[Game] 47/82: Kings @ 76ers 29 JAN 2025, 4:30pm PT/7:30pm ET

[ShastaKingsFan]

A depressing game to watch. we are back to playing extremely streaky ball. minutes go by without a score. We looked like the team on the second night of the back to back. I love Doug’s passion, but it feels like he may be a dead man walking….unless the front office can pull a rabbit out of their hat.

Between our rough December, coach firing, fox drama and the Kangz national narrative again it’s hard to remain pumped to watch this team. Never good when front office drama and superstar trade rumors are more fun than watching the game.

I think Doug is their chosen head coach, no matter what else happens this season

 

[sactowndog]

I don't think Carter is untouchable but we're not going to move him for someone that isn't an immediate impact starter on this team.

it was reported we said he was untouchable. In defense of Monte he may have known loosing Fox was happening.

 

[NewArena]

Kuzma doesn't even seem to love playing basketball all that much. No thank you lol his attitude is the last thing this team needs

 

[hrdboild]

With all due respects to Fox, who the hell is he?
Rush to build around fox? The whole concensus argument around him is he is not a number 1 guy on a championship team. So with that logic set in stone, the guy we need to build around isn't even on this team yet.

What we did with Fox is make up for his shortcomings by surrounding him with shooters. Hueter, Buddy, Murray

We have treated Fox with all the respect in the world. His family has first class seats to every game.

We passed up on a generational talent so he could keep ball in his hands,

We traded an equal talented pg, so again we could keep ball in his hands.

We brought him in a all start 1st team Center, drafted a equally talented SF for him to grow with

Brought in his partner in Crime Monk to play with

Gave him a Max contract, protected him from criticism. Defended him from everything. Never put too much pressure to get us to the next level, until 8 years into his career.

Sick of throwing this organization under the bus because he couldn't get us over the hump. If he had half the heart of Sabonis or he'll even Cousins, we wouldn't even be talking about this. He would he on dame status and we would be sending him off to better pastures with a smile for giving it all he could to this organization.

Instead half the fans are pissed because we know he had another gear to give and refused. Another level but didn't go. We feel greatful, yet cheated at the same time. It's time to move on.

Thank you. Fox and Wife ans Baby

Blessed him with 5 different head coaches in 8 years.

Supported him with the 8th most All Star votes among guards in the Western Conference. And exactly 1 media vote this year.

Anointed him with the dubious distinction of being the reason for passing on drafting a generational talent.

Allowed him to take the lion's share of the blame in the media and blogo-twitter-verse for a decision that someone else made to fire a recent Coach of the Year winner.

I'm not mad at De'Aaron Fox nor am I mad at Vivek Ranadive or Monte McNair or anyone else in this organization that folks want to assign blame to. These are people trying to do their jobs with a whole lot of us, as a hobby, looking over their shoulders believing that we know better than them how it should be done. At the end of the day everyone gets to decide for themselves how to handle their business. I don't think it's fair for a sports franchise (or even the fans of a sports franchise) to treat employees as expendable assets when it serves their interest and then cry foul and plea for loyalty whenever one of them dares to push back against an increasingly hollow "team first" ethos.

To wit, Fox has already seen dozens of NBA teammates and head coaches shipped out of town. He's nearing middle age in his NBA-career lifespan and maybe he's looking around for the first time and wondering if there isn't a better situation for him somewhere else in the league before he signs away his ability to choose. As an employee myself, I almost always side with players when it comes to contract negotiations. If folks believe this team will be better without him, there's not really anything I can say for or against that. It will remain a hypothetical until it isn't. But I do sortof tilt my head at the prevailing fan attitude that a player choosing another team situation or even choosing not to commit to their current team has somehow betrayed our trust. None of us owns the team. Most of us make nothing from our relationship to it.

