It depends when the team has quit on a guy. That's always the key. And for us we can't wait if we were to think that way because if we do then we are already done for the playoffs again.
So -- isolated outburst and productive meeting that causes some improvements by Karl and more unity on court? No Karl doesn't have to go.
Team has quit on Karl, who is disengaged by too stubborn to change? Yeah, you might as well do it. But ONLY if you seriously have a major coach lined up. Team isn't going to play for any of Karl's disciples taking over in that case either.
Whatever it is, you analyze the situation and make a strategic move where you are preapared for the consequences. No panic, no kneejerk.
So -- isolated outburst and productive meeting that causes some improvements by Karl and more unity on court? No Karl doesn't have to go.
Team has quit on Karl, who is disengaged by too stubborn to change? Yeah, you might as well do it. But ONLY if you seriously have a major coach lined up. Team isn't going to play for any of Karl's disciples taking over in that case either.
Whatever it is, you analyze the situation and make a strategic move where you are preapared for the consequences. No panic, no kneejerk.
There'd obviously be more patience as the next coach would be a Vlade hire, Vlade's pick, despite your twisting of the situation this summer and attempting to paint Karl as Vlade's guy, which is laughable.
The root of this whole thing is not only firing Malone but then hiring a second coach without Vlade, the current GM in place. That's twice hiring the coach before the GM is going to blow up in our faces.
The root of this whole thing is not only firing Malone but then hiring a second coach without Vlade, the current GM in place. That's twice hiring the coach before the GM is going to blow up in our faces.
From DMC himself... Something happened and it was DMC losing his cool. It's not just media making stuff up. Now this team needs to turn that fire into something constructive and get a win tonight.
There was a lot of stuff happening today and some posts I made were later proven to be incorrect. So freaking sue me.
It doesn't matter who owns the team.
It doesn't matter who manages the team.
It doesn't matter who coaches the team.
It doesn't matter which draft picks are chosen.
It doesn't matter which players join the team
It doesn't matter which players leave the team.
This organization is so dysfunctional. I can't figure it out. If it's not one thing it's another. Season after season. The organization just doesn't learn from its mistakes. For every action there's a reaction. We have one of the best players in DMC and it's too bad that his full potential may never be realized due to the constant systems introduced by new coaches and organizational distractions. Sacramento has never been a top destination for FAs and this will only continue with the organization's follies. Why can't we be a viable organization like most of the teams in the NBA? Talk about a lost decade.
It doesn't matter who manages the team.
It doesn't matter who coaches the team.
It doesn't matter which draft picks are chosen.
It doesn't matter which players join the team
It doesn't matter which players leave the team.
This organization is so dysfunctional. I can't figure it out. If it's not one thing it's another. Season after season. The organization just doesn't learn from its mistakes. For every action there's a reaction. We have one of the best players in DMC and it's too bad that his full potential may never be realized due to the constant systems introduced by new coaches and organizational distractions. Sacramento has never been a top destination for FAs and this will only continue with the organization's follies. Why can't we be a viable organization like most of the teams in the NBA? Talk about a lost decade.
They also may have been trying to save Rondo BUT I think we are being unkind in thinking that Karl can't adapt to a big team. He has learned something in his years if only from watching other coaches. I'd rather root for him than hope he gets fired. If the team's needs and Karl's never ending style can be tweaked a little towards each other, life will be much better for us all.
How many times this season have the Kings ended a defensive stand running out on an open 3 point shooter? Too many for it to be the players, the scheme is leaving 3 point shooters wide open time after time. Time to change the defensive scheme because it is not working
I almost made this rant when Cousins went out with the strained achilles. Pace is dumb. Slow this freaking team down. It does not matter how many points you score, it only matters that you score more than the other team! This is not the GSW folks. Walk the ball up, pass it to Cousins, Koufos or Rudy inside and let them bang the heck out of the small ball defenders. If the defense stacks inside then pass to an open shooter. If your best player is Cousins and you need him in the game to win why run him so hard??? You can still run out on rebounds but if the shot is not there back it out and run the sets.
Settle on a rotation. Is the coaching staff really this backward about how the players minds work? I don't think so........
Lastly Karl and all that coaching talent sitting there collecting paychecks must know all of this. Karl or one of those assistants needs to take the reins and play a different brand of Basketball.
Thibs is out there, that is all I am saying.
I almost made this rant when Cousins went out with the strained achilles. Pace is dumb. Slow this freaking team down. It does not matter how many points you score, it only matters that you score more than the other team! This is not the GSW folks. Walk the ball up, pass it to Cousins, Koufos or Rudy inside and let them bang the heck out of the small ball defenders. If the defense stacks inside then pass to an open shooter. If your best player is Cousins and you need him in the game to win why run him so hard??? You can still run out on rebounds but if the shot is not there back it out and run the sets.
Settle on a rotation. Is the coaching staff really this backward about how the players minds work? I don't think so........
Lastly Karl and all that coaching talent sitting there collecting paychecks must know all of this. Karl or one of those assistants needs to take the reins and play a different brand of Basketball.
Thibs is out there, that is all I am saying.
Cousins' critics would be correct in that his outburst is the same old thing, but how he has followed it up is completely new. He showed awareness that maybe it was too much and even apologized for it and that is very new. It wasn't like he was sorry for a suspension or anything like that, it seemed real to me.
