Measurements

[Vlade4GM]

http://www.draftexpress.com/article/Measurements-released-3236/

Griffin with a puny 8'9 reach, but he does fulfill as promised height wise.

Collison measured in at 6'1.5 w/shoes, that's pretty good for him, but he's weighing in at a meager 166.

Daye coming in at almost 6'11 in shoes, with a 9'2 standing reach, but 192? Is that possible? I guess for crack addicts.

 

[DocHolliday]

Holy crap!!! 6' 11" and 192 lbs?? My brother is 6' 6" and I remember when he weighed 195. He was a twig. That's insane.

 

[Aenadin]

thats day 1 measurements right? griffin 6"8 with out shoes? too small or just right?

 

[Vlade4GM]

thats day 1 measurements right? griffin 6"8 with out shoes? too small or just right?

It's solid, same as Amare (6'8.5, 6'10).

 

[Aenadin]

i see the arm reach though could be a concern..

thabeet a legit 7 foot 2!

 

[Capt. Factorial]

The surprising thing about these numbers is how many players are measuring out taller than I expected. Almost nobody came out on the small side - Blair for certain is even smaller than I thought at 6'5.25" barefoot, and Teague at 6'0.25" is a bit smaller than I thought as well. Thabeet has always been billed as that legit 7'3" guy, but at 7'1.25" barefoot I'm calling that a stretch.

But Griffin at a legit 6'8.5" without shoes, Casspi/Lawal both at 6'7.75", Summers at 6'7.25", Harden at 6'4", Holiday at 6'3.25" -- that's where I thought those guys would measure WITH shoes.

T-Rex Arms award goes to Eric Maynor, the only guy with a wingspan lower than his in-shoe height.

 

[Aenadin]

The surprising thing about these numbers is how many players are measuring out taller than I expected. Almost nobody came out on the small side - Blair for certain is even smaller than I thought at 6'5.25" barefoot, and Teague at 6'0.25" is a bit smaller than I thought as well. Thabeet has always been billed as that legit 7'3" guy, but at 7'1.25" barefoot I'm calling that a stretch.

But Griffin at a legit 6'8.5" without shoes, Casspi/Lawal both at 6'7.75", Summers at 6'7.25", Harden at 6'4", Holiday at 6'3.25" -- that's where I thought those guys would measure WITH shoes.

T-Rex Arms award goes to Eric Maynor, the only guy with a wingspan lower than his in-shoe height.

LOL!

lets hope he doesnt have t-rex brain too

 

[MassachusettsKingsFan]

LOL at Johnny Flynn being 6'11.25 .... talk about hight at the PG spot, Sign him Geoff!


Seriously though, Austin Daye has some serious potential .. He proved at least as much as Anthony Randolph last year ... nice 3pt stroke, would be a steal with our second pick.

 

[Vlade4GM]

LOL at Johnny Flynn being 6'11.25 .... talk about hight at the PG spot, Sign him Geoff!


Seriously though, Austin Daye has some serious potential .. He proved at least as much as Anthony Randolph last year ... nice 3pt stroke, would be a steal with our second pick.

Eh, Randolph had/has excellent athleticism as well as the height, length, and guard skills. AR definitely has better speed/quickness and leaping ability than Daye.

 

[Bricklayer]

thats day 1 measurements right? griffin 6"8 with out shoes? too small or just right?

Solid size -- no problem there. The lack fo reach is hardly surprising either -- he's always played "stubby" and never will be a shotblocker because of it. He's actually got shorter reach than Blair. Or Earl Clark for that matter.

 

[fnordius]

Jonny Flynn needs to get some new shoes. Nobody should be 6'0" in shoes when they're 6'11" barefoot!



On a more serious note, Dejuan Blair's looking like the Big Baby of this year's combine... 6'5" and 277 pounds, which is 10 pounds heavier than Thabeet.

 

[Aenadin]

LOL at Johnny Flynn being 6'11.25 .... talk about hight at the PG spot, Sign him Geoff!


