Griffin or Rubio????
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Griffin has the potential to create double teams down low. That could be how good he could become. Not many players today could create double teams. A guy who could create double teams down low would be the perfect compliment for Martin. I could see Martin hitting those open jumpers/three pointers/slashes to the hoop due to the double teaming on Griffin. Of course the big question is... could he become that good to warrant double teaming?
Ricky Rubio Wins Defensive Player Of The Year Award
http://www.marca.com/2009/03/03/baloncesto/acb/1236104096.html
Not sure if anyone saw this yet. A true point guard with length that can play D. I will take him 1st and Blake Griffin second.
http://www.marca.com/2009/03/03/baloncesto/acb/1236104096.html
Not sure if anyone saw this yet. A true point guard with length that can play D. I will take him 1st and Blake Griffin second.
Jerry Reynolds who works for the Kings front office I believe said every NBA team will select Blake Griffin number 1 and obviously that includes us. It is not even debateable anymore that we select Rubio with the number 1 pick because that simply just won't happen. The only way I see us getting Rubio is if we trade down to get him and that is highly unlikely or we ended up with the second pick which seems more likely. Also it is a very dumb move to draft for needs with a pick that high. For goodness sake we are 16-61 and we need all the talent we can get! Portland didn't take Jordan because they had Drexler / Kings didn't take Karl Malone because we had Otis Thorpe are just some of the examples where you pick for needs with picks that high. I'm sure glad Kings fans arn't running this team. It is so damn hard to believe so many of us wouldn't take Griffin number one.
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This really isn't a fair comparison. You named two franchise PGs along with one solid rookie forward and an above average forward. Look at the effect that Webber, Duncan, Nowitski, etc. had on their franchises.
If it was my pick I would say Griffin. I feel like I know that Griffin is a sure fire all star. Rubio may be, but he feels more like an urban legend to me. I have only seen one or two games and have little idea how to translate his Euro stats to their NBA equivelants. Frankly, I'll be very happy with either.
If it was my pick I would say Griffin. I feel like I know that Griffin is a sure fire all star. Rubio may be, but he feels more like an urban legend to me. I have only seen one or two games and have little idea how to translate his Euro stats to their NBA equivelants. Frankly, I'll be very happy with either.
Consensus best collegiate doesn't translate into best pro. I like Griffin, but:
(1) Power forward is the LEAST important position on the court.
(2) Point Guard is MOST important.
(3) Rubio makes teammates better. Blake Griffin makes Blake Griffin better.
I am not saying I'd take Rubio over Griffin, but it's not as clear cut as you make it out to be.
Does anyone know if and when we have Rubio or Griffin come for a workout, we can play them 1-on-1 or 2-on-2 against are existing personnel, or are there rules that disallow it????
I'd love to see Rubio go 1-on-1 against B-Jax or BENO.
And I'd love to see a 2-on-2 of Hawes, JT vs. Blake Griffin and Donte Greene.
I am sure our scouts, front office would too.
Also, regarding Jerry Reynolds comments, haven't you heard of a smoke screen?
(1) Power forward is the LEAST important position on the court.
(2) Point Guard is MOST important.
(3) Rubio makes teammates better. Blake Griffin makes Blake Griffin better.
I am not saying I'd take Rubio over Griffin, but it's not as clear cut as you make it out to be.
Does anyone know if and when we have Rubio or Griffin come for a workout, we can play them 1-on-1 or 2-on-2 against are existing personnel, or are there rules that disallow it????
I'd love to see Rubio go 1-on-1 against B-Jax or BENO.
And I'd love to see a 2-on-2 of Hawes, JT vs. Blake Griffin and Donte Greene.
I am sure our scouts, front office would too.
Also, regarding Jerry Reynolds comments, haven't you heard of a smoke screen?
I think you are putting too much emphasis on which position is the least or most important.
1. Would that power forward still be the least important guy on the court if he indeed turned into an all-star? Point is you draft the guy who has the best chance to become an all-star caliber player no matter the position. A team can never have enough stars anywhere.
2. While I agree having a point guard is important, you don't pass up a potential star just because having a point guard is important. Having an all-star caliber player is more important than anything else.
