Ben's manhood.
 
Ben is more involved and while having good shooting nights helps, he is making plays for his teammates too and is therefore way more confident, than at the beginning of the season.

When you only get a limited amount of shots every miss hurts. But thats the problem of every roleplayer, even the great ones like Wes or Green.
So whats really important is that Ben shoots when open, is locked in on defense and moves the ball on offense. Thats what he needs to bring every night and so far he does that.
So basically there is nothing to complain about right now.

Willie on the other hand seems to be almost reluctant to shoot or to make an aggressive move towards the basket.
He picked it up a bit versus the Heat, but it's still a problem.
He is very poised and calm out there, but stays out of the way on offense too much.
 
Ben is more involved and while having good shooting nights helps, he is making plays for his teammates too and is therefore way more confident, than at the beginning of the season.

When you only get a limited amount of shots every miss hurts. But thats the problem of every roleplayer, even the great ones like Wes or Green.
So whats really important is that Ben shoots when open, is locked in on defense and moves the ball on offense. Thats what he needs to bring every night and so far he does that.
So basically there is nothing to complain about right now.

Willie on the other hand seems to be almost reluctant to shoot or to make an aggressive move towards the basket.
He picked it up a bit versus the Heat, but it's still a problem.
He is very poised and calm out there, but stays out of the way on offense too much.
I agree he showed a sweet half hook over a smaller player when he took his time and has shown very decent finishing ability off the pick n roll.
 
Ben is more involved and while having good shooting nights helps, he is making plays for his teammates too and is therefore way more confident, than at the beginning of the season.

When you only get a limited amount of shots every miss hurts. But thats the problem of every roleplayer, even the great ones like Wes or Green.
So whats really important is that Ben shoots when open, is locked in on defense and moves the ball on offense. Thats what he needs to bring every night and so far he does that.
So basically there is nothing to complain about right now.

Willie on the other hand seems to be almost reluctant to shoot or to make an aggressive move towards the basket.
He picked it up a bit versus the Heat, but it's still a problem.
He is very poised and calm out there, but stays out of the way on offense too much.
If our offense hinges on WCS we are in trouble. He can make a career off of put backs for all I care. His value is in the other end. Though he needs to pick other players
 
Has anyone noticed that Ben's best games usually occur with no DMC.

I think Ben becomes gun shy when he knows DMC needs the ball. He defers to DMC and thus disappears.

Ben needs to keep his confidence when he is the 4th or 5th option too. Not only when he is the 2nd or 3rd option.

Might be when you are the 5th option, play 18 minutes a night, told to stand in the corner, and are at risk of getting yanked if you miss a couple of your 3- 4 shots a game, you're just not really part of the game.

He might not be the perfect role player we want him to be, because in reality, he needs a bigger role to be effective. Might not be possible on this team, but it's probably true.
 
I've pointed this out earlier in the season.

It has more to do with the fact that when Cuz is on the floor, he doesn't pass the ball very much at all. He has such a high usage, that he takes away looks from his teammates.

We saw this last year, when Cuz was out. Ben tore it up. The reason why? The team was actually giving him the ball, and even letting him have opportunities to be more aggressive. With Cuz on the floor, you restrict his game to be an occasional spot up shooter.

Ben has a much higher ceiling than just a 3&D player, but that's what we're limiting him to..primarily because our best player likes to have the ball most of the time.

You need to give a young player like Ben, a much more consistent role.
It's not the fact that he's a 4th or 5th option, it's the fact that he just doesn't get to see the ball a lot, or at all.

You could say the same thing for Willie. His usage rate is 10% which means 9 out of 10 offensive possessions someone else ends the possession. Boogie has a higher usage rate than Curry (33%) and the highest of his career, which can be partly justified if his TS% is superior to his teammates.

His TS% is respectable but his usage is a little too high for my liking especially when under-utilizing other players.

Willie 66% TS (10% usage)
Omri 60% TS
Ben 56.7% TS (17% usage)
Boogie 55.2% TS (34.4% usage)
Koufos 54.1% TS
Darren 53.6% TS
Rudy 50.3% TS
Rondo 46.3% TS

If the Kings want to be a team they need more prominent contributions from Willie and Ben and that responsibility falls on them being more assertive and Boogie and Rondo taking more active role to get them involved.

The Kings are going to win by getting better play from Rudy (career 55% TS), Ben, Willie and Marco. The substitutions and coaching and pace are factors but fundamentally these guys just need to be better. Salvaging the season and making playoff push depends on it.

