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Absolutely. I guess people like to give away stuff for free. (If you have any $$ out there you want to give out for free, please let me know.) We are so generous on this board that we want to give players away when it's not even clear that we have to.
And I still don't get the Bosh thing. He's not an inside post player. He's not a good defender. He's soft. Sounds exactly the opposite of what we need. So who else is out ther that we don't need? Maybe we can give away somebody for him too...
And I still don't get the Bosh thing. He's not an inside post player. He's not a good defender. He's soft. Sounds exactly the opposite of what we need. So who else is out ther that we don't need? Maybe we can give away somebody for him too...
I agree with this. While I'm enthusiastic about the Kings once-in-a-generation opportunity to sign a marquee FA, I honestly think LBJ is the best fit. Now, before any jumps on me, I think this team is built in a way that complements him very effectively:
Evans- an all-star level hybrid guard who is extremely unselfish and plays an excellent team game. Evans and Lebron could trade off ball handling duties and would play to each other's strengths.
KMart- a high efficiency shooting guard who plays well off the ball. If Lebron needs someone to kick out to on a drive, I can't imagine anyone better than this.
Thompson- a hustle, energy PF who gets a lot of points cleaning up the boards and getting put backs. Puts a lot of energy in on defense. He always seems to be lurking around the basket and picks up a lot points when defenses collapse on driving players and leave him alone. Reminds me a lot of Marion on the Suns- a guy who will contribute a lot to a team, without needing a lot of plays called for him. Perfect player to complement a team with other players who need a lot of touches.
Hawes- can play under the basket, but more importantly can step out, leaving the lane open while stretching defenses who have to keep him honest from 20 feet. A good complimentary player to this group.
Lebron-obvious. But why the Kings? 1- this team is built. The owners and GM have a proven record of committing to winning, and have shown that they know how to put together a contender. A great coaching staff who has shown a high level of competence so far. A good core of players to work with.
2- Publicity. Yeah, it matters. But the Kings would be a great story line- King James becomes a King, joins Kobe's rivals, the one team that almost stopped the 3peat, and gives them a chance for revenge. Media shouldn't be a problem- it will follow him everywhere he goes, and I think this team would win over the Bay Area pretty heavily as well.
Wow seeing a winning team again in Sacramento really is making me delirious...
Evans- an all-star level hybrid guard who is extremely unselfish and plays an excellent team game. Evans and Lebron could trade off ball handling duties and would play to each other's strengths.
KMart- a high efficiency shooting guard who plays well off the ball. If Lebron needs someone to kick out to on a drive, I can't imagine anyone better than this.
Thompson- a hustle, energy PF who gets a lot of points cleaning up the boards and getting put backs. Puts a lot of energy in on defense. He always seems to be lurking around the basket and picks up a lot points when defenses collapse on driving players and leave him alone. Reminds me a lot of Marion on the Suns- a guy who will contribute a lot to a team, without needing a lot of plays called for him. Perfect player to complement a team with other players who need a lot of touches.
Hawes- can play under the basket, but more importantly can step out, leaving the lane open while stretching defenses who have to keep him honest from 20 feet. A good complimentary player to this group.
Lebron-obvious. But why the Kings? 1- this team is built. The owners and GM have a proven record of committing to winning, and have shown that they know how to put together a contender. A great coaching staff who has shown a high level of competence so far. A good core of players to work with.
2- Publicity. Yeah, it matters. But the Kings would be a great story line- King James becomes a King, joins Kobe's rivals, the one team that almost stopped the 3peat, and gives them a chance for revenge. Media shouldn't be a problem- it will follow him everywhere he goes, and I think this team would win over the Bay Area pretty heavily as well.
Wow seeing a winning team again in Sacramento really is making me delirious...
Then again, it's a hypocritical stance. If you don't want to focus on developing and focusing on Hawes' offensive abilities and primarily want your starting center to be a tough rebounding and defensive presence, then Bosh is NOT going to give you that. Bosh will give you a soft face up big man who can score better than any post player the team has right now. He's essentially a young KG without the defense, rebounding, or passing ability. That doesn't satisfy the criticisms of what this current frontline is lacking.