Why are we assuming lies and deceit are involved when it could just be rather obvious -- Fox is playing the best basketball that he knows how to play, Monte is doing the best he can to make this team better in the most stacked and competitive Western Conference that I can remember, and Vivek is eager to re-create the success he saw early on as part owner of the Warriors and probably won't ever outgrow the "fail fast" philosophy which brought him success as a software entrepreneur.

It's not my job to figure all of this out. I've already seen one of my childhood teams leave town and another one almost leave so the notion that any team is "our team" just doesn't really hold water for me anymore. I choose to root for this team and whoever currently wears the jersey or has formerly worn the jersey and hope that this is a choice which will bring me joy. If not now, than at some other point in the future. Watching Fox play basketball has brought me joy in the past and for that I wish him and his family well, however this situation turns out.

 

[jphilip]

Its kinda hard to test character and leadwrship ubdwr rge armosphere fox couldnt handle it and checked out while sabonis i have seen has not been tge main option and gets a triple double best to get castle and vassel and move on

 

[The_Jamal]

Stiles has been trying to sell Kuzma as the answer for 2 years now, that's all that needs to be known about his talent evaluatation skills, lol. Monte said Carter wasn't just about this season, it's about the long term but it's pretty clear he can help now. Certainly more than some of the other options taking minutes.

Crazy. Once again, people fire off "Monte sucks lolz" takes, but then think Kuzma is the answer

 

[chief bromden]

He’s a rookie, who all the draft freaks loved, why would we trade him Stiles?

having said that, we need him to get minutes. Dude can play

What do you love about him? His offense looks super suspect to me so far. I like his tenacity on defense but he gets whistled for the foul often, and I'm starting to worry that we got another Davion. Help me have hope!

 

[pdxKingsFan]

it was reported we said he was untouchable. In defense of Monte he may have known loosing Fox was happening.

In some stupid trade for Cam Johnson or John Collins he should be. Those guys aren't even Aaron Gordon level additions to this team. Not sure why certain people in Kings world are all blown up over them. They're solid sure, both would be coming off the bench most nights.

 

[megapoxy]

If Fox had a triple double last night like Domas did taking only 6 shots at the match and 2 in the 2nd half how would people react (in this forum and social media in general)?
And not to sound like Fox's lawyer or something... Fox stated that he wants be part of a team that is winning, but his number one priority is San Antonio (that has quite worse record at the moment) and in todays news it's also Miami that is 23-23 not better record than the Kings. I get it that they both can be stronger in the (near) future but still...
Also I have a sort of theory that the whole thing came to surface now that the team is on a "tour" playing matches on the road so Fox won't have to face the G1C atmosphere since there are no home matches till the trade deadline apart from the one vs Orlando in the last day that he might be gone by then.

 

[iowamcnabb]

What do you love about him? His offense looks super suspect to me so far. I like his tenacity on defense but he gets whistled for the foul often, and I'm starting to worry that we got another Davion. Help me have hope!

he’s already shown flashes of he can do offensively in the bigger minute games he has had. It’s really hard to have any rhythm out there when you are playing for 3 minutes. Defensively he is still adjusting to what refs call in the NBA vs college. Keon used to foul all the time too and now he is figuring it out. He makes winning plays. His pressure has already caused guys to dribble the ball out of bounds. He draws charges and draws fouls on guys trying to screen him. He rebounds.

 

[iowamcnabb]

If Fox had a triple double last night like Domas did taking only 6 shots at the match and 2 in the 2nd half how would people react (in this forum and social media in general)?
And not to sound like Fox's lawyer or something... Fox stated that he wants be part of a team that is winning, but his number one priority is San Antonio (that has quite worse record at the moment) and in todays news it's also Miami that is 23-23 not better record than the Kings. I get it that they both can be stronger in the (near) future but still...
Also I have a sort of theory that the whole thing came to surface now that the team is on a "tour" playing matches on the road so Fox won't have to face the G1C atmosphere since there are no home matches till the trade deadline apart from the one vs Orlando in the last day that he might be gone by then.