Seriously though, Austin Daye has some serious potential .. He proved at least as much as Anthony Randolph last year ... nice 3pt stroke, would be a steal with our second pick.

lol!! 6"11 with out shoes 6"1 with shoes! haha magic shrinking shoes!!
i think it should have been 5"11

 

[Bricklayer]

Thabeet has always been billed as that legit 7'3" guy, but at 7'1.25" barefoot I'm calling that a stretch.

If the conceit is you measure them with shoes, not really. He wore some of the thinner shoes in the crop (1.25 inches) and was still 7'2.5". If he wears Griffin's shoes he's 7'2.75". If he wears Earl Clark's lifts he's 7'3".

He also has to jump all of 7" to grab the rim.

 

[Bricklayer]

Jonny Flynn needs to get some new shoes. Nobody should be 6'0" in shoes when they're 6'11" barefoot!



On a more serious note, Dejuan Blair's looking like the Big Baby of this year's combine... 6'5" and 277 pounds, which is 10 pounds heavier than Thabeet.

And that's after he reportedly lost 30 lbs.

Thing about Big Baby that you could see in all of his predraft mix vids was that he was really skilled for such an unwieldy guy. He had hte jumper, he could drop a crossover, no look pass. It was funny fat skilled guy in the park stuff. Blair though is a pure power player. that's the question there. Can he make it as a pure power player at only 6'5" without shoes and without great hops? He's a brute to be sure, but he's going to be looking up to 4/5 of the opposing lineup on many nights.

 

[Vlade4GM]

If the conceit is you measure them with shoes, not really. He wore some of the thinner shoes in the crop (1.25 inches) and was still 7'2.5". If he wears Griffin's shoes he's 7'2.75". If he wears Earl Clark's lifts he's 7'3".

He also has to jump all of 7" to grab the rim.

1.25 shoes thickness seemed the most common, that's still pushing it IMO. I think the NBA's official heights should take everyone's sock measurements and just add an inch to them.

 

[Bricklayer]

1.25 shoes thickness seemed the most common, that's still pushing it IMO. I think the NBA's official heights should take everyone's sock measurements and just add an inch to them.

Oh I agree with that -- the whole measurement thing is silly. They should be measured officially, in socks, once a year if need be to prevent all the incessant misreporting.

But since that is not the way its done, or has ever been done, Thabeet is a legit 7'3" in the same way that Duncan is a legit 7'0". Its all relative. Change the reporting rules and Thabeet is only 7'2.25", but Duncan is then only 6'11", and Thabeet is still 3" taller. It only becomes an issue when somebody is blatantly wearing big shoes to try to pump themselves up. Obviously Thabeet had no need to do that.

 

[kennadog]

i see the arm reach though could be a concern..

thabeet a legit 7 foot 2!

Does the fact that he is, apparently, incredibly athletic mitigate the shortness of reach at all? I'm asking, because I don't know as much as a lot of folks around here.

 

[Aenadin]

Does the fact that he is, apparently, incredibly athletic mitigate the shortness of reach at all? I'm asking, because I don't know as much as a lot of folks around here.

when going for rebounds and dunking no doubt it mitigates his short arm reach... only problem is hes not the only athletic big in the nba.

 

[kennadog]

when going for rebounds and dunking no doubt it mitigates his short arm reach... only problem is hes not the only athletic big in the nba.

Yeah, I figured that. From the descriptions of him I've read, it sounds like he is an extremely hard worker.

 

[Vlade4GM]

Does the fact that he is, apparently, incredibly athletic mitigate the shortness of reach at all? I'm asking, because I don't know as much as a lot of folks around here.

It helps to make up for it in certain situations, but reaching for a ball is quicker than jumping for it (obviously you always jump for a ball or on a shot at least a little bit, but I'm talking differing degrees here) and it takes less energy. It helps rebounding and shot blocking the most. It helps with post scoring too since it's hard to get up real high from a set position. Griffin is going to have to improve his footwork and really learn how to use his strength well. He definitely is the type to focus more on a face-up game because of his athleticism, but I saw his shot on his workout video, needs to get more height on it.

 

[kennadog]

http://www.draftexpress.com/article/Measurements-released-3236/

Daye coming in at almost 6'11 in shoes, with a 9'2 standing reach, but 192? Is that possible? I guess for crack addicts.