Now, if you are willing to forget those issues just to get more talent, then fine. But don't go around saying a guy doesn't fit because of defense and toughness and then want to add a guy who isn't tough and isn't a good defender.
Now, if you are willing to forget those issues just to get more talent, then fine. But don't go around saying a guy doesn't fit because of defense and toughness and then want to add a guy who isn't tough and isn't a good defender.
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The difference is in the overall talent. Hawes and JT put together will never reach the same level that Bosh is at. He is a perennial all-star and has been since his 3rd year in the league, something that Hawes and JT will never be.
A young Tim Duncan or KG (2 way players) will not walk through that door any time soon but what you potentially can get is 24/12 perennial all-star and then you can surround him with role players that do exactly what he doesn't (play D, block shots and plus help Bosh out on the boards)
I just cannot understand how people cannot see that you can build a conteder around Evans and Bosh for years to come. Its a perfect inside-outside duo and if you surround them with the right role players you are contending for the next decade or so.
A young Tim Duncan or KG (2 way players) will not walk through that door any time soon but what you potentially can get is 24/12 perennial all-star and then you can surround him with role players that do exactly what he doesn't (play D, block shots and plus help Bosh out on the boards)
I just cannot understand how people cannot see that you can build a conteder around Evans and Bosh for years to come. Its a perfect inside-outside duo and if you surround them with the right role players you are contending for the next decade or so.
How can you keep saying the Bosh isnt the rebounder that KG or whoever is when the man has avg double digit boards 3 out of the last 4 seasons.
Bosh is avg 11 boards per game THIS season, so excuse me if I say he fits the bill in that category.
He is active and longand as the other poster stated, that would give us 2 superstar players. Bosh is at least a possibility here in sac.
The stud defensive center, shot blocker, scorer like Howard is NOT A POSSIBILITY, so you get the next best thing you can, and Bosh fills the bill.
I would settle for kaman, but Bosh makes us a contender IMO for the next decade. Remember Kobe is getting up there, Duncan is gettin gup there. The West is there for the taking with as young as the Kings are if they could land a stud like Bosh who is YOUNG.
You only get so many chances at adding a player like Bosh. When it is gone, it is gone.
The stars have lined up, Bosh is a FA this Summer, and it is PERFECT timing for the Kings.
Bosh is avg 11 boards per game THIS season, so excuse me if I say he fits the bill in that category.
He is active and longand as the other poster stated, that would give us 2 superstar players. Bosh is at least a possibility here in sac.
The stud defensive center, shot blocker, scorer like Howard is NOT A POSSIBILITY, so you get the next best thing you can, and Bosh fills the bill.
I would settle for kaman, but Bosh makes us a contender IMO for the next decade. Remember Kobe is getting up there, Duncan is gettin gup there. The West is there for the taking with as young as the Kings are if they could land a stud like Bosh who is YOUNG.
You only get so many chances at adding a player like Bosh. When it is gone, it is gone.
The stars have lined up, Bosh is a FA this Summer, and it is PERFECT timing for the Kings.
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It's not just about talent though, it's about the kind of talent. Do you think the wizards, warriors, clippers, or raptors lack talent? No. They lack the right kind of talent. Look at Bosh's team. They have talent, and Bosh is having a career year, but they aren't winning (their record is 11-17). Why? Primarily because despite their offensive prowess, they are one of the worst defensive teams in the league. All that firepower doesn't matter.
Again, despite Bosh's superior talent, is he going to help the kings? Do the kings need help on offense? Or, do they need to improve where they are deficient? They are currently 5th in the NBA in scoring, averaging nearly 105 PPG. That's top 5, behind the Hawks, Warrios, Nuggets, and Suns. Does adding Bosh and his offense really make the team better? What kind of team do you want to see?
