A thought about Derrick Favors:

[bajaden]

Paul Milsap-PF
Al Jefferson-PF
Derrick Favors-PF
Francisco Elson-C
Mehmet Okur-C
Kyrylo Fesenko-C

Delvin Harris-PG
Earl Watkins-PG
Ronnie Price-PG

C.J.Miles-SG
Raja Bell-SG

Gordon Haywood-SF
Jeremy Evans-SF

Let me ask you. Does this roster look a little lopsided to you? Utah essentially has two SF's on their roster, if you don't count Kirilenko, who is probably gone. And, both the players that they have at that position were rookies last year. At the other end they're loaded with centers and PF's. Elson and Fesenko are both unrestricted freeagents, but Utah will probably try and retain Fesenko, and they hold his Bird rights as well.

Jefferson and Milsap are going to get their 35 to 38 minutes a game every night. That doesn't leave much time for Favors. Utah also holds, at the current time, the 6th and the 12th picks in the draft. They could also use any and all cap space they can aquire.

So I propose trading Casspi and switching our 5th pick in the draft with their 12th pick in the draft straight up for Favors. Utah would then have some help at the SF position, which they dearly need, and they would have two picks in the top 6 of the draft. Which, who knows, they might be able to trade for the top pick in the draft.

We would aquire a very talented young player who would be the eventual successor at the PF position. I don't know if Utah would do this, but Milsap and Jefferson aren't going anywhere anytime soon. So they have a logjam there. Plus, I think Casspi would fit into their style of play.

Edit: I also might be willing to throw Whiteside into this deal to sweeten it if necessary. But only if necessary.

 

[DesertFox]

I would do this in a second.

 

[D13]

Nice, but what kinda minutes could we give Favors if we resign Sammy D for 4-5 yrs? I'd assume Cuz would move over to PF mostly. Maybe we could do something with JT in this?

 

[Vlade4GM]

I would totally do it, but I don't know if Utah would.

 

[rainmaker]

I don't know. It would depend on if Kanter is available where we pick. I say that because I think Kanter could be better than Favors, and is definitely a more talented, better all around player. If it was a choice between Kanter or Favors, I'm taking Kanter.

Now if we did get the 5th, and Kanter was taken 3 or 4, then yes I would make that trade. But if we're looking to add another big, why not go after Kanter? I'd like to move Casspi, but not in order to miss out on Kanter to go after Favors. Right now Favors relies on athleticism, and whether or not he ever develops an all around game is up in the air. Kanter has the all around game right now, and I'm much more confident in him going forward. I don't consider Kanter a risky pick. I do however consider going after Favors a risky move.

 

[TheWileyVet]

I would def consider this if we weren't picking top 2. But would Utah?

 

[gunks]

Not huge on Favors....


...Now if we could somehow get Ed Davis from Toronto....

 

[Arby's Roast Beef]

Favors can D up and could be an option if we lose Dalembert to the Knicks in free agency. Not sure why they want Casspi though--he's an offensive minded tall SF, and they already have one of that ilk in Gordon Hayward, who looked like he was coming to his own late this season (although I still think he's overrated and really hurts them defensively). Another option would be to pick Biyombo in the draft if he's still around.

 

[bajaden]

I don't know. It would depend on if Kanter is available where we pick. I say that because I think Kanter could be better than Favors, and is definitely a more talented, better all around player. If it was a choice between Kanter or Favors, I'm taking Kanter.

Now if we did get the 5th, and Kanter was taken 3 or 4, then yes I would make that trade. But if we're looking to add another big, why not go after Kanter? I'd like to move Casspi, but not in order to miss out on Kanter to go after Favors. Right now Favors relies on athleticism, and whether or not he ever develops an all around game is up in the air. Kanter has the all around game right now, and I'm much more confident in him going forward. I don't consider Kanter a risky pick. I do however consider going after Favors a risky move.

The reason is that the Favors deal would be done before we would know if were getting Dalembert back or not. Favors is a ture PF, and an extremely athletic one that can play defense, rebound, and block shots. He can do that right now. He has some offensive skills, but they're more limited than his than his defensive skills. In the perfect world, Cousins is a center, and should have a defensive PF next to him. Thats exactly what Favors can be. And he's 6'10", 250 pounds. And he's 19 years old.

A year ago he was projected as one of the top 2 or 3 players in the draft, and a possible all star of the future. And thats what I'm looking to with this move. I like Kanter, but once again, Kanter is a true center. As far as minutes go, he would have to earn them, and there would be nights when he would be needed. Personally, if I'm Utah, I wouldn't make this deal. But in their case, they've got Milsap and Jefferson tied up for a while, and little or no experience at the SF position. If they want to trade, Favors is the best trading chip they have. And the advantage they have in trading with us, is that we can take back more in money than we send out. So in this deal, Utah would save around 3 mil under the cap.

