Kings and free agency - part 2

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Peter_Gibbons

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Right now, Wesley's agent is in contact with the Mavs. Most likely telling them that they got this offer from the Kings and have until ____ to respond. Increase your offer Cuban or Wesley is gone.
 
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Amit149

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Peter_Gibbons said:
Right now, Wesley's agent is in contact with the Mavs. Most likely telling them that they got this offer from the Kings and have until ____ to respond. Increase your offer Cuban or Wesley is gone.
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And the Mavs are probably telling him to wait until the DeAndre situation clears out... and if he wants to play there he is going to wait- question is if we can afford to wait for him...
 
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Peter_Gibbons

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Amit149 said:
And the Mavs are probably telling him to wait until the DeAndre situation clears out... and if he wants to play there he is going to wait- question is if we can afford to wait for him...
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Absolutely not. He should be given until 9am tomorrow max. We need to make other moves and DJ will not decide by tomorrow. So it's either he wants the money or move on.
 
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Amit149

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Peter_Gibbons said:
Absolutely not. He should be given until 9am tomorrow max. We need to make other moves and DJ will not decide by tomorrow. So it's either he wants the money or move on.
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You can make the threat, but what is your hand exactly? you just carved out space to get him or Monta, Monta is of the board- what are you gonna do now? I guarantee you is agent knows we are pretty much in desperation mode to get him.
 
SacTownKid

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Amit149 said:
And the Mavs are probably telling him to wait until the DeAndre situation clears out... and if he wants to play there he is going to wait- question is if we can afford to wait for him...
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And the Kings response should be that he has one call to Dallas if he likes before the offer is pulled.
 
Draft2007

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Peter_Gibbons said:
Absolutely not. He should be given until 9am tomorrow max. We need to make other moves and DJ will not decide by tomorrow. So it's either he wants the money or move on.
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He also loses quite a bit of leverage if we pull our offer. I don't really buy the Toronto angle and think their interest was prior to signing Carroll. Wes's agent was just using them for leverage against the Mavs prior to the Kings entering the race. Unless there have been other offers that we are unaware of, his best change at $15 mil is from the Kings. Teams like the Knicks and Lakers don't really have a need at SG so I can't see any other last second suitors. If he passes on our offer I'm willing to bet he doesn't get more elsewhere and may end up settling for around $10-$12 mil with Dallas
 
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Peter_Gibbons

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Amit149 said:
You can make the threat, but what is your hand exactly? you just carved out space to get him or Monta, Monta is of the board- what are you gonna do now? I guarantee you is agent knows we are pretty much in desperation mode to get him.
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What we have on our side is $9 million reasons. He'll have to pay state tax here, but it will still equal close to $4 million difference. For someone like Wesley, he understands he has limited number of years to make the most he can. He was in college for 4 years and after his injury, who knows what can happen. He knows that and money does make a difference to him. If it didn't, he wouldn't fly to Sac.

Call his bluff, we can't be played around with all time like Iggy's deal or players refusing to workout for our team.
 
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JLoss22

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This offseason is probably going to not end very well. Next off season will be bad too since about 15 teams are going to have a ridiculous amount of cap. Hopefully we can start getting our younger guys to progress.

Also as a side note, Saw Omri today at the mall... I live in the Tampa area, so it was kind of weird. Told him I hope he's back in Sac and he said me too.
 
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Amit149

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Peter_Gibbons said:
What we have on our side is $9 million reasons. He'll have to pay state tax here, but it will still equal close to $4 million difference. For someone like Wesley, he understands he has limited number of years to make the most he can. He was in college for 4 years and after his injury, who knows what can happen. He knows that and money does make a difference to him. If it didn't, he wouldn't fly to Sac.

Call his bluff, we can't be played around with all time like Iggy's deal or players refusing to workout for our team.
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I get what you are saying, but if you "call his bluff" you also lose...

it seems like we are going to lose anyway, but you never know- what if the Mavs can't get enough cap space for both him and DJ...
 
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JLoss22 said:
This offseason is probably going to not end very well. Next off season will be bad too since about 15 teams are going to have a ridiculous amount of cap. Hopefully we can start getting our younger guys to progress.

Also as a side note, Saw Omri today at the mall... I live in the Tampa area, so it was kind of weird. Told him I hope he's back in Sac and he said me too.
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He's training with Thorpe.
 
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sactownfan

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If we don't get Wes then we should just sign everyone to 1 year deals. Maybe a mid season trade or try again at landing a better free agent next year. Hopefully after a more stable year than this last one
 
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Amit149

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sactownfan said:
If we don't get Wes then we should just sign everyone to 1 year deals. Maybe a mid season trade or try again at landing a better free agent next year. Hopefully after a more stable year than this last one
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If we can get guys we like, I'm for locking them up for more years, on one year contract you don't get Bird rights, and that's a problem... and with the cap bonanza everyone will have money- so we maybe better of paying this year...
 
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I kind of hope he doesn't sign with us (Matthews, that is). More minutes for B Mac who I truly feel is going to break out this year, especially if Rondo is feeding him the ball.
 
Bricklayer

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Nikolizzle said:
I kind of hope he doesn't sign with us (Matthews, that is). More minutes for B Mac who I truly feel is going to break out this year, especially if Rondo is feeding him the ball.
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If Matthews not signing means more minutes for BMac that means complete catastrophe for the franchise. The ENTIRE plan is to bring in major NBA players dropping Ben back to more appropriate place off the bench. If Ben is getting more minutes when this is all said and done, it means a complete collapse of the plan, and likely a sayonara Cousins.
 
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KingsCitizen

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To me it looks like Matthews is really more after the money. Using the Kings' higher offer to challenge Dallas' offer.
Maybe it's time to start calling Belinelli's agent. Ben is on his way to become a Wes Matthews kind of player this year or the next anyway.
What we need now is pure shooters like Belinelli.
 
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