For me, I see this team's turnaround from these main reasons:
- effort
- improved defense/rebounding
- coaching
- talent
Last season, there was talent, but the other factors were missing, and we watched a 17 win season. Talent doesn't = contenders.
So the question I think that matters is this: do you sacrifice the direction of the team in order to add more talent, no matter if it's the wrong kind of talent or not? Having seen current teams in that situation, I think no. I think if you want to add talent, then fine, but make it the kind that improves your team the most. Is Bosh a good big man? Yes. Is he better than Hawes or JT? Yes. Do I think his superior offensive talent will make the kings into contenders? No.
Because if that were the case, then Bosh would have contended before. In his 6 seasons, he's made the playoffs twice and lost both times in the first round.
I just cannot understand how people cannot see that it takes more than all star selections to build a contender. Too many times I have seen good players struggle to win because of the wrong teammates or the wrong coach.
Would I trade JT or Hawes straight up for Bosh? Yeah, in a second. But it doesn't make the Kings contenders. It doesn't solve their problems. It just means they score more while still giving up plays inside, and still getting out muscled against the better teams down low. Is that the style that works? Is it why the team is changing direction? Are the raptors the team you want to watch because of their offense?
Again, despite Bosh's superior talent, is he going to help the kings? Do the kings need help on offense? Or, do they need to improve where they are deficient? They are currently 5th in the NBA in scoring, averaging nearly 105 PPG. That's top 5, behind the Hawks, Warrios, Nuggets, and Suns. Does adding Bosh and his offense really make the team better? What kind of team do you want to see?
For me, I see this team's turnaround from these main reasons:
- effort
- improved defense/rebounding
- coaching
- talent
Last season, there was talent, but the other factors were missing, and we watched a 17 win season. Talent doesn't = contenders.
So the question I think that matters is this: do you sacrifice the direction of the team in order to add more talent, no matter if it's the wrong kind of talent or not? Having seen current teams in that situation, I think no. I think if you want to add talent, then fine, but make it the kind that improves your team the most. Is Bosh a good big man? Yes. Is he better than Hawes or JT? Yes. Do I think his superior offensive talent will make the kings into contenders? No.
Because if that were the case, then Bosh would have contended before. In his 6 seasons, he's made the playoffs twice and lost both times in the first round.
I just cannot understand how people cannot see that it takes more than all star selections to build a contender. Too many times I have seen good players struggle to win because of the wrong teammates or the wrong coach.
Would I trade JT or Hawes straight up for Bosh? Yeah, in a second. But it doesn't make the Kings contenders. It doesn't solve their problems. It just means they score more while still giving up plays inside, and still getting out muscled against the better teams down low. Is that the style that works? Is it why the team is changing direction? Are the raptors the team you want to watch because of their offense?
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Showtime,
i could not agree with your premise more. i agree you need the right type of player, and in this case i think Bosh would be prefect. Partly because I think coming to SACRAMENTO is the perfect place for him.
Remember Webber wasnt exactly Mr. Congeniality prior to coming to Sac.
But look at our team right now. They remind me more of our beloved Kings of old then any team I have ever seen. They get along extremely well. Our bench kicks the other team's bench's rear almost every night. there is no anymosity, no selfishness. Bosh would be coming to a team and just fit into that mold. The imagine how the city would explode again. That Arco thunder would return.
How many more butts would be in seats the next day after Bosh's arrival in Sac.
Cmon Petrie, no excuses, just get it done.
i could not agree with your premise more. i agree you need the right type of player, and in this case i think Bosh would be prefect. Partly because I think coming to SACRAMENTO is the perfect place for him.
Remember Webber wasnt exactly Mr. Congeniality prior to coming to Sac.
But look at our team right now. They remind me more of our beloved Kings of old then any team I have ever seen. They get along extremely well. Our bench kicks the other team's bench's rear almost every night. there is no anymosity, no selfishness. Bosh would be coming to a team and just fit into that mold. The imagine how the city would explode again. That Arco thunder would return.
