Yi Jianlian

i cant believe how bad losing the tie breaker was for us.... we have the worst luck. The freakn bulls ! why do they have to have the same needs as us!?!?

if any big falls to 9......... bulls will grab them.... the bulls should trade for kobe that way i could really hate them when the season starts

I would like Noah, but Hawes doesn't fit our needs for a big man anyway. Otherwise all the really good big men are probably long gone by the time the Bulls pick anyway.

At the least, I don't think we have to worry too much about the Bulls taking Yi, though anything is possible. The Bulls are in a "win soon" mode, and will be more interested in Hawes and Noah. Yi is a good player, but I think it is a given at this point that he is going to struggle more than those two to adjust. Every younger player takes time to adjust, but I just think Yi is a three year project before he is ready to contribute anything meaningful as he works with NBA level strength/conditioning coaches and generally adjusts to the NBA. No biggie for a rebuilding team like we are, but the Bulls would probably be rather impatient by then.
 
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I really can't see Yi falling to us. He just has too much upside. Similar to what Brick posted, I'd be all over him with the 10 and I would do my best to trade up for him. Since when do you find 7 footers with a 38 inch vert?? Stoudemire, not quite 7' and I'm guessing his vert isn't higher than 38, if at all. I'm not proclaiming him to be Stoudemire or to have his explosiveness, but Yi is very athletic with some nice moves and a tonne of room to become a very good player.
 
I really can't see Yi falling to us. He just has too much upside. Similar to what Brick posted, I'd be all over him with the 10 and I would do my best to trade up for him. Since when do you find 7 footers with a 38 inch vert?? Stoudemire, not quite 7' and I'm guessing his vert isn't higher than 38, if at all. I'm not proclaiming him to be Stoudemire or to have his explosiveness, but Yi is very athletic with some nice moves and a tonne of room to become a very good player.

I agree, having to fall that many spots, especially with some teams wanting to trade up it's a long shot.

I believe that Yi will be great, he really is a more athletic Dirk Nowitzki, I understand he has nowhere near the range or rebounding ability...yet. Dirk wasn't a great rebounder early in his career either and Yi may only be an average 3 point shooter right now, from what I hear he is improving.
 
Suppose somehow both Yi and Noah are there at #10. Who would you pick? Do you gamble on the talented 7 footer who plays against weaker competition or do you go with a proven winner? Personally i would take Noah simply because he has proved himself and Yi is too much of a gamble. Yi isn't as strong as Noah nor is his defense as good. We need a low post presence not a 7 footer with a shooting guards mentality. If Petrie were to end up in this situation, he would have a difficult decision to make.
 
Suppose somehow both Yi and Noah are there at #10. Who would you pick? Do you gamble on the talented 7 footer who plays against weaker competition or do you go with a proven winner? Personally i would take Noah simply because he has proved himself and Yi is too much of a gamble. Yi isn't as strong as Noah nor is his defense as good. We need a low post presence not a 7 footer with a shooting guards mentality. If Petrie were to end up in this situation, he would have a difficult decision to make.

Take Yi, no brainer. I doubt that's possible though, either Noah or Yi will be taken at 9 before our pick.
 
Take Yi, no brainer. I doubt that's possible though, either Noah or Yi will be taken at 9 before our pick.

Its not that simple, it is hard for any team to rely on a foreign player that really hasn't proved anything. He is athletic and his jumping ability is freakish for a 7 footer. Reports say he doesn't have much of an inside game, but he can shoot. He isnt a good defender though he can be solid if he bulks up a bit. Noah just seems more proven IMO. But if Petrie gambled on Yi i would definetely understand why i just hope he knows something we don't.
 
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Its not that simple, it is hard for any team to rely on a foreign player that really hasn't proved anything. He is athletic and his jumping ability is freakish for a 7 footer. Reports say he doesn't have much of an inside game, but he can shoot. He isnt a good defender though he can be solid if he bulks up a bit. Noah just seems more proven IMO. But if Petrie gambled on Yi i would definetely understand why i just hope he knows something we don't.

It's a no brainer because we need a potential impact player on both ends, Yi can be that. It's unlikely Noah develops into anything more than an average offensive player. We need a star player, not a role playing starter. As far as whether Yi has an inside game or not, he has as much of an inside game as Pau Gasol did when he came into the league. There aren't many low post players in the league anymore, they're all hi post players like Yi.
 
Great article at SI.com. Looks like Petrie & Co. are very interested in Yi.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/writers/the_bonus/06/20/Yi/index.html

Here's the first third of the article:

China's next big thing

Athletic and possessing a sweet shot, Yi Jianlian follows Yao as the latest Chinese import in the NBA

