Malone fired

John Dickinson ‏@JDJohnDickinson
Source: Kings recruited Alvin Gentry as Malone assistant telling him HC job could be his quickly. Gentry declined, told Malone, signed w/GSW
The knife has been sharpened for Malone's back for a long time now.

Hire George Karl in time for Tuesday's game, and you're a PR genius Vivek. But you better get on it or you are going to be in for a pretty unenjoyable Tuesday night.
 

bajaden

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And apparently our moronic front office actually listens to the fans. Good lord things have gotten bad in a hurry.
No, but it does probably listen to Mullins, Richmond and PDA. This was waiting to happen, they just needed an excuse. I don't agree with it, but now that I've had a chance to think about it, I'm not shocked by it. Long term, if they get it right, and that's a big if, it could be a good thing. Short term, I see in appearance at least, chaos. Look, I'm not a fan of isolation basketball, and apparently neither is the front office. And that's what you were getting with Malone. like it or not. This is what happens when you rush to put your team together. All the parts aren't going to fit properly. Anything done in haste,is going to have a lot of loose parts laying around, and your eventually going to trip over some of them. And that's what happened when Vivek bought the Kings, and personally micro-managed the construction of the front office and the coaching staff in the few weeks preceding the draft.

I'm willing to cut Vivek some slack here. Easy to sit on the outside and criticize. But you have an owner who is smart, and has probably been hands on in all his business enterprises. In a perfect world, he would have had more time to think, and make these decisions. More time to get advice from other owners, and basketball knowledgeable people. There's a reason teams hire their GM's first, and coaches second. Reason number one being, the GM is a buffer between the coach and the owner. He takes all the blame. Just ask Petrie. Vivek has a vision for how he wants the team to play, and by all accounts, Malone didn't share that same vision. It wasn't in his basketball background. That doesn't make Malone a bad coach. Just a bad fit, at least from ownerships point of view. Vivek hired a coach that's old school, and a GM that came out of the Warriors, Nuggets system. That's mixing oil and water folks. It doesn't burn effectively, and you can't drink it.

So I suspect that after last season, Vivek knew he had made a mistake. His mistake, not PDA's mistake. He was caught in a quandary of his own making. His vision of how basketball should be played, rightly or wrongly, wasn't being represented on the court by the team he owned on the court he owned. So it was only a matter of time. I suspect that Vivek is an impatient man who likes to see results. And I suspect that got the better of him. He saw this current losing streak, despite not having Cousins due to illness, as a logical excuse to fire Malone. While I personally didn't like the type of offense Malone was running, the timing of his firing couldn't have come at a worse time. It is Christmas for gods sake, and tuesday is supposed to be Peja's day. This is a PR nightmare. And once again, a self-inflicted one.

Vivek needs his own Jerry West. An experienced basketball mind that he respects, and everyone within the organization respects. Bad basketball decisions, like all bad business decisions can have lasting results. When he bought the team, the one thing needed more than anything else, was a solid foundation on which to build. This team needed effective longevity in its front office, and with its coaching staff. Its difficult to attract top talent when your ownership, front office, and coaching staff project the stability of a third world country. Constant change is the enemy of a successful franchise. I think any new owner is allowed a few early mistakes. Sort of comes with the territory. I'm sure Vivek is bombarded with differing ideas on a regular basis. And he's out of his element. He needs to find someone he respects, and who has been successful over a long period of time to help him with his decisions. Someone who can look him in the eye, and tell his idea is nonsense, or not.

On a personal level, I suggested Bricky, but as yet, I haven't heard back from the Kings. :eek::rolleyes:
 

Kingster

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John Dickinson ‏@JDJohnDickinson
Source: Kings recruited Alvin Gentry as Malone assistant telling him HC job could be his quickly. Gentry declined, told Malone, signed w/GSW
So this move has been planned for quite some time. It sure does reek of scummy behind the scene double-dealing. What strikes me about Malone more than anything is that he has integrity - he's a straight shooter. (That's probably one of the characteristics that Cousins likes about him). Apparently the guy or guys that have been maneuvering for some time to oust Malone have presumably been having nice chit-chats with Malone about all kind of things - the family, the weather, etc., only to scheme behind the scenes for his removal.
 
At this point I hope Karl is the guy, but I won't believe it till I see it. That would be incredibly awkward too. What does he do about the assistants? Practice? Etc. I can't remember there being a time when a team hired the coach of their dreams in the middle of a season. But if they don't this season seems like a waste and even if Corbin does well, first banana peel he finds he's going to be fired for slipping.
 
Howard Beck @HowardBeck
Per one insider, the Kings head coach job is George Karl's to lose/turn down. Alvin Gentry and Mark Jackson also prime targets.

Can't imagine Gentry would want this job after he already turned down the option to be assistant and likely take over Malone. But we shall see.
 

Kingster

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No, but it does probably listen to Mullins, Richmond and PDA. This was waiting to happen, they just needed an excuse. I don't agree with it, but now that I've had a chance to think about it, I'm not shocked by it. Long term, if they get it right, and that's a big if, it could be a good thing. Short term, I see in appearance at least, chaos. Look, I'm not a fan of isolation basketball, and apparently neither is the front office. And that's what you were getting with Malone. like it or not. This is what happens when you rush to put your team together. All the parts aren't going to fit properly. Anything done in haste,is going to have a lot of loose parts laying around, and your eventually going to trip over some of them. And that's what happened when Vivek bought the Kings, and personally micro-managed the construction of the front office and the coaching staff in the few weeks preceding the draft.

