[Game] 41/82: Kings vs. Knicks 14 JAN 2026, 7pm PT/10pm ET

[NewArena]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2011671763491667988

Hmmm he always knows something before it goes down

 

[NewArena]

Relax. I really doubt we're going to end up significantly higher than where we currently stand, so I think the draft odds will still be in our favor at the end of the day.

Amen!

 

[NewArena]

We were second. After the three game win streak to nowhere we are 4th out of the best odds. Our next game is against Washington which we will probably win and put us with more wins than Brooklyn.

And yet, there’s still plenty of time for trades and a losing streak. Too early to know what the hell will happen

 

[NewArena]

Imagine paying this guy 60 million. Say what you want about Sabonis but even with damn near broken ribs this season, he was never dogging it like this. Poor Mike Brown

https://twitter.com/x/status/2011656592400216294

 

[The_Jamal]

At some point, gotta blame the other playoff teams for coming in here and not taking the game serious. Players and coaches don't tank or throw the game on purpose as much as Sactowndog wants us to.

Only bright side is this is the right time to be peaking for the vets, a few weeks before the deadline. Hopefully leads to a strong firesale

 

[Tetsujin]

At some point, gotta blame the other playoff teams for coming in here and not taking the game serious. Players and coaches don't tank or throw the game on purpose as much as Sactowndog wants us to.

Only bright side is this is the right time to be peaking for the vets, a few weeks before the deadline. Hopefully leads to a strong firesale

Plus with the flattened odds, it’s not quite as important to be the worst of the worst.

 

[dude12]

He held out until he got paid. He didnt take some kind of pet project. Mike isnt that generous.

I get your angle but regardless the kings resurrected Mike's career.

The Knicks will end it.

Mike walking away without saying anything to former players and coaches says a lot about character. Suck it up and shake hands man. You got a cheer coming back here. Thats all the respect you need.

I didnt want Mike fired. But I also dont feel sorry for him

Slander against Mike Brown. He’s been nothing but classy when asked about Sacramento including thanking Vivek. Has always taken the high road. Karin Lear said. He was invested in this city and organization and sounds like some of the players undermined him. So if he never interacted with players in the previous days or after the game, the dude is human. Also, more importantly, he’s a good coach. Now we are stuck with a guy who just isn’t. Effing great move by the organization.

 

[dude12]

Yeah, because Doug Christie or any of the Kings players were his former employer, right?

The dude is just being petty. Fox ain’t here anymore and Sabonis wasn’t even playing, whichever was the one that didn’t like him.

Far as I can tell, Brown got what he deserved. Especially so if not following the direction of his employer.

Lyon mean he got a better situation because he’s a good coach?

 

[GWD]

Slander against Mike Brown. He’s been nothing but classy when asked about Sacramento including thanking Vivek. Has always taken the high road. Karin Lear said. He was invested in this city and organization and sounds like some of the players undermined him. So if he never interacted with players in the previous days or after the game, the dude is human. Also, more importantly, he’s a good coach. Now we are stuck with a guy who just isn’t. Effing great move by the organization.

Subjective loyalty to Mike Brown is admirable. Others have a more objective view of his talents.

 

[The_Jamal]

DeRozan played 41 mins and Westbrook played 39. Watch Indiana strategically manage a top 3 pick and make another deep run next season, while developing a top young talent

Are we forgetting this same strategy has lead us to an 11-30 record? Its not like we've deviated from heavy vet minutes all year. They've been bad and theyre going to continue to be bad.

Unless we think the opposing team shooting 19% from 3 is a sustainable winning strategy, theres going to be a pile of losses coming.

Lakers shot 22% from 3. Rockets shot 23%. So unless we've magically become the greatest 3pt defense in NBA history, we're pretty much just hitting shooting variance from these other teams.

 

[SLAB]

Just like I felt when we fired him; Mike Brown can kick rocks. I want to lose every game. I’m glad we beat him.

 

[dude12]

Subjective loyalty to Mike Brown is admirable. Others have a more objective view of his talents.

You just continue to ignore everything that’s out there. That’s fine. I don’t agree with your unsubstantiated theories but you have Christie has your head coach. How is that going? That’s a rhetorical question because everyone knows.

 

[kingsboi]

Imagine paying this guy 60 million. Say what you want about Sabonis but even with damn near broken ribs this season, he was never dogging it like this. Poor Mike Brown

https://twitter.com/x/status/2011656592400216294

Slim somewhere in the woods of Georgia in his dungeon smiling cheek to cheek

 

[Rob-The-Great]

Slander against Mike Brown. He’s been nothing but classy when asked about Sacramento including thanking Vivek. Has always taken the high road. Karin Lear said. He was invested in this city and organization and sounds like some of the players undermined him. So if he never interacted with players in the previous days or after the game, the dude is human. Also, more importantly, he’s a good coach. Now we are stuck with a guy who just isn’t. Effing great move by the organization.