How many more butts would be in seats the next day after Bosh's arrival in Sac.
Cmon Petrie, no excuses, just get it done.
Of course it takes more than all-star selection to build a contender but outside of the Detroit Pistons all the other championship winners have had 2 perrenial all-stars on their team.
As I keep saying, you add Bosh to PF and Reke at PG and you surrond them with right role players and you are a contender. Regardless of whether you think Bosh is soft or not. Fact is that it takes 2 perennial all-star level players to win the chamionship! We have one and if you pair him with someone else you are a chance.
Are you telling me that a line up (that is very achievable by the way) of
Gortat
Bosh
Greene
Garcia
Evans
JT
Casspi
Udrih
would not be a contender in a year or 2?!
Defensively the weakest link in that team in Bosh everyone else is a good to very good defender. There is a massive potential for growth there both offensively and defensively.
You are right that our problem at the moment is not scoring but for us to be even a chance of winning Evans needs to have a good game. In play offs when the points are harder to come by, you need 2 studs to ge the inside out game going.
You keep talking about how in his 6 seasons Raptors have only made the play offs once. Same thing could have been said about Garnett. His teams were perennial losers apart from one good year when they knocked us out. Is that on KG?! Even when his teams were sucking it up there wouldn't have been a GM in his right mind that wouldn't have loved to have KG on his team.
While not as good as KG in his prime, same thing applies to Bosh. There wouldn't be a team in the league that wouldn't want him despite all the soft labels and lack of defence.
Fact is Bosh is a star in this league and when you have a chance to build around a star you ALWAYS take that. I think Maloofs' wet dreams would be about pairing Bosh with Tyreke. Its very unlikely to happen for a number of reasons but no one can convince me that we wouldn't be all over it like a rash if there was a chance we could get him.
You would burn just about anyone not named Tyreke to get Bosh on your roster and then you have the strongest foundation to build upon. It much easier to find role players that fit than it is to find 2 superstar level talents (Bosh just below that level but not too far off)
As I keep saying, you add Bosh to PF and Reke at PG and you surrond them with right role players and you are a contender. Regardless of whether you think Bosh is soft or not. Fact is that it takes 2 perennial all-star level players to win the chamionship! We have one and if you pair him with someone else you are a chance.
Are you telling me that a line up (that is very achievable by the way) of
Gortat
Bosh
Greene
Garcia
Evans
JT
Casspi
Udrih
would not be a contender in a year or 2?!
Defensively the weakest link in that team in Bosh everyone else is a good to very good defender. There is a massive potential for growth there both offensively and defensively.
You are right that our problem at the moment is not scoring but for us to be even a chance of winning Evans needs to have a good game. In play offs when the points are harder to come by, you need 2 studs to ge the inside out game going.
You keep talking about how in his 6 seasons Raptors have only made the play offs once. Same thing could have been said about Garnett. His teams were perennial losers apart from one good year when they knocked us out. Is that on KG?! Even when his teams were sucking it up there wouldn't have been a GM in his right mind that wouldn't have loved to have KG on his team.
While not as good as KG in his prime, same thing applies to Bosh. There wouldn't be a team in the league that wouldn't want him despite all the soft labels and lack of defence.
Fact is Bosh is a star in this league and when you have a chance to build around a star you ALWAYS take that. I think Maloofs' wet dreams would be about pairing Bosh with Tyreke. Its very unlikely to happen for a number of reasons but no one can convince me that we wouldn't be all over it like a rash if there was a chance we could get him.
You would burn just about anyone not named Tyreke to get Bosh on your roster and then you have the strongest foundation to build upon. It much easier to find role players that fit than it is to find 2 superstar level talents (Bosh just below that level but not too far off)
Basketball 101 says:
1) great "little"
+
2) great "big"
=
3) instant 50 win type team
then you just fill in around the edges.
Anybody else notice what happened even with a player as great as Kobe when a) Shaq left. And b) when Pau arrived?
