So are we mad that Achiuwa went 12-16 for 29 points in 41 minutes because he's a veteran, or happy because we're developing a young player who could help us down the road? Just trying to figure out how I'm supposed to feel about this.
[Game] 64/82: Kings vs. Pelicans 05 MAR 2026, 7pm PT/10pm ET
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SacTownKid
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That's the thing though, he's abjectly failing in every single possible way regardless so it not only makes him look worse It's making him look like possibly the worst coach in at least the 2000's. And that's covering a lot of territory with a big white banner that reads "I SUCK THE MOST". lol. I get the tank thing, but he can hide behind youth and he can't see it for some reason.
Joshyjosh31
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What the actual **** and Nique 21 minutes the top FG attempts by players that won’t be here next year comical
QWERTYLICIOUS
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Staring at 60 losses 3 years after taking the Warriors to 7 games in the 1st round is some seriously wild stuff!
SacTownKid
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Well, hate to say it but this is classic Kings use their valuable time for a player to contract year himself into money somewhere else. And as of now the Kings can't even afford to sign him lol! And when he ends up being what he is, a role player, and the Kings sign him without a market you have Trey Lyles part 2. The Kings are exhaustingly repetitive in how they operate. History just seems to repeat on fast forward.
Monk was literally the only player from that team on the floor tonight
24 years ago we had a successful quest for "60 before 20" and we might be shooting for that again
QWERTYLICIOUS
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I see what you just did there...
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I hate to be reminded of this brutal fact.
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The top 3 teams in the NBA, combined, don't even have fifty losses!!!
Well, the first thing it signifies is a coach trying to win when the rest of the teams seeded this low aren’t (and thus he will be summarily let go).
But I hope we keep Precious past this year, solid
serbiangoat
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Damn I was certain seeing the thread get to page 4 this was a win.....
Joshyjosh31
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https://twitter(.)com / PelsFilmRoom/status/2029790186670805131
Why’s this idiot always bitching that kid never plays let him shoot my god
Why’s this idiot always bitching that kid never plays let him shoot my god
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Not only that, but Doug is somehow reducing the roles of Nique/Maxime/Plowden along with Carter somehow not being in the rotation.
Hes a truly terrible coach. And theres next to no chance we'll fire him
"Him"mer Fredette
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I was kinda hoping Precious would see the Kings believed in him and gave him a chance. A chance he thrived him. Then in turn would stick around for veteran leadership and he is only 26(may be here for the turnaround). He plays hard he barely gripes at the officials and seems very professional. That is one person I'd hope would be valued by this organization to teach the rookies. But that's probably just fairy tale thinking at this point...
Because the fate of his value and usage is all in the Kings hands to mold.
Impressing no one in the organization behind the scenes apparently and being awful on the floor plays no role.
They tried to move him reportedly with a protected pick for Kuminga last summer (albeit with a long contract in Monk) and got no traction and the Kings were the only suitor. Following that up with steeply declining in the G league at 24, and his value had cratered before the Kings were in tank mode to play him.
They should have been playing him well before they were in tank mode, since the team was trash from the very first couple weeks.
Either play the guy and make him valuable to your team or play him and make him valuable to another team. Nique has been just as bad, if not worse on a minute by minute basis than Carter has.
Where are you hearing that he's a bit of an issue behind the scenes?
gunks
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Yeah, I keep reading about this but have yet to see sources cited by anyone bringing it up.
Carter's shooting is hot garbage but I feel like he does a lot of other things well enough to warrant at least a bench role. Especially on the worst team in the league.
But I guess Christie and the FO are focused on developing Westbrook and Deebo.
The young players constantly deferring to the vets is really tiresome. I don't know if it's because the young guys don't have the confidence to go out there and get theirs or if it's just because of the respect that the HOF vets carry, but either way the deferring to them on the court is at the expense of their own development.
Doug should know this and shouldn't stagger the vets minutes so the young guys don't have a safety blanket to defer to all game.
Frankly, this is on Doug, not the rookies. Can't expect them to go up to a Russ or DDR and just "demand" the ball. Especially when a lot of these young guys now grew up idolizing guys like Russ and DDR.
Doug's responsibility should be to put out lineups that give them the chance to work with the ball in their hands. Or to sit with the vets and explain to them how the end of the season is going to go.
I wonder if Doug is feeling some level of heat about the W-L record and that's why he's abandoned the young guy plan. Because for like a 6 game stretch or so, we were actually playing the roster as we should have been doing at this point in the season; but he's went back to the early season vets only plan.
SacTownKid
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If Doug is still concerned about wins and losses then clearly his best bet is to go with the young guys. They might still buy in? Probably not. More than a few times it looked like an eyeroll or two when DC pulls the young guys aside. He's lost every single corner of his locker room which is pretty much impossible to do, haha.
The problem I think partly has to do with the fact that Doug came into this season with literally zero plan other than taking a team full of non defensive personnel (other than some of the guys he never played obviously) and getting them to defend, lol. His offense is all give the PG the ball and run stuff and this is literally PG 5 in Hayes that looks no different than anyone else, including Carter. Although, Carter by far has shown the best ability to get into the paint and draw defenses so I literally have NO IDEA what's he looking for out there. There is no system, there is no getting away from Russ or DeMar because that's his only crutch. If the last 10 games or so aren't ALL young guys, including Devin Carter, then this is a totally wasted season. It felt like 08-09 coming in, well, this season and lack of interest this summer could very easily take the cake unless they get a top 3 pick. They've outdone themselves yet again!
SacTownKid
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Yet Hayes is actually getting minutes over him right now lol. Splitting 12 minutes between the two is just going to make anyone look horrible. Neither are this bad at shooting. And Carter in the paint at one point was like 80th percentile? Like, borderline elite. And that's with defenses playing off of him. Sure did remind me of another super fast Kings PG early on.
And I actually wouldn't mind Hayes in the 18-20 MPG back-up role.... behind Carter. He's been incredibly bad and likely just remains a bust, but I do like some of the passing he brings and he's pretty explosive. Who know, give him 20 games at 20 MPG and see what that looks like at the end of the year.
This org is absolutely horrendous at playing odds. If we say there's a... 5-10% chance Hayes is a future NBA rotation player, why are we not exploring that? What if something clicks and you hit the 1% outcome where he's a future starter?
Instead we're squishing any chance of that kind of breakout with massive Russ/Monk/DDR minutes.
Is that some voodoo advanced stats that Nique has been as bad as Carter? I know the org doesn’t feel that way apparently and I’d gather few Kings fans do either (I rarely like to speak in general for Kings fans, lol)?
Carter is a small SG who shoots ridiculously, Nique has an all around game that may or may not translate. He hasn’t enthused me like our young bigs this year, for sure, but he has a natural talent base that we saw in SL that hopefully somewhat comes to fruition.
None of us have an ear to the locker room, we just know apparently the org doesn’t like Carter from his usage and trying to move him after year 1. We can assume there is a reason for it or their just throwing darts which some of you (shudder, Keon), might think