In other words, nothing i said was incorrect.

We have different ideas of vested. For instance. Divak is vested. Man got fired and still was sticking around because regardless he wants to see kings succeed.

Christie is vested, regardless on if he has the coach job or not, I garantee he will always root for the Kings success. If he was fired today he would root for kings tomorrow

Mike Brown was committed to seeing kings succeed his way, while he was doing his job, he was paid to do. After he was fired he disappeared.

Again I have nothing against Mike, I didnt want him fired, but hes not this bleeding purple magical figure your starting to create

 

[ShastaKingsFan]

Are we forgetting this same strategy has lead us to an 11-30 record? Its not like we've deviated from heavy vet minutes all year. They've been bad and theyre going to continue to be bad.

Unless we think the opposing team shooting 19% from 3 is a sustainable winning strategy, theres going to be a pile of losses coming.

Lakers shot 22% from 3. Rockets shot 23%. So unless we've magically become the greatest 3pt defense in NBA history, we're pretty much just hitting shooting variance from these other teams.

It's most likely going to come down to a 1-3 win/loss difference by game 82. Sometimes the general "pile of losses" leave it all to chance is not really a strategy to help your odds....we've seen it before. We'll see what everyone thinks about how they managed things at that point. Will the discussion by some, be on just what they tried to do in the last 10-15 games or so?

 

[QWERTYLICIOUS]

Players and coaches don't tank or throw the game on purpose as much as Sactowndog wants us to.

Ditto!

 

[QWERTYLICIOUS]

And yet, there’s still plenty of time for trades and a losing streak. Too early to know what the hell will happen

Ditto!

 

[The_Jamal]

It's most likely going to come down to a 1-3 win/loss difference by game 82. Sometimes the general "pile of losses" leave it all to chance is not really a strategy to help your odds....we've seen it before. We'll see what everyone thinks about how they managed things at that point. Will the discussion by some, be on just what they tried to do in the last 10-15 games or so?

Of course. But again, our strategy hasn't changed and we're 11-30. I don't think this win streak is a sign to come; we're just hitting incredibly lucky bad shooting for 3 games in a row from our opponents.

Playing the vets has lead us to our worst start in franchise history. That helps the tank, not hurting it

 

[ShastaKingsFan]

Of course. But again, our strategy hasn't changed and we're 11-30. I don't think this win streak is a sign to come; we're just hitting incredibly lucky bad shooting for 3 games in a row from our opponents.

Playing the vets has lead us to our worst start in franchise history. That helps the tank, not hurting it

When the strategy changes,...(and it will at some point this season), will the timing make sense for an organization that desperately needs to acquire and develop any younger potential talent that they can?

 

[Tetsujin]

Of course. But again, our strategy hasn't changed and we're 11-30. I don't think this win streak is a sign to come; we're just hitting incredibly lucky bad shooting for 3 games in a row from our opponents.

Playing the vets has lead us to our worst start in franchise history. That helps the tank, not hurting it

On the other hand, if Dylan Cardwell is so good that just playing him is turning other teams into generationally terrible shooters, tanking becomes less of a priority anyways

 

[pdxKingsFan]

You just continue to ignore everything that’s out there. That’s fine. I don’t agree with your unsubstantiated theories but you have Christie has your head coach. How is that going? That’s a rhetorical question because everyone knows.

There was nowhere to go with Mike Brown after that Detroit game. It just stopped working. I liked Mike and I will defend the guy as a good person and one of the better coaches we have had during our time in Sacramento. Hindsight being what it is maybe you prioritize moving Fox on the DL before he can make a public trade demand. Maybe you do that in the offseason before he even gets hurt. The guy wasn't re-signing with Sacramento, his wife and agent were in his ear nonstop about getting out. He finally broke down and agreed.

Maybe that kills whatever rift was developing in the locker room and the team doesn't go into a tailspin. Firing Brown was the easy answer. I don't know if it was the right answer but in that moment it seemed like the only way to save the season in which we didn't enter planning to rebuild.

 

[The_Jamal]

When the strategy changes,...(and it will at some point this season), will the timing make sense for an organization that desperately needs to acquire and develop any younger potential talent that they can?

Oh I agree here. Our strategy is dumb. Its just not fully harming us because we're bad in spite of it.