You need that second consistent weapon. And you need him inside. Bsoh is not only the best of those type players potentially available, he's got the best game to compliment a Tyreke. The very hint of softness about his offensive game (jumpshooter) would work to create space with Reke's relentless attacking of the rim. And more importantly, from the quotes/interviews this year its clear he has that sense of self consequence, that desire to win that is so key when looking for a foundational player. Same sort of thing that Webb had -- Webb knew he was great, wanted so badly to prove it and to win to validate his career. You hear the same sort of thing out of Bosh now. Puts him at a different level than a guy like Jefferson who has just been worn down by incessant mega-losing since he entered the league. He would like to win I have no doubt. But its different than a guy feeling he should win, that he has to win to justify himself. That sort of self consciousness can be invaluable and make guys willing to do whatever it takes.
1) great "little"
+
2) great "big"
=
3) instant 50 win type team
then you just fill in around the edges.
Anybody else notice what happened even with a player as great as Kobe when a) Shaq left. And b) when Pau arrived?
You need that second consistent weapon. And you need him inside. Bsoh is not only the best of those type players potentially available, he's got the best game to compliment a Tyreke. The very hint of softness about his offensive game (jumpshooter) would work to create space with Reke's relentless attacking of the rim. And more importantly, from the quotes/interviews this year its clear he has that sense of self consequence, that desire to win that is so key when looking for a foundational player. Same sort of thing that Webb had -- Webb knew he was great, wanted so badly to prove it and to win to validate his career. You hear the same sort of thing out of Bosh now. Puts him at a different level than a guy like Jefferson who has just been worn down by incessant mega-losing since he entered the league. He would like to win I have no doubt. But its different than a guy feeling he should win, that he has to win to justify himself. That sort of self consciousness can be invaluable and make guys willing to do whatever it takes.
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So what STAR has Bosh been paired with in Toronto. And you can also not count year 1 or 2 for him, because he wasnt a STAR at that point in his career either.
Tyreke and Bosh are 2 STUDS. Name the teams in this league that have 2 legit studs, and they are likely title contenders.
I will say that Jamison looked pretty damn good with the Wizards and Arenas though. But that is the exception, plus Arenas inuries.
Tyreke and Bosh are 2 STUDS. Name the teams in this league that have 2 legit studs, and they are likely title contenders.
I will say that Jamison looked pretty damn good with the Wizards and Arenas though. But that is the exception, plus Arenas inuries.
The same could be said of Pau in Memphis, or Webb in Washington, or even Sir Charles in Philly (although in that last one there wasn't much talent around him). KG always got those questions in Minny. But now take them out of those environments, pair them wiht great perimeter players, and its game over.
And who was another stud that Bosh has been paired with in Toronto?!
Also which one of the players in Bosh's current team are actually good fit to cover his weaknesses?!
I look at Toronto and I see talented roster that just does not complement each other. Who is Bosh's wingman?! Is he a genuine stud in this league? Who is the defensive role player? A shot blocker and defensive inside player?
Toronto is a classic case of all out attack team where the pieces just do not complement each other.
Now tell me if you put Tyreke at PG and Bosh at PF, get a defensive center with limited offensive game who plays good D, grabs rebounds and blocks shots next to Bosh. Add a scrappy SG who can shoot, play solid D, handle the ball and pass but doesn't need the ball in his hands to be effective, (a jack of all trades, master of none) and a long athletic SF, that plays good defence, is a good shooter and can also mix it up a bit offensively and tell me if you end up with a team that is 11-17 or do you end up with a contender?!
Also which one of the players in Bosh's current team are actually good fit to cover his weaknesses?!
I look at Toronto and I see talented roster that just does not complement each other. Who is Bosh's wingman?! Is he a genuine stud in this league? Who is the defensive role player? A shot blocker and defensive inside player?
Toronto is a classic case of all out attack team where the pieces just do not complement each other.
