Aaron Brooks

[ESP47]

Brooks and Thomas are similar. They also will hopefully never play together. At the very least, having similar PG's run both the bench and starting units will make some of our other pieces interchangeable.... It can make every player familiar with playing along side that type of floor leader.

I'm searching for positives here. I generally agree with you, but I think Brooks TALENT is worth the money spent on him, even if I have always disliked him as a player.

Yeah I know you're just searching for positives. The positive is Brooks is a better backup PG than Jimmer. The problem is that having him on the team will not help us make the playoffs. I don't care how cheap his contract is, I don't want him taking a roster spot because he just doesn't fit. We're filling this team up with guys that aren't going to help us win and are going to linger for a year or two and will push rebuilding back even further. Petrie rebuilt this team so poorly that it'll need to be blown up and rebuilt again. Say hello to the 90's Kings again because here they are.

 

[Kingster]

If I see any IT/Brooks combo at any time, I might just break my remote. This also negates just about any opportunity for Reke to play PG when IT is resting, which is fine, but means we most likely won't see a Reke/MT combo, unless we go with IT or Brooks, MT at the 2 and Reke at SF on occasion, which would suck, which means to me with little possible opportunities for a Reke/MT combo, that MT has now gone from starter to 20-25 mins per night tops, which would also mean imo he won't be happy, is not worth 8M in that role and we need another trade.

I think that is a very fair assumption. All this talk about Tyreke at pg, looks like just that. Talk. Looks more and more that it's the 2 or nada for Tyreke. Also, makes Thornton at the 2 even more improbable as a starter. And like you infer, that could easily mean Thornton is the guy to go.

 

[HereWeBoogie]

the kings need to add a big man desperately. if Chuck Hayes has to be in the rotation, we get killed down low

 

[Hoovtrain]

i agree with everything FunkyKingston said

FK =best poster on KF.

 

[Tetsujin]

the kings need to add a big man desperately. if Chuck Hayes has to be in the rotation, we get killed down low

Not necessarily, Hayes's one redeeming feature is that he is one of the best post defenders in the league. As for everything else, that may be another story.

 

[HighFlyingMonkey]

Yay, another gunner. Just what the doctor ordered. This HAS to mean another move, right?

Amnesty Salmons
trade Thornton, Outlaw, Jimmer for Iggy
Resign Twill

IT/Brooks
Evans/Twill
Iggy/Johnson
Throb/JT
Cousins/Hayes

Aw who am I kidding

 

[HereWeBoogie]

And like you infer, that could easily mean Thornton is the guy to go.

unfortunately its looking like it. looks like IF Petrie has a trade coming, its probably thornton. which kind of makes sense because, Thornton is probably one of the only players on this team that other teams would want

 

[nebs]

Grant's show on in 10 minutes lol. Should be fun to hear him gloat about how the Maloofs are spending money. I do like the pickup though as I've always kind of liked Brooks. Hopefully another trade will happen to clear things up.

 

[Entity]

I am expecting a Trade involving Jimmer, Garcia, Salmons for 1 or 2 players. Jimmer you get young shooter finding his way. Garcia you get expiring. Salmons you get vet Wing man and good defender. Probably nobody super great but just to clear out some SF. Maybe get back a SF and a C.

 

[SacTownKid]

the kings need to add a big man desperately. if Chuck Hayes has to be in the rotation, we get killed down low

He's probably the only thing on this team capable of not getting you killed down low. All these people thinking JT can play C is just funny. Good luck with that.

 

[Tetsujin]

I am expecting a Trade involving Jimmer, Garcia, Salmons for 1 or 2 players. Jimmer you get young shooter finding his way. Garcia you get expiring. Salmons you get vet Wing man and good defender. Probably nobody super great but just to clear out some SF. Maybe get back a SF and a C.

Iggy Hawes. Kings fans simultaneous hold parade and burn down PBP in celebration/disgust.

 

[HereWeBoogie]

He's probably the only thing on this team capable of not getting you killed down low. All these people thinking JT can play C is just funny. Good luck with that.

did you watch the games last year? hes 6'6" people just shoot right over him. hes slow too. and he cant jump. watch how bad they get out-rebounded when hes out there. the guy cant jump 4" off the ground

 

[marsh]

Iggy Hawes. Kings fans simultaneous hold parade and burn down PVP in celebration/disgust.

lmao

 

[HereWeBoogie]

does Utah have any players we could use? maybe they will take Jimmer to sell tickets.