I'm willing to cut Vivek some slack here. Easy to sit on the outside and criticize. But you have an owner who is smart, and has probably been hands on in all his business enterprises. In a perfect world, he would have had more time to think, and make these decisions. More time to get advice from other owners, and basketball knowledgeable people. There's a reason teams hire their GM's first, and coaches second. Reason number one being, the GM is a buffer between the coach and the owner. He takes all the blame. Just ask Petrie. Vivek has a vision for how he wants the team to play, and by all accounts, Malone didn't share that same vision. It wasn't in his basketball background. That doesn't make Malone a bad coach. Just a bad fit, at least from ownerships point of view. Vivek hired a coach that's old school, and a GM that came out of the Warriors, Nuggets system. That's mixing oil and water folks. It doesn't burn effectively, and you can't drink it.

So I suspect that after last season, Vivek knew he had made a mistake. His mistake, not PDA's mistake. He was caught in a quandary of his own making. His vision of how basketball should be played, rightly or wrongly, wasn't being represented on the court by the team he owned on the court he owned. So it was only a matter of time. I suspect that Vivek is an impatient man who likes to see results. And I suspect that got the better of him. He saw this current losing streak, despite not having Cousins due to illness, as a logical excuse to fire Malone. While I personally didn't like the type of offense Malone was running, the timing of his firing couldn't have come at a worse time. It is Christmas for gods sake, and tuesday is supposed to be Peja's day. This is a PR nightmare. And once again, a self-inflicted one.

Vivek needs his own Jerry West. An experienced basketball mind that he respects, and everyone within the organization respects. Bad basketball decisions, like all bad business decisions can have lasting results. When he bought the team, the one thing needed more than anything else, was a solid foundation on which to build. This team needed effective longevity in its front office, and with its coaching staff. Its difficult to attract top talent when your ownership, front office, and coaching staff project the stability of a third world country. Constant change is the enemy of a successful franchise. I think any new owner is allowed a few early mistakes. Sort of comes with the territory. I'm sure Vivek is bombarded with differing ideas on a regular basis. And he's out of his element. He needs to find someone he respects, and who has been successful over a long period of time to help him with his decisions. Someone who can look him in the eye, and tell his idea is nonsense, or not.

On a personal level, I suggested Bricky, but as yet, I haven't heard back from the Kings. :eek::rolleyes:
If Vivek really does have Karl in his pocket, it's one thing. If he doesn't, it's an entirely different thing. If he has Karl then he is really moving toward an objective. If he doesn't, and he's left with Corbin for the rest of the season, then it's a power grab pure and simple, whereby Vivek, PDA and Mullin can all offer their advice and counsel to Corbin, who, I think, they all would expect to listen and carry it out.
 
If Karl is the guy, does that make anyone feel better?
Karl is a proven top tier NBA coach, who has chemistry with the GM. Karl isn't going to play 4 on 5 defense or employ Vivek's strategies from the girls school (at least I don't think so... come to think of it he does cry sometimes doesn't he?). And it is not like Malone's kids are gonna miss out on college or go hungry or something.

So..... yes.
 
Even if Vivek has Karl lined up, I dont think this was handled well at all. If you wanted to do this in the offseason, then do it in the offseason.

Now we have an interim head coach who will likely be replaced soon, he'll be implementing his new system, and then our next coach will implement an entirely different system. That alone makes this irresponsible. Then you factor in the complete lack of trust among the players and management and the sheer distraction of it all.

Truly terrible timing, and poor leadership, IMO.
 
I'm down with Karl as coach. Only concerned that he butted heads with Ray Allen in Milwaukee, but that was a long time ago. Anyone that wins with Melo must be one helluva coach...?
 
It's the unknowns that really get me. What are we aiming for now? Prior to the season it was all about wins and losses, now.. I really don't know. If they came out and said "Our objectives are a, b, and c with the goal of reaching objective d" then I can live with it because there is a plan in place, the foundation is there. We now have nothing. We probably have ticked off all of our players, with the two most ticked off players most likely being our 2 best ones. Everything was done unprofessionally to a man that breeds integrity and professionalism. The person I want to hear most from is Cousins. I don't care about Vivek anymore, it will take years for that man to gain an iota of trust from me. If they try and implement this 4-5 cherry picking bullcrap I will immediately stop watching all games. Of all the brilliant minds to ever grace the NBA, we ended up getting the owner who thinks he can break decades of tradition that WORKS for something truly awe inspiringly stupid.
 
5 reasons the choice is likely to be George Karl:

1) He's tight with PDA
2) He's an established NBA head coach with over 1000 career wins and NBA coach of the year in 2013
3) He's knows lay of the land in WC as good as anybody
4) He's hot property that wants back in the league and will get a top job sooner rather than later
5) George Karl is such a big name it will tame naysayers who are trashing PDA and Vivek over abrupt Malone firing
 
How is Karl "meh"? The guy is undoubtedly a superior coach to Malone. My lord, I feel if people on here believe if we don't get Phil Jackson or Pop, we are doomed.
If Karl was 10 years younger and healthy, Yea, you'd probably have to take him. I don't love his style (despite 9 playoff seasons in Denver, only out of first round once) but I don't know if he is a reliable coaching option at his age with his medical history. It's just the reality of his situation. I obviously hope him nothing but the best