5 Ideas for this Summer

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Since this summer we are one of a few teams under the cap and the economy is horrible, we are in a great spot to take advantage of cash strapped teams. Here are a few ideas I came with on my lunch hour. I'm making the assumption that without SAR's salary and after signing our high pick we'll be at about 50M and have roughly 8M in cap space to absorb more salary that we send back in trades. Numbers based on:
http://hoopshype.com/salaries/sacramento.htm

Idea #1:
Washington Wizards
incoming: 2nd round pick

Kings
incoming:Etan Thomas, 2009 high 1st

Reason: Wizards will be $10M over the tax line and will try to get back to winning with a healthy Arenas/Jamison/Butler next year. This move saves them $20M tax payments included. This makes me very happy and lets us go Thabeet/Teague or Thabeet/Rubio in the draft and really get this rebuild going. This is my favorite.


Idea #2
Utah Jazz
incoming:2nd round pick

Kings
incoming:2010 Knicks unprotected pick, Matt Harpring (6.5M expires 2010)

Reason: Small market team and will be over the tax line if they want to keep Boozer even if they let Milsap go for nothing. Could let Boozer walk and keep Milsap and be right about at the tax line, but if they had this option they might choose to keep Boozer and contend. This trade will give them plenty of room to do so and they just have to give up a pick they should never have had anyway thanks to Isiah. Knicks should be bad again in 09 making this a high pick while they prep for the Lebronathon.

Idea #3
New Orleans Hornets
incoming:2nd round pick

Kings
incoming: Julian Wright, Antonio Daniels (6.6M expiring 2010), 2009 late 1st

Reason: Hornets keep their contending core, get under the tax, save $16M or so and just have to give up some promising young pieces to us in exchange. They just tried to give up Chandler for nothing so it's hard to believe they wouldn't listen to this. We have an overpaid backup PG for 1 year plus some more young talent.

Idea #4 - clear the crap
Houston Rockets
incoming: KT, Beno, Nocioni
Kings
incoming: McGrady, Cook

Reason: Assume McGrady is done through next year, they want to resign Artest, stay under the tax line, and get a little help at PG since Brooks is looking shaky. This gives them space to do all that for their broken down superstar that is basically gone already. We get rid of all our mistakes and get one big expiring and then try to figure out what to do in 2010.

Idea #5 - clear the crap...if the first idea doesn't work
Phoenix Suns
incoming: Beno, Nocioni
Kings
incoming: Shaq

Reason: The Suns team meant to contend is a failure AND they will be 5-10M over the tax line next year with a penny pinching owner. Not a good combo. This gives them 8M in space to get under the tax and gives them a starting PG they can play after they trade or let a 36yo Nash go in 2010. We buy the big guy out so he never puts on a Kings jersey and we have tons of 2010 room to play with.
 
Since this summer we are one of a few teams under the cap and the economy is horrible, we are in a great spot to take advantage of cash strapped teams. Here are a few ideas I came with on my lunch hour. I'm making the assumption that without SAR's salary and after signing our high pick we'll be at about 50M and have roughly 8M in cap space to absorb more salary that we send back in trades. Numbers based on:
http://hoopshype.com/salaries/sacramento.htm

Idea #1:
Washington Wizards
incoming: 2nd round pick

Kings
incoming:Etan Thomas, 2009 high 1st

Reason: Wizards will be $10M over the tax line and will try to get back to winning with a healthy Arenas/Jamison/Butler next year. This move saves them $20M tax payments included. This makes me very happy and lets us go Thabeet/Teague or Thabeet/Rubio in the draft and really get this rebuild going. This is my favorite.


Idea #2
Utah Jazz
incoming:2nd round pick

Kings
incoming:2010 Knicks unprotected pick, Matt Harpring (6.5M expires 2010)

Reason: Small market team and will be over the tax line if they want to keep Boozer even if they let Milsap go for nothing. Could let Boozer walk and keep Milsap and be right about at the tax line, but if they had this option they might choose to keep Boozer and contend. This trade will give them plenty of room to do so and they just have to give up a pick they should never have had anyway thanks to Isiah. Knicks should be bad again in 09 making this a high pick while they prep for the Lebronathon.