 

[Circa_1985_Fan]

Nice, but what kinda minutes could we give Favors if we resign Sammy D for 4-5 yrs? I'd assume Cuz would move over to PF mostly. Maybe we could do something with JT in this?

I'd rather not trade JT at this point...he knows his role now, and that's to bring energy off the bench, and occasional spot start for injured bigs, and he's fine with that. If he gives 8 & 6 off the bench, that's perfectly fine with me.

 

[Uncia03]

This is a tough one.

Let's say that we do throw in Whiteside. That would leave us with a rotation (if we signed Dalembert) of:

Cousins
Dalembert
JT
Favors

I think we can all agree that if JT can continue to play as he did to close out the season, he's the perfect 3rd big off the bench. (He can play the 4 or the 5, will always provide hustle and rebounding, and can provide either offense or defense)
And if we sign Dalembert, then we have to play him along-side Cousins, so does Favors become our 4th big, and if so, does that justify the cost?

I think that making this trade would actually hurt negotiations with Dalembert, because it would be more difficult to convince him that this trade for Favors wouldn't negatively impact the minutes he'd get if he signed with the Kings.

So the question then becomes: Would you rather have a Cousins/Dalembert/JT rotation or a Cousins/Favors/JT rotation?

Obviously the Dalembert rotation is going to cost you a lot more as he's a vet. But you know that he works well with Cousins, and he's is a vet. He's experienced and proven as a defender/rebounder/shot-blocker.

Favors is going to cost you a lot less, and will allow him to grow with this very young team. There aren't questions about his position, as he's going to be a PF, and he has good length, is a good rebounder, and should end up being a very good defender.
But he's not as good as Dalembert right now, and there is no guarantee that he'd have the same sort of chemistry on the court that seems to have developed between Dalembert and Cousins.

Finally, what do you do with the 12th pick in the draft? Do you convince yourself that Faried can be a 3/4 and reach for him? How about Fredette, Hamilton, or Singleton?

It seems as if all of the above might be reaches at the 12th spot, but who else do you go for? At least with the 5th pick we can probably pick up Knight or Kanter, though getting Kanter would present the same issues as going for Favors.


I guess if Petrie is thinking about taking Kanter right now, then I'd go for this trade, because that 12th pick could be used to pick up another complimentary piece for this team, and I do believe that a Favors/Cousins front-court could be very, very good down the line.

I think you still try to re-sign Dalembert, because it would give Favors more time to develop, and Dalembert should always be a good trading piece, provided we don't over-pay for him.

Don't know that Utah does this sort of deal, but given the opportunity, I might consider it if Kanter is currently the top choice of Petrie's around the 5th spot.

 

[LPKingsFan]

Sadly, no way the Jazz do this. Favors was their return for Deron. I imagine that, while their roster is fairly lopsided, they'd rather trade any of their other PFs before Favors.

 

[bajaden]

Sadly, no way the Jazz do this. Favors was their return for Deron. I imagine that, while their roster is fairly lopsided, they'd rather trade any of their other PFs before Favors.

You could be right, but the other PF's you refer to are Paul Milsap and Al Jefferson. Both superior players to Favors at the moment.

 

[Big Cuz 15]

Sadly, no way the Jazz do this. Favors was their return for Deron. I imagine that, while their roster is fairly lopsided, they'd rather trade any of their other PFs before Favors.

yeah, it would be a high price for favors. he was the centerpiece of the deron trade

 

[TTown Kings]

I'd do this in a heartbeat, doubt Denver would though. At 12 we could very likely still get a good SF prospect like Jordan Hamilton. You'd basically have a young blue chip prospect at every position on the team and you could still round out the roster with a few vets. That team would be scary talented

 

[Vlade4GM]

You could be right, but the other PF's you refer to are Paul Milsap and Al Jefferson. Both superior players to Favors at the moment.

You can't win in the long run with an undersized frontcourt like that though. Favors gives them a long athletic defensive minded big.

 

[Kingster]

I'd make that Favors deal in a heartbeat. If the Kings don't have one of the top two picks, I'd give them that pick straight up along with Casspi. (I might make your offer though initially). Within a very short period of time, Favors is going to be >>> Dally. I think he could provide both inside and outside D, and inside and out O (eventually). He's a much better fit than Dally for the Kings.

PS I'd like to keep Whiteside though. He's a nice fall-back to have at the pf.

 

[Shabazz916]

he is overrated id rather have DC,JT,HW & D Block