Race for ROY - revised title
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I am actually not at all sure of that.
That he'd win it, yes. The second part....
Consider:
Jennings
25.6pts (.482 FG% .519 3pt% .745 FT%) 4.6reb 5.9ast 1.1stl 0.2blk 3.6TO
Tyreke since he was unleashed (Kevin went down):
24.0ppg (.479 FG% .438 3pt% .840 FT%) 6.0reb 5.8ast 1.3stl 0.7blk 3.2TO
You take out those first 5 games deferring/figuring it out and this is a legendary race.
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Yeah this race aint over yet but if it was Jennings has the edge. Hey we got a keeper in Tyreke, we can feel confident enough to give props to the Bucks for their pick. Frank Hughes has Jennings #10 in the MVP race. If he keeps up this pace he will be giving CP and Deron a run for one of the unofficial top PG spots. That W/L is the most impressive stat. Same is true for Tyreke, and the turn around for the Kings is as dramatic considering they had the worst record in the league last year.
It may be true that Jennings will always get the attention, like CP does over Deron but I seriously doubt that Jazz fans care, and I doubt Sacramento fans will either.
It may be true that Jennings will always get the attention, like CP does over Deron but I seriously doubt that Jazz fans care, and I doubt Sacramento fans will either.
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jennings with 26 points tonight... only had 2 assists because ridnour was beasting out there with 13/12 and 0 turnovers... the bucks a re 8-3 without redd.... jennings has ROY locked up... tyreke has been awesome(not to be confused with hawesome) lately but jennings is playing like a man among boys in this rookie class... he could be an all-star reserve this year if the bucks keep winning like this. what other pgs are in the east leading their team to victory without their best player? the bulls have been good but rose hasnt been playing nearly as well as jennings has so far this season.
he is playing like the 2nd or 3rd best pg in the nba right now. the bucks have a better record than the celtics right now... they would be 4th in the east if the season ended today.
he is playing like the 2nd or 3rd best pg in the nba right now. the bucks have a better record than the celtics right now... they would be 4th in the east if the season ended today.
I am going to assume that it is also 4 in the morning where you are...and you are just as sleepy and delirious as i am at the moment. Yeah...thats gotta be it.
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ditto... jennings has been an absolute beast. if he had been drafted higher people wouldve thought that the gm was crazy but he has been amazing. i dont see where he'll have any problems maintaining this pace unless redd messes it up for the team or jennings gets injured.
that boy has a grown mans game.... though collison has been playing well with chris paul out. he put up 22/11 against the hawks today. and is averaging 15/5 for the last 5 games...
that boy has a grown mans game.... though collison has been playing well with chris paul out. he put up 22/11 against the hawks today. and is averaging 15/5 for the last 5 games...
It's not that I don't know what you mean. You obviously don't understand the psyche of a large number of Kings fans which is why I asked the question I asked.
Kings players do not always get the national recognition they deserve. And Kings fans got fed up with that a very long time ago. If you think they'll be satisfied with having Tyreke even if he doesn't garner the national exposure he deserves, you're sadly mistaken.
Kings players do not always get the national recognition they deserve. And Kings fans got fed up with that a very long time ago. If you think they'll be satisfied with having Tyreke even if he doesn't garner the national exposure he deserves, you're sadly mistaken.
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which is so funny to me because why would a player even want to win most improved player? that basically says that you sucked last year and now you are average... maybe slightly above average....
only 2 star players have won it and that was the season that they became stars, mcgrady in 2001 and arenas in 2003... well maybe j-oneal in 2002 i guess but everyone else have been average players.
only 2 star players have won it and that was the season that they became stars, mcgrady in 2001 and arenas in 2003... well maybe j-oneal in 2002 i guess but everyone else have been average players.
You can disagree all you like. I've read the comments of Kings fans here and on other Kings boards since 2001. You're making an assumption that is simply not borne out by facts, and distorting the premise in the process.
Quality and results are indeed important but if the national media does not give proper recognition to said quality and results there will be Kings fans sharpening their pitchforks and lighting their torches. It's happened before.
I am not arguing that quality and results are not more important than media attention. What I'm pointing out is that it won't matter to a certain segment of the Kings fan base how good someone is and what the results are IF they do not garner us at least 15 minutes of fame on SportsCenter. History proves me correct.
Quality and results are indeed important but if the national media does not give proper recognition to said quality and results there will be Kings fans sharpening their pitchforks and lighting their torches. It's happened before.
I am not arguing that quality and results are not more important than media attention. What I'm pointing out is that it won't matter to a certain segment of the Kings fan base how good someone is and what the results are IF they do not garner us at least 15 minutes of fame on SportsCenter. History proves me correct.
Looks like we can both disagree all we want. Like I said earlier there will always be complaints, all I'm saying is that fans and the organization will be more satisfied with an unsung quality player than someone that garners a lot of attention with less results. No way to really know for sure unless we had parallel realities.
EDIT: Actually your position may be more prevalent here, I don't know as I haven't been around here long. I know many Kings fans though and none have ever expressed any sort of concern about individual media coverage for Kings players so maybe it's just a narrow subset of Kings fans that hold it to be so important, possibly internet driven.
EDIT: Actually your position may be more prevalent here, I don't know as I haven't been around here long. I know many Kings fans though and none have ever expressed any sort of concern about individual media coverage for Kings players so maybe it's just a narrow subset of Kings fans that hold it to be so important, possibly internet driven.
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This is entirely possible, but I find it interesting that you assume that to be the most likely explanation. Interesting because it seems statistically unlikely that you personally know as many Kings Fans that post on this board, which suggests to me that the more likely proposition is that you may be extrapolating the "many Kings fans" that you know as a microcosm for Kings Fans in general.
Your mileage, clearly, varies.
Your mileage, clearly, varies.
Actually I merely presented that as a possibility, never making any assumptions. You are the one here that has made assumptions. Also I find it strange that you wouldn't entertain the idea that a certain point of view could be more prevalent and even inspired by the internet. As NBA internet forum regulars you are in a subset of Kings fans. I submit that many of your positions may not be shared by fans of the Kings that don't frequent fan sites.
Well, I don't know where these other Kings fans are, but I know many many Kings fans, particularly at my job site, who do not post here (or on any message board). The majority (not to say they all do) feel very much the same way that others here have stated. It could be the types of fans everyone knows. Sometimes we get to know fans that have much the same thoughts and/or feelings as we do ourselves. Just a thought.
I think that Chupacabra expresses best what many Kings fans feel, especially those in Sacramento. I think Sacramento is so used to being disregarded, particularly by those in southern CA, that we take umbrage when we have anything that should get recognition, and we still don't get it. Many people see it as a lack of respect.
So the fans your know are more concerned with individual media coverage than quality players and wins? I don't know what to say then. You may be right- like minds attract. Clearly there are vast differences in Kings fans- much more so than I would have though.
Speaking of which what are the other Kings Forums that are worth a peek? Are there other ones that have a decent amount of members?
Speaking of which what are the other Kings Forums that are worth a peek? Are there other ones that have a decent amount of members?