There's plenty of literature on it but it seems folks just like to get mad about it as if it's a real draft.
[Game] 33/82 Kings vs Mavericks 7pm PT, 10pm ET 12/30/2024
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Caccia
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I loved seeing Domantas Sabonis hit the floor multiple times to scramble for the ball under the basket.
Tetsujin
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Probably not related to the agents controlling the second round discussion but I felt absolutely no regret regarding the Kings turning the Hardy pick into two second rounders during tonight’s game.
Jdbraver137
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He does that every game. It’s the rest of the team that needs to do it
GWD
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Really nice to read the positivity in this thread. Well...from halftime on, anyway.
The change in team culture will take some time but sparks are flying. A fire cannot be far behind. There is just too much talent waiting to be ignited.
Speaking of that, Monk needs to go back to 6th man status. He is an igniter himself, an initiator, a game changer, a shot in the arm (ok, enough). As a starter, those traits don't fit as well as they do when the team need an energy and performance boost at some point in the game. Monk's statistics as a starter and the scoring hole the team finds itself early in some games might be alleviated with Ellis or Carter being utilized to stifle the opponent's offense. And it is not as if Ellis and Carter (projected) are liabilities on offense.
Hopefully, Coach Christie sees this and is not forced to play Malik for reasons unrelated to on-court performance.
The change in team culture will take some time but sparks are flying. A fire cannot be far behind. There is just too much talent waiting to be ignited.
Speaking of that, Monk needs to go back to 6th man status. He is an igniter himself, an initiator, a game changer, a shot in the arm (ok, enough). As a starter, those traits don't fit as well as they do when the team need an energy and performance boost at some point in the game. Monk's statistics as a starter and the scoring hole the team finds itself early in some games might be alleviated with Ellis or Carter being utilized to stifle the opponent's offense. And it is not as if Ellis and Carter (projected) are liabilities on offense.
Hopefully, Coach Christie sees this and is not forced to play Malik for reasons unrelated to on-court performance.
Srzly
G-League
Agree. I’d like to see Ellis start again over Monk. He has been so chaotic as a starter. Had a few good games to start, but 6 TOs last night and could have easily had another 1 or 2.
Going back to the Denver game (the seemingly start to the collapse of the season), he has had 26 TOs in the last 7 games.
I like Monk, but just think Keon helps give us what we need in the starting group next to Fox, Sabonis, and DDR. He and Keegan are a great defensive duo. Add Fox in when he is locked in on that end. Can help make up for Sabonis and DDR.
Siranthony
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twslam07
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Don't forget they were missing Lively & Marshall as well (and we were playing at home)! But yeah, this is about where I'm at after this game. I'm obviously happy that we won, but I would have hoped this would have been one of those games where we blow them out by 20+ points and rest our starters the last half of the 4th quarter.
I think it will be more telling to see how we play against PHI and MEM the next 2 games (both who are playing very well).
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We sorta did that from Q2-Q4. 87-63 during that span. We just decided to spot them 14 points in the 1Q, for no apparent reason.
Hopefully Doug figures out very quickly that in order for this team to survive, we're going to need A LOT of Keon and Carter in the rotation.
twslam07
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And hence why this is a meh win for me.
Let's see what we can do against some better NBA teams.
Rob-The-Great
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Brown litteraly started Murray as a rookie. Where is this coming from?
For sure. Team has to go 30-19, just to get to 44 wins, which *may* get you a play in spot. Pretty big hill left to climb.
But I will give them credit for rebounding after that 1Q and not just quitting. That easily could have been just us fully falling off the ship, if we got blown out by the DAL F squad.
ockingsfan
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Murray was a consensus top 3 or 4 pick in a very strong draft. Carter was the 13th pick in a weak draft.
Brown has been hesitant to give young guys like Davion, Kessler Edwards, Keon, Colby Jones, Orlando Robinson consistent minutes, preferring fringe veterans like Chris Duarte, McCaughlin, Alex Len and JaVale McGee.
Section 101
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Have you been around the last few years? Those have been total trap games.
ShastaKingsFan
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Still nothing to get up about. They took care of business, that's it. Lets see what they do against Philadelphia and Memphis
Are they "trap games" for us though? Traps are usually unexpected with some sort of element of surprise.
Maybe the surprise is that we keep falling for them...
Shaqfuey
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Lets see Carter play an NBA game before we add him to regular rotation minutes. Remember how good Colby Jones looks in Stockton.
iowamcnabb
Hall of Famer
That’s fair but Devin was a lottery pick and Colby went in the second round. To me it’s a near certainty most of his game translates. The shooting is a question mark until it isn’t and his handle is not super great either so he will have to watch the turnovers.
Shaqfuey
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I agree with that and also ready to buy into Carter, but my generalization is that people are too eager to anoint someone "King" on one performance. I need to see him more than once to get excited. I need to see the Kings win more than one to think we've turned the page, so to speak, as well. All that said, I am eager to see Carter play and see what direction Christie has to offer.
QWERTYLICIOUS
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HISTORIC! Doug Christie joins Rick Adelman and Mike Brown as only the third coach in the Sacramento era with a .500 or better record
@SacTownKid is correct. If a head coach is FIRED mid-season, his replacement (i.e. the "interim" head coach) will get credit for all remaining wins and losses. However, if a head coach simply misses a few games due to various possible reasons (i.e. "injury", sickness, personal matters, suspension), then any wins and losses accrued in his absence still gets credited to him, and not to the individual who steps up in his absence.
SacTownKid
Hall of Famer
Not sure anymore, haha. Probably watching the Kings toil. What's new.
captain bill
All-Star
Curious about this, this is the first I’ve even heard of it
SacTownKid
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Nah, if they think he is who he is he's got to step in immediately. No reason to wait, he's not raw or that young. They gave Keegan the chance and honestly Carter is actually a better prospect considering his on ball potential. The thing with Carter is he has role guy qualities that very rarely fail to translate on the defensive side. That along with him being as strong and athletic as he is provides major needs on paper that Colby never did. This is what made him a top 5 pick consideration at times vs. being a 2nd rounder. Even if Carter doesn't put up 29 ppg, you instantly become more athletic, more physical, have another pick and roll handler, get rebounding, defense, etc. Obviously you ease him in but even the competition isn't there with the performances of some of the other guards.
https://www.vice.com/en/article/the-second-round-of-the-nba-draft-is-broken-but-not-beyond-repair/
2016 article about agents directing teams not to draft their players after pick 40. It’s only gotten worse in the decade since.
captain bill
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That makes a ton of sense and can’t really fault players or agents for that. It’s nice for the team to get those players locked in cheap but obviously if they perform that’s a ton of money left on the table for them.
Vinny Basketballerino
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Does anybody think Doug Christie is not going to be a good defensive coach?
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