Now tell me if you put Tyreke at PG and Bosh at PF, get a defensive center with limited offensive game who plays good D, grabs rebounds and blocks shots next to Bosh. Add a scrappy SG who can shoot, play solid D, handle the ball and pass but doesn't need the ball in his hands to be effective, (a jack of all trades, master of none) and a long athletic SF, that plays good defence, is a good shooter and can also mix it up a bit offensively and tell me if you end up with a team that is 11-17 or do you end up with a contender?!
Bosh's roster weaknesses are the same as ours but intensified. They have never had an inside defensive presence. They went after a playmaking Hedo when they already have a play making PG in Calederon. They have DeRozan who is a rook, and their own version of a soft jump shooting center in Bargnani. All through that, it's been Bosh carrying that team. You match a great big like Bosh with Reke and special things will happen.. Then we don't make the same mistake and we find our defensive big man (Okafor, Dalambert, DeAndre Jordan, Haywood, Dampier, Camby, Brook Lopez (probably no chance), Biedrens, Noah, Hibbert, you could make a case for even JaVale McGree on wizards who is a project, or even a Chris Kaman if you want a more balaced Center).
You can have one average/poor big man defender but we cannot continue with two. We don't ask that they lead the league in blocks or rebounds. We ask to not get pushed around in the paint and to make people think twice about coming into it and thinking they can do what they want.
You can have one average/poor big man defender but we cannot continue with two. We don't ask that they lead the league in blocks or rebounds. We ask to not get pushed around in the paint and to make people think twice about coming into it and thinking they can do what they want.
The bigs that have been winning titles have been Duncan, Shaq, KG, Olajuwon, Ben Wallace, Rodman, Kareem, Parrish, Moses Malone. The Lakers of last year and the Bulls first 3 peat are the only teams without one of these guys but generally there is a stud defender at the four or five for most every championship team. Most of the time that guy is a beast on the offensive end as well but regardless I don't think Bosh fits in that group. It would be fun to get him and I'd trade him for KMart but I don't think he's the perfect fit or anything. I'd rather get Okafor and keep KMart.
Now tell me if you put Tyreke at PG and Bosh at PF, get a defensive center with limited offensive game who plays good D, grabs rebounds and blocks shots next to Bosh. Add a scrappy SG who can shoot, play solid D, handle the ball and pass but doesn't need the ball in his hands to be effective, (a jack of all trades, master of none) and a long athletic SF, that plays good defence, is a good shooter and can also mix it up a bit offensively and tell me if you end up with a team that is 11-17 or do you end up with a contender?!
Obviously we'd likely have to sacrifice KMart, Hawes, KT, Beno, Noc, and probably a pick at the minimum to make it happen ( Beno and Noc for cap space assuming we'd want that group intact past Bosh's FA status) but the thought of that starting five with JT and Green as first off the bench makes me a little dizzy.
It's like saying you want to build a contender around Peja (younger, healthy version) and Tyreke. No thanks. You ending up eating up your cap space on SOFTNESS. I'll take a lower priced tough guy who maxes out on D with less stats over Bosh, a guy who will get the stats and not the wins (See Toronto's record) and who will kill your team with the cap.
I'm confused with all this adoration over Bosh. He's a good offensive player, but he's not a good defensive player. This team needs help at the center position, not the PF position. Bosh isn't a superstar. He's not even an impact player on Toronto. Look at the difference that Evans and Casspi have made on the team this year. Evans is what I call an impact player. Bosh isn't. A good player yes, but not a difference maker by himself.
I would wager with anyone that adding Okafor would add up to more wins for this team than swapping Thompson for Bosh would. This team doesn't have a problem scoring. It has a problem with defense. And Bosh would do nothing to help in that area. As a matter of fact I'll predict that in two years Thompson will be a better defender than Bosh is right now. I admit thats probably not saying much, but if true, and Thompson continues to improve at the same rate, he'll also be matching Bosh's offensive numbers.
This team has good chemistry right now. They all like and root for one another. For the most part its a very unselfish team. Why screw with that chemistry for the sake of adding someone with more marquee value.