This made me laugh.

My brother is 6'5" and was extremely fit at that age. It seemed like he was eating astounding amounts of food 24/7, but had a hard time keeping his weight at 170. I swear if he skipped a snack he'd drop to 165. It really was hard for him to just keep his weight up, let alone put on much more at that age.

 

[One and Done]

The surprising thing about these numbers is how many players are measuring out taller than I expected. Almost nobody came out on the small side - quote]

My sentiments exactly - finally, a year where actual measurements are close to those listed. Who can forget Beasley being 6'7" w/o shoes - or Spencer Hawes and his 1.75" platforms that made him 7 ft?

 

[hammystyle]

Earl Clark was the big surprise for me. He's 6'10"...David Thorpe has been hyping him recently saying that he needs only to play as a 4.

Jonny Flynn kind of quieting the idea that his listing at 6' 190 is a joke. The recent Chad Ford article basically hinted that he was about 5'9". That's good news for him. Same thing with Ty Lawson.

Good show for Tyler Hansbrough too! The Kings don't need him, but he'll be pretty useful for someone.

BJ Mullens a legit 7'1" guy.

 

[Bricklayer]

Earl Clark was the big surprise for me. He's 6'10"...David Thorpe has been hyping him recently saying that he needs only to play as a 4.

Clark is only 6'10" because of those platform pads he was wearing, an dit will be kind of embarrassing if he tries to play in those and falls off of them while trying to make a move.

Does have good reach though. The big problem is that he's not built for the insde wars. Unless you have hops like Josh Smith, 228 ain't getting it done at PF. Actually even if you have hops like Josh Smith.

 

[Capt. Factorial]

If the conceit is you measure them with shoes, not really. He wore some of the thinner shoes in the crop (1.25 inches) and was still 7'2.5". If he wears Griffin's shoes he's 7'2.75". If he wears Earl Clark's lifts he's 7'3".

He also has to jump all of 7" to grab the rim.

Actually, the mean shoe height was 1.2 inches and the median was 1.25, so Thabeet's shoes were no thinner than average. It's just hard for me to see a guy as a "legit" 7'3" when he's not 1 but 1.75 inches shorter than that barefoot. He'll probably wear similar sized shoes in the league, so he'll have to round up to actually be 7'3" on the court.

I know he's the tallest player in the class, but I'm just saying he measured out probably an inch shorter barefoot than I expected.

 

[Bricklayer]

Actually, the mean shoe height was 1.2 inches and the median was 1.25, so Thabeet's shoes were no thinner than average. It's just hard for me to see a guy as a "legit" 7'3" when he's not 1 but 1.75 inches shorter than that barefoot. He'll probably wear similar sized shoes in the league, so he'll have to round up to actually be 7'3" on the court.

I know he's the tallest player in the class, but I'm just saying he measured out probably an inch shorter barefoot than I expected.

If he's 7'2.25" then he'd be 7'4" as reported. Just the way its always been done. I would imagine Yao is probably "only" 7'3.75" or 7'4" in socks himself (doubt he went to the combine back int eh day, so its just a guess). Brendan Haywood is often accused of being 7'2". He only measured 6'11.75" in socks.

 

[Vlade4GM]

7'2, 7'3, who gives a rat's behind?

 

[Bricklayer]

7'2, 7'3, who gives a rat's behind?

To a certain degree I think that's true of the megacenters. They are really really tall any way you cut it. Those inches and fractions of an inch mean much more for more "normal" sized guys, especially would be PFs and SGs, both of which if they measure out a couple of inches short can doom them to tweener status.

 

[Vlade4GM]

He's got the same standing reach ash Shaq, I don't think height/reach is an issue for Thabeet. However, other things are.

 

[bajaden]

thats day 1 measurements right? griffin 6"8 with out shoes? too small or just right?

It basicly makes him taller than 90% of the PF's in the league. Howard was only 6'9" when he came into the league. Griffin is 6'8.5" . His reach is a little short, but then he almost has a 40" vertical. At this point, were just nit picking..