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But is that always a good thing?
Luke Walton coaches every night yet most believe the KINGS would be better off if he didn’t.
Some players can have that effect too. Wiggins is a player a lot of people would have high up on their list.
At least when Bagley is healthy and plays, he tends to make more of an impact. Offensively and on the boards anyway.
For the record, I think labeling either player as “useless” is going overboard.
Luke Walton coaches every night yet most believe the KINGS would be better off if he didn’t.
Some players can have that effect too. Wiggins is a player a lot of people would have high up on their list.
At least when Bagley is healthy and plays, he tends to make more of an impact. Offensively and on the boards anyway.
For the record, I think labeling either player as “useless” is going overboard.
Because Wiggins has massively rehabbed his image and just had his best season. Props to him, I didn't think he had it in him.
That contract still isn't palatable and who knows what he'd do, but this is probably the best you could hope for. Buddy and Bagley have negative value.
Probably gonna have to move DOWN in the draft just to get someone to take on their salary and baggage.
Should I recount all the reports we've heard about Buddy's contract being unmovable, or them trying to throw Bagley at a wall to see if anything sticks and coming up empty.
That contract still isn't palatable and who knows what he'd do, but this is probably the best you could hope for. Buddy and Bagley have negative value.
Probably gonna have to move DOWN in the draft just to get someone to take on their salary and baggage.
Should I recount all the reports we've heard about Buddy's contract being unmovable, or them trying to throw Bagley at a wall to see if anything sticks and coming up empty.
Sounds like a winning org gets it.
Now if the KINGS can just get better at personnel decisions, notably the draft, and keep the same playing to win mindset they’ve tried to have — they just might return to early 2000’s form one day soon.
Hitting on 2 of the past 9 first round picks they’ve had isn’t near good enough. Hitting on 3 of 9 may have been just good enough had they not screwed up 2018 and passed on #77.
Now if the KINGS can just get better at personnel decisions, notably the draft, and keep the same playing to win mindset they’ve tried to have — they just might return to early 2000’s form one day soon.
Hitting on 2 of the past 9 first round picks they’ve had isn’t near good enough. Hitting on 3 of 9 may have been just good enough had they not screwed up 2018 and passed on #77.
I'd take that Dave Joerger version of Marvin Bagley with a couple more years of development. His tough love wasn't popular with the players but he at least knew how to use them. Unfortunately for Marvin he's got one more "prove it" year in Sacramento and guess who is still roaming the sideline? Nobody is a bigger loser in this "one more year of Luke Walton" situation than Bagley is, except for perhaps his agent.
I'd take that Dave Joerger version of Marvin Bagley with a couple more years of development. His tough love wasn't popular with the players but he at least knew how to use them. Unfortunately for Marvin he's got one more "prove it" year in Sacramento and guess who is still roaming the sideline? Nobody is a bigger loser in this "one more year of Luke Walton" situation than Bagley is, except for perhaps his agent.
Reason #2376 why social media is bad for most athletes and celebrities.
I love Dave Chappelle’s response as to why he doesn’t use Twitter and other forms of social media:
“Why Would I Write All My Thoughts on a Bathroom Wall”
Not every thought, feeling, emotion or experience someone has needs to be shared. In fact, I’d argue that 95%+ shouldn’t ever be shared.
But social media is the tool this current generation leverages to apply peer pressure towards that which they dislike or cannot handle. It’s the 21st centuries manipulation tool.
Trouble is, eventually that tool bites back. What goes around, comes around.
I love Dave Chappelle’s response as to why he doesn’t use Twitter and other forms of social media:
“Why Would I Write All My Thoughts on a Bathroom Wall”
Not every thought, feeling, emotion or experience someone has needs to be shared. In fact, I’d argue that 95%+ shouldn’t ever be shared.
But social media is the tool this current generation leverages to apply peer pressure towards that which they dislike or cannot handle. It’s the 21st centuries manipulation tool.
Trouble is, eventually that tool bites back. What goes around, comes around.
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An interesting article on the hawks and the question of drafting for fit or best player available. Obviously you still need to draft a quality player either way, but team construction does need to factor into things. Interestingly enough, this also seemed to be Vlade’s philosophy… unfortunately he was looking to recreate a team from the kings golden era 20 years ago, vs. building a team with the understanding of the modern nba.
https://www.theringer.com/2021/7/5/22563718/atlanta-hawks-trae-young-travis-schlenk
https://www.theringer.com/2021/7/5/22563718/atlanta-hawks-trae-young-travis-schlenk
I still see atl as the model of good coaching vs drafting or good gm. The players now were the same as earlier in the year. There wasn’t a new draft pick that changed things around. It wasn’t even just having a consistent team finally clicking cuz new players were added through free agency. The only thing that changed was Nate McMillan taking over as coach and then they started winning games.
Drafting for fit rarely if ever is going to totally fail but depth-ing your way along isn't new at all, and yes, a Vlade special. The issue is when they start losing some of those young guys or overpaying them when they might not quite be as valuable to them as it would seem. They drafted in the top again and as an individual buried another top pick. Using top picks for depth is stupid and they'll probably find out soon themselves.
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Yeah and he trimmed the fat from his rotation and/or injuries made it easy for him kind of like Luke who without injuries would have already had a bigger locker room firestorm on his hands. When Nates wing position is healthy again, those issues will creep up even if a decent winning clip continues.
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