I would wager with anyone that adding Okafor would add up to more wins for this team than swapping Thompson for Bosh would. This team doesn't have a problem scoring. It has a problem with defense. And Bosh would do nothing to help in that area. As a matter of fact I'll predict that in two years Thompson will be a better defender than Bosh is right now. I admit thats probably not saying much, but if true, and Thompson continues to improve at the same rate, he'll also be matching Bosh's offensive numbers.
This team has good chemistry right now. They all like and root for one another. For the most part its a very unselfish team. Why screw with that chemistry for the sake of adding someone with more marquee value.
And who was another stud that Bosh has been paired with in Toronto?!
Also which one of the players in Bosh's current team are actually good fit to cover his weaknesses?!
I look at Toronto and I see talented roster that just does not complement each other. Who is Bosh's wingman?! Is he a genuine stud in this league? Who is the defensive role player? A shot blocker and defensive inside player?
Toronto is a classic case of all out attack team where the pieces just do not complement each other.
Now tell me if you put Tyreke at PG and Bosh at PF, get a defensive center with limited offensive game who plays good D, grabs rebounds and blocks shots next to Bosh. Add a scrappy SG who can shoot, play solid D, handle the ball and pass but doesn't need the ball in his hands to be effective, (a jack of all trades, master of none) and a long athletic SF, that plays good defence, is a good shooter and can also mix it up a bit offensively and tell me if you end up with a team that is 11-17 or do you end up with a contender?!
Also which one of the players in Bosh's current team are actually good fit to cover his weaknesses?!
I look at Toronto and I see talented roster that just does not complement each other. Who is Bosh's wingman?! Is he a genuine stud in this league? Who is the defensive role player? A shot blocker and defensive inside player?
Toronto is a classic case of all out attack team where the pieces just do not complement each other.
Now tell me if you put Tyreke at PG and Bosh at PF, get a defensive center with limited offensive game who plays good D, grabs rebounds and blocks shots next to Bosh. Add a scrappy SG who can shoot, play solid D, handle the ball and pass but doesn't need the ball in his hands to be effective, (a jack of all trades, master of none) and a long athletic SF, that plays good defence, is a good shooter and can also mix it up a bit offensively and tell me if you end up with a team that is 11-17 or do you end up with a contender?!
You know, if you can get the guy for free, nobody is going to turn that down. But we know there is no free lunch. The Kings would have to max out on their cap space. That's the cost. The question is: Do you want to max out your cap space to acquire softness? You're acting like we can just add this guy and get whomever we want down the line. Doesn't work that way. You're eating up the financial pie with sofness, leaving less financial room to acquire toughness.
Errrrr.......Pretty sure Lakers of last year have had this all-star big man that goes by the name of Pau Gasol.
Interestingly enough Gasol also carries a label of being soft but he sure is hell of a lot important to the Lakers. In fact the Lakers became genuine contenders when they got Gasol. Before that they missed the play offs for a while or barely made them...Kobe couldn't do it alone.
Interestingly enough Gasol also carries a label of being soft but he sure is hell of a lot important to the Lakers. In fact the Lakers became genuine contenders when they got Gasol. Before that they missed the play offs for a while or barely made them...Kobe couldn't do it alone.
Rubbish!
Peja has never been and never will be a perennial all-star and he has never been nor will he ever be a an inside player.
Funnily enough the team that we did have as contenders has Peja as an ouside wingman to Webber and it was the best team of those years. With a bit of luck those Kings would have a ring.
Peja has never been and never will be a perennial all-star and he has never been nor will he ever be a an inside player.
Funnily enough the team that we did have as contenders has Peja as an ouside wingman to Webber and it was the best team of those years. With a bit of luck those Kings would have a ring.
Well I believe the Kings had the best record in the NBA the season when Webber was out for so long, and Peja was not just shooting the outside 3, he was driving as well and he was clearly the best player on the Kings that season. Then when Webber returned the team went to crap because it was no longer Peja (their best player) leading the way.
Is KG considered a center?? Didnt Boston win a title?