Willie is a decoy in this offense with everyone is keying on Cousins. The lack of attention he gets should be exploited with easy scores. I think he can average 10 PPG easily. If he goes three games in a row like he did recently without even attempting a shot, you have to wonder what the hell is going on.

What can't happen is Boogie monopolizing the ball at a meddling efficiency while trying to carry the team offensively. He has a tendency to do this. No matter how dominant you are you cannot do it yourself. Even if it works in the short-term it doesn't over the long haul.

It makes the team overly predictable and is one of the reasons the Kings are 2nd in the NBA in turnovers to a team that is not even trying to win (76ers), so effectively they are 1st in throwing the ball away among teams that are trying. Given injuries and generosity their record is not a surprise.

I used to complain about Boogie and Tyreke having NO chemistry between them. I haven't seen chemistry between he and Willie either or effort to set him up for easy scores. A veteran needs to throw a rookie a bone every now and again. If there is a valid criticism of Boogie as a player, it has been this lack of reliance and trust he shows in his teammates and tunnel vision as reflected in usage.

Boogie needs ball on most possessions but he doesn't need to try to single handedly slay the dragon. Too often he seems to have this mindset like he doesn't realize he has upgraded talent around him. He sacrifices efficiency when he forces shots. This is next evolution in his game that has stagnated, making the simple play instead of high degree of difficulty one.

Finding balance between pass and shot is frankly challenge for all superior talents. He does a good job on being selective with his 3 ball. He's been less successful when he attacks the rim. Players who go from good to great find this optimal balance and those that do not stay simply good.

If the Kings offense resolves around Rondo-Boogie and Rudy isos with Ben and Willie getting the scraps, they will never realize their potential as a unit. When Boogie becomes true teammate instead of guy who has anointed himself as burden carrier of all results, the team can be legitimate.

This is a long winded way of saying Ben and Willie are pretty good get them the ball. :) And plea to both not to defer too often or let talents go to waste.
 
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Might be when you are the 5th option, play 18 minutes a night, told to stand in the corner, and are at risk of getting yanked if you miss a couple of your 3- 4 shots a game, you're just not really part of the game.

Ever hear of Kevin Martin?
 
Ben is more involved and while having good shooting nights helps, he is making plays for his teammates too and is therefore way more confident, than at the beginning of the season.

When you only get a limited amount of shots every miss hurts. But thats the problem of every roleplayer, even the great ones like Wes or Green.
So whats really important is that Ben shoots when open, is locked in on defense and moves the ball on offense. Thats what he needs to bring every night and so far he does that.
So basically there is nothing to complain about right now.

Willie on the other hand seems to be almost reluctant to shoot or to make an aggressive move towards the basket.
He picked it up a bit versus the Heat, but it's still a problem.
He is very poised and calm out there, but stays out of the way on offense too much.
I agree with you.. but this is something Demarcus and Ben can both work on, and if atleast Ben works on it, he'll be more sucessful. He has to make the shots when our star is doubled, he has to be ready at all times. Look at Lebron, same thing happens on the teams he's on.
 
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Kings guard Ben Mclemore leads all shooting guards in 3-point field goal percentage. And he's ranked 4th in the entire NBA.
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There has to be something wrong with that stat. No offense, Ben.

Well, it's right, but here's where your intuition that something is fishy probably comes through:

There are 95 players qualified for the 3P% leaderboard. Of those 95, Ben is tied for 93rd in attempts with Alec Burks, and ahead of only Kris Humphries. He's 41st among 3P% qualifiers in TS%, and 85th in total points.

So, grain of salt. But he's shooting it really well when he shoots it.

It's interesting, his 3PA/36 is only down a bit from last year, but he is taking a lot more shots within ten feet of the basket this year (43% of his shots vs 34% last year, but now with WORSE success). He's also taking a lot more corner threes (47% of his threes, vs. 37% last year) and he's really knocking those down, at 53%.

(Note, it looks like these numbers don't include today's game.)
 
If our offense hinges on WCS we are in trouble. He can make a career off of put backs for all I care. His value is in the other end. Though he needs to pick other players

Blob already adressed the problem I see with Willie. Of course he will never be a big factor on offense. I'm fine with that.
But often he does everything to avoid taking a shot. And when the clock os running down and Rondo gives you the ball, you have to make a move and don't try to hand off the ball to a guars for a shot clock violation or desperation 3.
All i ask frpm Willie is to take one dribble and shoot a hook shot like he did versus the Lakers and to focus on getting in position for putbacks and lobs.
 
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