Idea #3
New Orleans Hornets
incoming:2nd round pick

Kings
incoming: Julian Wright, Antonio Daniels (6.6M expiring 2010), 2009 late 1st

Reason: Hornets keep their contending core, get under the tax, save $16M or so and just have to give up some promising young pieces to us in exchange. They just tried to give up Chandler for nothing so it's hard to believe they wouldn't listen to this. We have an overpaid backup PG for 1 year plus some more young talent.

Idea #4 - clear the crap
Houston Rockets
incoming: KT, Beno, Nocioni
Kings
incoming: McGrady, Cook

Reason: Assume McGrady is done through next year, they want to resign Artest, stay under the tax line, and get a little help at PG since Brooks is looking shaky. This gives them space to do all that for their broken down superstar that is basically gone already. We get rid of all our mistakes and get one big expiring and then try to figure out what to do in 2010.

Idea #5 - clear the crap...if the first idea doesn't work
Phoenix Suns
incoming: Beno, Nocioni
Kings
incoming: Shaq

Reason: The Suns team meant to contend is a failure AND they will be 5-10M over the tax line next year with a penny pinching owner. Not a good combo. This gives them 8M in space to get under the tax and gives them a starting PG they can play after they trade or let a 36yo Nash go in 2010. We buy the big guy out so he never puts on a Kings jersey and we have tons of 2010 room to play with.

Ideas 4 and 5 scare the crap out of me. I think both of those would set this team back lightyears!
And btw... I didn't want Shaq on this team when he was in his prime and three-peating, do you think I want the 09 version?

EDIT -
Best idea from my eyes? Number one.
 
Ideas 4 and 5 scare the crap out of me. I think both of those would set this team back lightyears!
And btw... I didn't want Shaq on this team when he was in his prime and three-peating, do you think I want the 09 version?

EDIT -
Best idea from my eyes? Number one.

Being more clear, no way Shaq or McGrady put on a Kings uniform with 4 or 5. It's a funky salary dump where we take on more salary next year because we can in exchange for removing our two long term toxic contracts (Nocioni and Beno). In 2010 we'd have an absolutely enormous amount of cap room, like $30M or so. In this economy who knows what that could buy us.
 
Great insight on some of these predictions. It kind of turns the perspective around of penny pinching, viewing other teams trying to save cash. I think with the Etan Thomas one (the most intriguing to me) if ESPN is right, he has an ETO. Now if it's a player option, he'll most likely stay and we'll have two Thomas' riding the pine if the trade is done. If it's a team option, there's no way the Wizards do this. If there was some way we can make them throw in Blatche... :) I would imagine using some of our Trade Exception in some of these moves.
 
I think with the Etan Thomas one (the most intriguing to me) if ESPN is right, he has an ETO. Now if it's a player option, he'll most likely stay and we'll have two Thomas' riding the pine if the trade is done. If it's a team option, there's no way the Wizards do this.

ETOs are by definition player options. There appears to be no functional difference between an ETO and a player option in most cases, though an ETO can trigger multiple seasons (like KT's last summer) while a player option can only trigger one season.

In Etan Thomas' case, the ETO has one season following, so the difference between it being an ETO and a player option is pretty much academic.
 
Idea #4 - clear the crap
Houston Rockets
incoming: KT, Beno, Nocioni
Kings
incoming: McGrady, Cook

Reason: Assume McGrady is done through next year, they want to resign Artest, stay under the tax line, and get a little help at PG since Brooks is looking shaky. This gives them space to do all that for their broken down superstar that is basically gone already. We get rid of all our mistakes and get one big expiring and then try to figure out what to do in 2010.

I haven't seen him play since the trade, but they were speaking highly of Brooks on NBA Fastbreak last night. Sounds like he has been playing very well since the Alston trade.

I like the first two options. I'm all for any deal that gets us more youth/talent....
 