3. People normally see point guards as making teammates better because obviously that is their job.. to distribute the ball and run the offense etc, but it doesn't mean guys at other positions couldn't make their teammates better. There are other ways you can make your teammates better besides constructing the offense like a point guard does.
Smoke screen? That was laughable. It is safe to say whoever gets the number one pick gets Blake Griffin anyways, so why would he put up a smoke screen?
1. Would that power forward still be the least important guy on the court if he indeed turned into an all-star? Point is you draft the guy who has the best chance to become an all-star caliber player no matter the position. A team can never have enough stars anywhere.
2. While I agree having a point guard is important, you don't pass up a potential star just because having a point guard is important. Having an all-star caliber player is more important than anything else.
3. People normally see point guards as making teammates better because obviously that is their job.. to distribute the ball and run the offense etc, but it doesn't mean guys at other positions couldn't make their teammates better. There are other ways you can make your teammates better besides constructing the offense like a point guard does.
Smoke screen? That was laughable. It is safe to say whoever gets the number one pick gets Blake Griffin anyways, so why would he put up a smoke screen?
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Okay, wait...
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Sorry, I had to step away from the computer for just a minute.
Jerry Reynolds, who is the ultimate organization mouthpiece, could VERY EASILY be attempting a smoke screen, a case of misdirection to keep people from suspecting that Ricky Rubio is, right down to his sneakers, the ultimate type of Geoff Petrie pick in this year's draft.
Will we pick Rubio if we get the chance? Don't know. Will we actually snag Griffin as the best available if we manage to garner the first pick? Don't know that either.
But I do know that quoting Jerry Reynolds as the ultimate authority is just ...
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...whew. Thanks. I really needed a good laugh.
You're claiming Jerry Reynolds as an ultimate authority? ...
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Sorry, I had to step away from the computer for just a minute.
Jerry Reynolds, who is the ultimate organization mouthpiece, could VERY EASILY be attempting a smoke screen, a case of misdirection to keep people from suspecting that Ricky Rubio is, right down to his sneakers, the ultimate type of Geoff Petrie pick in this year's draft.
Will we pick Rubio if we get the chance? Don't know. Will we actually snag Griffin as the best available if we manage to garner the first pick? Don't know that either.
But I do know that quoting Jerry Reynolds as the ultimate authority is just ...
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...whew. Thanks. I really needed a good laugh.
Okay, wait...
You're claiming Jerry Reynolds as an ultimate authority? ...
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...
...
...whew...
Sorry, I had to step away from the computer for just a minute.
Jerry Reynolds, who is the ultimate organization mouthpiece, could VERY EASILY be attempting a smoke screen, a case of misdirection to keep people from suspecting that Ricky Rubio is, right down to his sneakers, the ultimate type of Geoff Petrie pick in this year's draft.
Will we pick Rubio if we get the chance? Don't know. Will we actually snag Griffin as the best available if we manage to garner the first pick? Don't know that either.
But I do know that quoting Jerry Reynolds as the ultimate authority is just ...
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...whew. Thanks. I really needed a good laugh.
You're claiming Jerry Reynolds as an ultimate authority? ...
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...whew...
Sorry, I had to step away from the computer for just a minute.
Jerry Reynolds, who is the ultimate organization mouthpiece, could VERY EASILY be attempting a smoke screen, a case of misdirection to keep people from suspecting that Ricky Rubio is, right down to his sneakers, the ultimate type of Geoff Petrie pick in this year's draft.
Will we pick Rubio if we get the chance? Don't know. Will we actually snag Griffin as the best available if we manage to garner the first pick? Don't know that either.
But I do know that quoting Jerry Reynolds as the ultimate authority is just ...
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...whew. Thanks. I really needed a good laugh.
You need to quit assuming that on-air personalities know more about the inner workings of the organization than anyone else. In all honesty, there are times when they are deliberately kept in the dark about some things - you know the term "plausible deniability"?
Yes, he's knowledgeable as someone who has been around the league and the Kings for a very long time but he's not privvy to all the inner workings of basketball operations - nor should he be.
I just think quoting him to support your Griffin comments is a little far-fetched.
Yes, he's knowledgeable as someone who has been around the league and the Kings for a very long time but he's not privvy to all the inner workings of basketball operations - nor should he be.
I just think quoting him to support your Griffin comments is a little far-fetched.