 

[theclash4u5]

Ryan Wolstat ‏@WolstatSun
Last thing about Sac because I feel bad for their awesome fans, but the organization does know there is only one ball right?

lol....

 

[Kingster]

With only one pg on this team (IT), the Kings definitely needed another. Brooks can do the job. I'm not going to make a judgement about who starts or gets more minutes of the two. Regardless, the two of the them together can do a very good job at the point. Unless it's bizzaroworld squared, this means that Kings are going to have to go with a big 2 guard. That means Tyreke, maybe Salmons, T-Will, and/or Mr. X. Unlike others, I think the Kings are very aware of the deficiences of playing two smaller players in the backcourt. Reynolds has said as much. The addition of Johnson offsets some of the size disadvantage at the 1. The insertion of Tyreke, Salmons, or Mr. X at the 2 will also offset the size disadvantage at the 1. Thornton does not in any way make sense at the 2 as a starter with a pg duo of IT and Brooks.

If the Kings do make one more trade, I think it could easily be a big outside shooting 2-guard.

 

[Bricklayer]

Anyone who thinks Brooks is starting over Thomas .. that is an absurd thought.

I do not think that word means what you think it means...

 

[Tetsujin]

does Utah have any players we could use? maybe they will take Jimmer to sell tickets.

I suppose there's Kanter but he's got a unibrow.

 

[hrdboild]

I can't be the only one that would have greatly preferred that the Kings resign Terrance Williams rather than sign Brooks. And given that they are now at the cap with a full roster I have to believe that shuts the door on bringing TWill back unless some spots are opened up via a trade, which seems very unlikely at this point.

I'll go one step further, I would have made re-signing Terrence Williams a priority over re-signing Jason Thompson or trading for James Johnson. He's one guy who actually does fit with the other personnel on our team and we've more or less told him he's not wanted here.

But at least bring in mediocre pieces that fill a need and compliment that talent that the team does have.

I couldn't agree more. Even Thomas Robinson, talented as he may be, is a questionable fit for our team. There was a great opportunity for a GM with a vision to mold our roster into something very good this off-season and Geoff has done the opposite. I don't even know if this makes us better than we were last season.

 

[NoBonus]

Yay, another gunner. Just what the doctor ordered. This HAS to mean another move, right?

Amnesty Salmons
trade Thornton, Outlaw, Jimmer for Iggy
Resign Twill

IT/Brooks
Evans/Twill
Iggy/Johnson
Throb/JT
Cousins/Hayes

Aw who am I kidding

No way the Kings amnesty anyone while the magloops are still owners. They need the salary to get them to the minimum salary floor.

 

[steelevt]

dont know why i didnt see this coming. we always take rockets leftovers like landry/hayes/jermaine taylor/head/brooks (technically the last 2 were from different teams after the rockets but u get the idea). the good news is the warriors take all of our leftover crap. moore/amundson/mcguire and talking to landry now. so maybe next year theyll take hayes or salmons off our hands. one can hope right?

 

[KingsFanSince85]

I can't be the only one that would have greatly preferred that the Kings resign Terrance Williams rather than sign Brooks.

Nope. You are not the only one.

While Brooks is a better perimeter shooter, I can't name any other skill he brings to the table over Williams. While I get that Williams isn't a PG by trade, he can and was used to handle and distribute the ball. Williams is a better playmaker, a far superior defender, can get to the basket and, oh btw, .... he's a half a foot taller.

 

[funkykingston]

Anyone who thinks Brooks is starting over Thomas .. that is an absurd thought.

He's making 3 million dollars. That's chump change. Lower than backup PG money. Thomas is better and younger.

Just to play devil's advocate, the chatter certainly seemed to be that the team considers Thomas a change of pace bench PG rather than a viable starter and while Brooks is only making $3,000,000, IT is signed for less than $800,000. I don't think it's absurd that Brooks may become the starter.