Since this summer we are one of a few teams under the cap and the economy is horrible, we are in a great spot to take advantage of cash strapped teams. Here are a few ideas I came with on my lunch hour. I'm making the assumption that without SAR's salary and after signing our high pick we'll be at about 50M and have roughly 8M in cap space to absorb more salary that we send back in trades. Numbers based on:
http://hoopshype.com/salaries/sacramento.htm

Idea #1:
Washington Wizards
incoming: 2nd round pick

Kings
incoming:Etan Thomas, 2009 high 1st

Reason: Wizards will be $10M over the tax line and will try to get back to winning with payments included. This makes me very happy and lets us go Thabeet/Teague or Thabeet/Rubio in the draft and really get this rebuild going. This is my favorite.

a healthy Arenas/Jamison/Butler next year. This move saves them $20M tax
Idea #2
Utah Jazz
incoming:2nd round pick

Kings
incoming:2010 Knicks unprotected pick, Matt Harpring (6.5M expires 2010)

Reason: Small market team and will be over the tax line if they want to keep Boozer even if they let Milsap go for nothing. Could let Boozer walk and keep Milsap and be right about at the tax line, but if they had this option they might choose to keep Boozer and contend. This trade will give them plenty of room to do so and they just have to give up a pick they should never have had anyway thanks to Isiah. Knicks should be bad again in 09 making this a high pick while they prep for the Lebronathon.

Idea #3
New Orleans Hornets
incoming:2nd round pick

Kings
incoming: Julian Wright, Antonio Daniels (6.6M expiring 2010), 2009 late 1st

Reason: Hornets keep their contending core, get under the tax, save $16M or so and just have to give up some promising young pieces to us in exchange. They just tried to give up Chandler for nothing so it's hard to believe they wouldn't listen to this. We have an overpaid backup PG for 1 year plus some more young talent.

Idea #4 - clear the crap
Houston Rockets
incoming: KT, Beno, Nocioni
Kings
incoming: McGrady, Cook

Reason: Assume McGrady is done through next year, they want to resign Artest, stay under the tax line, and get a little help at PG since Brooks is looking shaky. This gives them space to do all that for their broken down superstar that is basically gone already. We get rid of all our mistakes and get one big expiring and then try to figure out what to do in 2010.

Idea #5 - clear the crap...if the first idea doesn't work
Phoenix Suns
incoming: Beno, Nocioni
Kings
incoming: Shaq

Reason: The Suns team meant to contend is a failure AND they will be 5-10M over the tax line next year with a penny pinching owner. Not a good combo. This gives them 8M in space to get under the tax and gives them a starting PG they can play after they trade or let a 36yo Nash go in 2010. We buy the big guy out so he never puts on a Kings jersey and we have tons of 2010 room to play with.

1) The Wizards aren't trading off a lottery pick just to rid themselves of a one year contract.
2) Neither are the Jazz.
3) I really doubt the Kings are bringing on any payroll...we were the most active cost-slasher at the deadline. What indication do we have the Maloofs would change that now?
4) Nobody wants Beno
5) Nobody wants Beno
 
I haven't seen him play since the trade, but they were speaking highly of Brooks on NBA Fastbreak last night. Sounds like he has been playing very well since the Alston trade.

I like the first two options. I'm all for any deal that gets us more youth/talent....

Will be interesting to see what the Rockets do. As of right now they really don't have the money to resign Artest with summer while staying under the tax line. If they lose Artest and McGrady, their two major impact guys outside of Yao....ouch. They could take a major dive next year.

A move like the one I listed could let them resign Artest, bring in Nocioni who would do great under Rick off the bench there, and add some PG depth in Beno. Then see what Rick can do. The price would be letting McGrady go...and he may be essentially gone anyway.

However, they could just let it go next year and try to nab a big free agent to pair with Yao in 2010. Yao has a player option in 2010 though and could leave for somewhere else if the team looks horrible next year so they might not want to take the risk of major suckage. Who knows
 
1) The Wizards aren't trading off a lottery pick just to rid themselves of a one year contract.
If they get pick #1 or #2 and Rubio declares, I highly doubt it. If they are #4 or #5 I could see them saving themselves 15-20M and going with their 3 highly paid vets. Also, the Wizards trading thier pick for cap relief scenario has already been floating around.