With all that said I'm still not sure George Karl is the coach to start next season. I think he's a good coach and I believe he can get this team on a winning track, I just think his style doesn't fit well with the players on the roster from a basketball or personality standpoint. He'd have to do something pretty terrible to get fired during the season though. I have to believe Vivek and Vlade aren't really keen on firing a coach during the season after all the recent upheaval.
With all that said I'm still not sure George Karl is the coach to start next season. I think he's a good coach and I believe he can get this team on a winning track, I just think his style doesn't fit well with the players on the roster from a basketball or personality standpoint. He'd have to do something pretty terrible to get fired during the season though. I have to believe Vivek and Vlade aren't really keen on firing a coach during the season after all the recent upheaval.
I think after the team meeting and the big dust up, Karl will be wise to slow down the PACE, like he did in the Detroit game.
Hopefully Karl adapts fast, because he should know by know that Vlade has DMC's back and Karl is not going to win a power struggle.
Karl has played a slower paced game, like he did with Seattle, so we know he is capable. His frantic PACE from his Denver days are just not going to work here and I think he starting to realize that.
IF Karl is a wise man, he will use the Detroit game as a blue print for success and to keep his job!
Hopefully Karl adapts fast, because he should know by know that Vlade has DMC's back and Karl is not going to win a power struggle.
Karl has played a slower paced game, like he did with Seattle, so we know he is capable. His frantic PACE from his Denver days are just not going to work here and I think he starting to realize that.
IF Karl is a wise man, he will use the Detroit game as a blue print for success and to keep his job!
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Who the BLANK is Jason McIntyre?
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This article is totally different than anything any of the local writers who were there said. Is there any credence to any of this?
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This article is totally different than anything any of the local writers who were there said. Is there any credence to any of this?
Some of the blame falls on the fans to some extent. After losing for so many seasons, the fans have a short rope and high expectations. Whether that's fair or not is immaterial. It's just the way it is. I looked at the schedule and decided that after the first 11 game, we could end up being 3 and 8, and thought that if we end up 4 and 7, that wouldn't be so bad, considering how many new players we have, and how little they've played together. But that's me. I try not to live in la la land. Of course I hoped I was wrong. You want to fire Karl, have at it. In some ways Karl's resume works against him, The expectations are higher because of his past record. The question is, how much rope will the next coach have?
"All summer this team was spouting optimism about a fresh start for all involved but now that their under trial by fire, that glowing facade seems to be peeling away."
From http://www.sactownroyalty.com/2015/...george-karl-seem-to-be-drifting-apart-already
Not on topic, but just disappointed in that lack of proofreading. Might say something about the proofreading of their ideas.
From http://www.sactownroyalty.com/2015/...george-karl-seem-to-be-drifting-apart-already
Not on topic, but just disappointed in that lack of proofreading. Might say something about the proofreading of their ideas.
Does anyone feel that the NBA was really trying to screw the Kings by giving them just about the worst 8 games to start the season?
Only one of the teams the Kings played (the Lakers) would be considered a bad team.
ALL 7 other teams were in the playoffs or just missed them last year.
If we can start wining some games now, we will be okay.
Only one of the teams the Kings played (the Lakers) would be considered a bad team.
ALL 7 other teams were in the playoffs or just missed them last year.
If we can start wining some games now, we will be okay.
For some reason this whole situation reminds me of the 2005-2006 season. Adelman's last year here. I just remember the narrative being the same. Lots of talent on the team but they weren't getting wins. Must be the coach. Never mind everything Adelman had done in his career prior to that season, one slow start, numerous 5 game losing streaks, and the narrative determined that Adelman was to stuck in his system and didn't coach defense, and he just had to go, too old, too stuck in his ways, we'd never win with him as the coach. The team was a projected lock for the playoffs and at the end of January were like 17-24.
I'll always remember one press conference after another horrible loss where Rick just went off on the media when they asked him the usual stupid questions regarding his system and if it was outdated or if he was being too stubborn, and it was the only times I ever saw him get pissed off in a situation like that, and he went on a tangent. I'm paraphrasing but he basically said when asked about his system "I know everything about every offensive and defensive play set that has been run in the NBA in the last 30 years, which one do you want me to run? Good defensive players play good defense, good offensive players play good offense, there are no secrets or gimmicks here. If you have the talent, players play hard and play right right, you win, if you don't have that, you lose".
At the end of January, Peja went out and Artest came in, the defense magically got better, the Kings went like 27-21. Made the playoffs, gave the Spurs a big scare, and suddenly Adelman was a good coach again.
Then the Maloofs fired him, but that's a whole different discussion.
I'll always remember one press conference after another horrible loss where Rick just went off on the media when they asked him the usual stupid questions regarding his system and if it was outdated or if he was being too stubborn, and it was the only times I ever saw him get pissed off in a situation like that, and he went on a tangent. I'm paraphrasing but he basically said when asked about his system "I know everything about every offensive and defensive play set that has been run in the NBA in the last 30 years, which one do you want me to run? Good defensive players play good defense, good offensive players play good offense, there are no secrets or gimmicks here. If you have the talent, players play hard and play right right, you win, if you don't have that, you lose".
At the end of January, Peja went out and Artest came in, the defense magically got better, the Kings went like 27-21. Made the playoffs, gave the Spurs a big scare, and suddenly Adelman was a good coach again.
Then the Maloofs fired him, but that's a whole different discussion.