Fox is a business first kinda guy. If we were being completely objective, which franchise is better set up for long term success? It’s definitely the one with the 7’4 alien.

He left his friend agent even though he made more money than he would ever need. The result was a shoe deal. Now he wants to maximize his legacy. It’s harsh but probably the best outcome if you take all emotion out of it.

 

[pdxKingsFan]

Best outcome is being happy with my family and friends. The only reason I care about money is so that someday (soon hopefully) I won't have to work and can spend more time with them. Fox already has that.

 

[Jdbraver137]

Fox is a business first kinda guy. If we were being completely objective, which franchise is better set up for long term success? It’s definitely the one with the 7’4 alien.

He left his friend agent even though he made more money than he would ever need. The result was a shoe deal. Now he wants to maximize his legacy. It’s harsh but probably the best outcome if you take all emotion out of it.

That doesn’t mean you have your agent leaked it to the public and sabotage your team and the fans. That’s some snake

 

[iowamcnabb]

Best outcome is being happy with my family and friends. The only reason I care about money is so that someday (soon hopefully) I won't have to work and can spend more time with them. Fox already has that.

and for Fox apparently that’s in San Antonio, closer to both of their extended family.

 

[pdxKingsFan]

and for Fox apparently that’s in San Antonio, closer to both of their extended family.

Which is fine but to go public right now. (and also he could have done that with his agent friend instead of Mr. Paul).

 

[iowamcnabb]

Which is fine but to go public right now. (and also he could have done that with his agent friend instead of Mr. Paul).

yeh I’m not defending Fox, I wouldn’t have chosen the path he did but it is what it is.

 

[Tetsujin]

Its kinda hard to test character and leadwrship ubdwr rge armosphere fox couldnt handle it and checked out while sabonis i have seen has not been tge main option and gets a triple double best to get castle and vassel and move on

I, uh… is your keyboard broken?

 

[Tetsujin]

Fox is a business first kinda guy. If we were being completely objective, which franchise is better set up for long term success? It’s definitely the one with the 7’4 alien.

He left his friend agent even though he made more money than he would ever need. The result was a shoe deal. Now he wants to maximize his legacy. It’s harsh but probably the best outcome if you take all emotion out of it.

goes without saying but the shelf life of 7’4” guys with limbs like twigs isn’t exactly long so I can see why there’s a sense of urgency from all non-Kings parties involved lmfao

 

[bball_nomad]

80-68 Kings lead was the only nice thing about the game.
For a moment looked like Kings season was back on track, now it's a toxic wasteland.
"Getting back the joy of playing together"... yeah, right.

 

[jphilip]

I, uh… is your keyboard broken?

Uh kind of i apologize typing im on disabiliry right now.. i had a stroke in 2022 i messed it up when i get frustrated will work on it rhank you

 

[Caccia]

Uh kind of i apologize typing im on disabiliry right now.. i had a stroke in 2022 i messed it up when i get frustrated will work on it rhank you

You might try dictation on a mobile app. Most of the time I can figure out what you are saying!

 

[Tetsujin]

Uh kind of i apologize typing im on disabiliry right now.. i had a stroke in 2022 i messed it up when i get frustrated will work on it rhank you

Ah man, now I feel bad about kidding with you! Sorry to hear that. I just figured your autocorrect was going buggy or something!

 

[jphilip]

Ah man, now I feel bad about kidding with you! Sorry to hear that. I just figured your autocorrect was going buggy or something!

its ok bro, im kond of proud what i accomplished. Jat messing it up if i type slow and fazt due to frustrated and stuff

 

[Fantazija]

Yup. Sabonis is just asked to do way way too much. Not a single attempt at addressing this need is embarrassing and i need another break from these guys.

Last game -15 in 6+ minutes when Sabonis sits, this game -15 in 7+ minutes when he rested.So either play him 48 minutes or effing do something about