That said, I really think IT earned the right to start the year at PG. Had the Kings traded for Lowry or acquired someone equally or more talented then I'd be fine with Thomas moving to the bench. But until I see otherwise I don't believe Aaron Brooks is an upgrade. Given the 20 ppg and 40% 3pt shooting year he had in Houston a couple years back he might be, but even then it isn't as if he brings something DIFFERENT to the table than IT. He's still an undersized, shoot first PG who (IMO) is less successful at running an offense given what IT showed last year. And I think despite being a bit bigger he's a slightly weaker defender than Thomas.

Lowry and IT would have been a nice platoon with different strengths and weaknesses whereas Brooks and IT seem like duplication at the PG spot.

What it looks like to me is that Smart is really committed to being a run and gun team. That realization makes me even less happy with this move than I was initially.

 

[MassachusettsKingsFan]

I do not think that word means what you think it means...

Am I missing something? That's very possible.

 

[NoBonus]

I couldn't agree more. Even Thomas Robinson, talented as he may be, is a questionable fit for our team. There was a great opportunity for a GM with a vision to mold our roster into something very good this off-season and Geoff has done the opposite. I don't even know if this makes us better than we were last season.

Not a good fit for the team??? What team? The one that came in close to last place the last four seasons? Who cares if someone fits into that team, because that team is being shown the door. All I care about is does a player do well with Cousins... nothing else really matters at this point... it's not like they are dropping from playoff contention or something, they are trying to climb out of the basement and the current crew isn't doing it. Not a good fit for the team... you're funny.

 

[Vlade4GM]

I'll always have fond memories of him destroying Derek Fisher in the playoffs a few years ago but he's a bit overrated as a player. He's certainly not a traditional point guard and is more of a scoring guard (which I'm pretty sure Sacramento has more than their share of)

Pretty mediocre pickup if you ask me. He's certainly better than Jimmer I guess but this is a pretty useless move.

Who hasn't destroyed Derek Fisher?

 

[steelevt]

Iggy Hawes. Kings fans simultaneous hold parade and burn down PBP in celebration/disgust.

if they have to send hawes for us to get iggy, i will gladly pick hawes up at the airport...i will probably take the wrong exit on the 80 and drive him to the bay area and drop him off at oracle arena though.

 

[ESP47]

Not a good fit for the team??? What team? The one that came in close to last place the last four seasons? Who cares if someone fits into that team, because that team is being shown the door. All I care about is does a player do well with Cousins... nothing else really matters at this point... it's not like they are dropping from playoff contention or something, they are trying to climb out of the basement and the current crew isn't doing it. Not a good fit for the team... you're funny.

They aren't good fits because they have no future with the team and they can't even play well with the current players. These signings just clog up the roster for the next couple of years with bad players. Instead of having money to sign the Iggy's and Chandler's of the league, we're stuck in this viscious cycle of signing garbage players who's contracts are on the books for longer than we need.

 

[Cecil]

I'm glad the Kings got a PG who can dribble the ball up the court. Until Jimmer can do that, he needs to sit. Aaron Brooks is a huge upgrade over Jimmer at this point in Jimmer's career. I like the move with the 3 million the Kings had to spend on Brooks.

Also .. the Kings let Donte Green go and bring in James Johnson. That right there is an upgrade as well ... looking at stats. Granted I didn't see him play, but he was good as a utility player on my fantasy basketball league.

Whiteside was a joke ... good to let him go and let someone else deal with the lack of basketball IQ, poor effort, and injuries.

Although there weren't any major moves, the team is better.

Now ... what to do with Salmons, Hayes, and Outlaw ...

 

[funkykingston]

FK =best poster on KF.

Thanks, I appreciate that.

Nope. You are not the only one.

While Brooks is a better perimeter shooter, I can't name any other skill he brings to the table over Williams. While I get that Williams isn't a PG by trade, he can and was used to handle and distribute the ball. Williams is a better playmaker, a far superior defender, can get to the basket and, oh btw, .... he's a half a foot taller.

I still think a TWill/Tyreke backcourt would work, especially with IT as a change of pace/trap breaking PG. Use a combination of free agency,and a trade centered around Thorton and/or the 5th pick to get a defender/spot up shooter at the SF and a weakside defender/rebounder at the four and you have an athletic, physically imposing, defensive minded starting lineup with role players like Thompson, Thomas, Garcia and possibly Jimmer.

It's frustrating to think about what could have (easily) been.