2) Neither are the Jazz.
If next year is the same as this year that looks like a #10 pick. Would they trade a future #10 if it was standing in the way of retaining Boozer and/or Milsap? Possible
3) I really doubt the Kings are bringing on any payroll...we were the most active cost-slasher at the deadline. What indication do we have the Maloofs would change that now?
Next year even with our draft picks we'll be around $50M which would be 5M less than the cheapest team spent this year. I'm betting Petrie has a little wiggle room to spend this Summer.
4) Nobody wants Beno
5) Nobody wants Beno
Read up on Robert Sarver. He'd do just about anything now to save $$.
 
If they get pick #1 or #2 and Rubio declares, I highly doubt it. If they are #4 or #5 I could see them saving themselves 15-20M and going with their 3 highly paid vets. Also, the Wizards trading thier pick for cap relief scenario has already been floating around.
So to save $15M for one year they'd trade off the most cost-effective commodity in basketball, a high lottery pick? No way. Plus morale-wise they'd be better off going up to every single fan and pissing on their leg.

If next year is the same as this year that looks like a #10 pick. Would they trade a future #10 if it was standing in the way of retaining Boozer and/or Milsap? Possible
There are other ways to cut costs. Harpring's only on the hook for one more year. Again, its just so terrible for their basketball side that its pretty much impossible to me.

Next year even with our draft picks we'll be around $50M which would be 5M less than the cheapest team spent this year. I'm betting Petrie has a little wiggle room to spend this Summer.
Maybe, but I doubt it. Considering how short-term focused the cash-savings are I think the Maloofs are in financial trouble and aren't going anywhere near a big financial outlay.

Read up on Robert Sarver. He'd do just about anything now to save $$.

Beno and Noc are on the hook for like $13 mil a year for four more years..something like that? Let's imagine in thousands. If you were in financial trouble would trade off a one-year 20K commitment for a four year 52K commitment?
 
So to save $15M for one year they'd trade off the most cost-effective commodity in basketball, a high lottery pick? No way. Plus morale-wise they'd be better off going up to every single fan and pissing on their leg.


There are other ways to cut costs. Harpring's only on the hook for one more year. Again, its just so terrible for their basketball side that its pretty much impossible to me.


Maybe, but I doubt it. Considering how short-term focused the cash-savings are I think the Maloofs are in financial trouble and aren't going anywhere near a big financial outlay.



Beno and Noc are on the hook for like $13 mil a year for four more years..something like that? Let's imagine in thousands. If you were in financial trouble would trade off a one-year 20K commitment for a four year 52K commitment?

You disagree? Think it's impossible? That's fine. I could argue each of those points, but it won't matter. Strange things are happening in the NBA (and the world). We saw Camby and Chandler, who are still both very effective and on contending teams, traded for NOTHING this year. Why? Because teams were trying to avoid the tax and NOTHING is better than talent for a lot of owners...even ones going deep in the playoffs.

Although just rumors, the press was amazed that reported offers for Raef F'n Lafrentz and his insured expiring contract were of similar or better quality to offers for Amare.

This summer when owners start seeing even more season ticket holders opt out, expect more of this. It may not be these deals and may not be us, but things will happen this summer that make absolutely no sense from a basketball/talent perspective.

The 5 or 10 owners that are over the tax line and are not in the very upper upper tier will be fighting hard to shed salary. We just happen to be in the fortunate position to benefit from that. I'm hopeful we can make something from the opportunity.
 
trading for chandler would be a nice move if you guys are cool with trading hawes... chandler and thompson would be a nice looking frontcourt... but the 5 options in the original post kinda suck...
 
trading for chandler would be a nice move if you guys are cool with trading hawes... chandler and thompson would be a nice looking frontcourt... but the 5 options in the original post kinda suck...

NO just tried to trade Chandler for garbage for no reason other than to get under the tax line next year. You would then trade our 20 year old lottery pick coming into his own for him? Amazing
 
i like hawes but chandler is way better than he is and is the type of center that we need. we would still have griffin to deal with as well, thats a cool rotation of thompson, chandler and griffin. it will also prevent us from wasting a #1 pick on thabeet. the more i see him the more of a bust he looks like.
 
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