 

[ShastaKingsFan]

There was nowhere to go with Mike Brown after that Detroit game. It just stopped working. I liked Mike and I will defend the guy as a good person and one of the better coaches we have had during our time in Sacramento. Hindsight being what it is maybe you prioritize moving Fox on the DL before he can make a public trade demand. Maybe you do that in the offseason before he even gets hurt. The guy wasn't re-signing with Sacramento, his wife and agent were in his ear nonstop about getting out. He finally broke down and agreed.

Maybe that kills whatever rift was developing in the locker room and the team doesn't go into a tailspin. Firing Brown was the easy answer. I don't know if it was the right answer but in that moment it seemed like the only way to save the season in which we didn't enter planning to rebuild.

I can't blame a head coach, when his lead player falls asleep on the closing play to lose a critical game. That was Fox' fault, he knew it, but tried to act like it didn't matter. Cowardly

 

[pdxKingsFan]

I can't blame a head coach, when his lead player falls asleep on the closing play to lose a critical game. That was Fox' fault, he knew it, but tried to act like it didn't matter. Cowardly

Ultimately the players got him fired but when employees underperform usually their manager goes.

Looking at NY right now it's really interesting because they started slow, then got really hot, and are now playing below .500 since their mid December win streak was snapped (including dropping 6 of their last 8). They have a better roster and play in the banged up East. Zero excuse for losing to the Kings even if Brunson had to leave. But they are 10 games over .500 and second in the East. Still wonder what their potential is in the post-season.

Back to us, it would have been nice to resolve the Fox situation first of course. But it maybe would just be putting a bandage on a bigger wound. Monte failed us after the first year to build this team up. Every move we made was a step back. At least he didn't do any draft capital damage so if we get an impact player in this year's draft and we'll probably be a high lotto team next season as well, that could be two major pieces to build around plus a supporting cast of quality role players and whatever Keegan is.

 

[ShastaKingsFan]

Oh I agree here. Our strategy is dumb. Its just not fully harming us because we're bad in spite of it.

We won't know the full extent of the damage until after game 82

 

[Mr. S£im Citrus]

The team that currently has the worst record in the NBA has the same number of three-game winning streaks (1) as Sacramento. They actually have more 2+ game winning "streaks" (3). You guys are putting the cart before the horse, there's still plenty more games to lose.

 

[pdxKingsFan]

The team that currently has the worst record in the NBA has the same number of three-game winning streaks (1) as Sacramento. They actually have more 2+ game winning "streaks" (3). You guys are putting the cart before the horse, there's still plenty more games to lose.

Also Dallas last year. Spurs for that matter too.

I get that not falling too far from our spot is a concern, and its nice to guarantee fifth at worst, but jesus man. At least the fans in attendance got to have fun for a change.

 

[Caccia]

It's tough to root for a team when its own fans want it to lose.

 

[dude12]

In other words, nothing i said was incorrect.

We have different ideas of vested. For instance. Divak is vested. Man got fired and still was sticking around because regardless he wants to see kings succeed.

Christie is vested, regardless on if he has the coach job or not, I garantee he will always root for the Kings success. If he was fired today he would root for kings tomorrow

Mike Brown was committed to seeing kings succeed his way, while he was doing his job, he was paid to do. After he was fired he disappeared.

Again I have nothing against Mike, I didnt want him fired, but hes not this bleeding purple magical figure your starting to create

Your 2 examples were 2 long time legends associated with the organization. Do you really think he should have stuck around after that? Why? On all his interviews he was nothing but professional. The organization made the wrong choice. I’ll stick with that point of view and if you don’t agree, that’s fine. But what I do know, is we hired a not very good coach to take his place and they thought it was an upgrade. You live you learn, except in the Kings org which continues to make poor choices fairly consistently

 

[The_Jamal]

We won't know the full extent of the damage until after game 82

I guess, but our current plan of action has us on pace for 22 wins. That's really bad lol. And really, this 3 game win streak is fueled by atrocious shooting from the opposing teams, all under 23%.

And there seems to be a real culture setting in with the rookies especially. They're engaging with the fans, having fun, seem to have a great bond already. Cardwell hypes up the crowd after big defensive play. That kind of stuff still matters imo, because this isn't 2k and these guys are human. Yes, we need a top pick, but there also needs to be some sort of established culture here when that kid gets in. Can't have a toxic environment and hope that dude develops somehow out of it

Basically, I'm not worried at all. Team has proven to be really bad, trade deadline is coming. Now, if after the deadline 1. We didn't really trade any vets and 2. We're still not fully playing the young guys, that's a problem.