Posted: Friday June 22, 2007 9:43AM; Updated: Friday June 22, 2007 9:43AM

Chinese star Jianlian will likely be a top 10 draft pick, but he's much different than countryman Yao.
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By Chris Mannix, SI.com
It is a warm and sunny June afternoon in Los Angeles when Yi Jianlian shows up for a workout. There is little fanfare accompanying the arrival of China's latest U.S. export, just a dutiful manager trailing him through the double doors of L.A.'s Home Depot Center and a trainer patiently waiting for him on the other side. Ever since China first approved Yi's entrance into the NBA draft last November, people have wondered if Yi is the next Yao Ming.
The answer is an emphatic no. Though Yi will likely be the highest Chinese draft pick since Yao in 2002 -- Boston likely won't pass on him at No. 5, and should he slip to No. 10, Sacramento would almost select him -- he has very little in common with Asia's most famous import. It doesn't take much more than a look at him to figure that out.
With Nickelback's Far Away blaring in the background, Yi begins to warm up. Stretching is followed by wind sprints as Yi slowly begins to work up a sweat. He pauses when he spots a contingent from the Sacramento Kings, led by president of basketball operations Geoff Petrie, walk onto the floor. He approaches the group and exchanges handshakes as well as rudimentary greetings he has learned in the two months he has spent in the U.S. learning the English language. He accepts a pair of Kings shorts and a sleeveless T-shirt from Petrie with a smile, quickly slipping them on and adding them to what has already become an extensive collection of apparel. His body, particularly his muscular legs and a wispy upper half that fill out his 7-foot, 248-pound frame, bear a striking resemblance to Yao, who is 7-6. But that is where the comparisons end.
"He doesn't look 19, does he?" remarks an onlooker as Yi begins his warmup routine. Certainly not, as a 7-5 wingspan, a dead jump of 33 inches, a three-step leap of 37 inches and 3.5 percent body fat make Yi more man than child. In fact, no one is entirely sure how old Yi is. Reports have varied from his stated age of 19 (the Chinese national team roster lists his date of birth as Oct. 27, 1987) to as old as 22. But as Yi resumes his workout it becomes increasingly clear that his remarkable talent makes any questions about his age nearly irrelevant.
Under the watchful eye of trainer Jarin Akana, Yi begins his workout routine with a steady diet of perimeter jumpers. Alongside journeyman center Matt Knight, who has been recruited to be Yi's sparring partner these last two months, Yi fires up shot after shot with many (if not most) making a clean swishing sound as it meets the bottom of the net. He steps back behind the three-point line and continues to launch, each make furiously recorded by a member of the Sacramento staff. It's a sweet stroke that, when coupled with his size and athleticism, makes Yi's game reminiscent of that of 2006 top overall pick Andrea Bargnani. When asked by Akana to showcase his finishing skills, Yi catches the ball several feet behind the foul line, and in a graceful yet explosive motion takes one dribble and finishes with an emphatic dunk at the rim. No, Yi has no aversion to dunking.
"The thing I like about him is that he does all the basketball related stuff really well," says Petrie. "He's pretty good at everything. That's what you're looking for first in a player."
There is no question Yi is not the prototypical center Yao was when he made the leap to the NBA in 2002. "I see him as a power forward in the NBA," says trainer Joe Abunassar, who was hired last October by Yi's agent, Dan Fegan, to oversee Yi's physical development. "He's going to be a matchup problem. When he catches the ball 12-15 feet from the basket, he's going to be dangerous."
Says one high-ranking league executive, "He has the athleticism of a Kenyon Martin or Richard Jefferson. But his skills are more advanced than either of them when they were drafted."
Following the 60-minute workout Yi, his new shirt drenched with sweat, departs for the second stage of his audition: a debriefing with Kings officials who use the time to interview the prized prospect who has yet to be vetted by the American media. There, at a local restaurant, Yi will answer a barrage of questions ranging from his hobbies to his experiences with alcohol and marijuana. For China's next big thing, it's all part of the process.
 
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It's a hard choice to make. Noah does some things better than Yi, but i wouldnt mind either of them. Talent wise, Yi has Noah by a mile. I would be fine with either of them. If we get Yi i just hope it is worthwhile.
 
Sounds like if he's at 10 we'll take him, if they expect him to be taken earlier I wonder if at all possible they would try and trade up or we have nothing to give anyone...
 
Boston likely won't pass on him at No. 5, and should he slip to No. 10, Sacramento would almost select him -- he has very little in common with Asia's most famous import.

So, Danny Ainge is on the hot, hot seat in Boston. The fans are sick of seeing new high #1 picks with no progress in site. His draft slot sucks because of the ping-pong balls. More fan dissapointment. He tries to make the big splash with Garnett. It fails. More fan dissapointment. Now he's looking at Yi - high upside, high risk. And there's talk about Yi needing to somewhere with a significant Chinese contingent. Last time I heard, Boston and Massachusetts aren't known for the Shanghai connection. Does Ainge want to make that pick? Hell no! If anything, he now wants to trade out of his slot even more desperately than he did before the Garnett blow-up. And if he does make that pick, does he go the high risk Yi? I doubt it very much.
 
Outside of the top 5 (Atlanta & Boston seems to be the most interested), Chicago is the most likely team to select Yi for themself. At 9, they would be looking for BPA, since there are no impact post players left. An aggressive GS could mess things up by offering Biedrins, or O'Bryant, and maybe even Richardson with their pick to a team ahead of us. Minny, Charlotte, and Chicago could all bite on such a deal.

Chicago needs a legit back to the basket low post player: Hawes.
 
Suppose somehow both Yi and Noah are there at #10. Who would you pick? Do you gamble on the talented 7 footer who plays against weaker competition or do you go with a proven winner? Personally i would take Noah simply because he has proved himself and Yi is too much of a gamble. Yi isn't as strong as Noah nor is his defense as good. We need a low post presence not a 7 footer with a shooting guards mentality. If Petrie were to end up in this situation, he would have a difficult decision to make.
Yi without a hint of hesitation!
 
Chicago needs a legit back to the basket low post player: Hawes.
I still think that Minnesota will pick Hawes. I just hope that Noah is there at 9 so that we end up with Yi.

A 7'1" PF with a wingspan of 7'4" and a vertical of 38 inches is pretty impressive. Now add to that his shooting ability, quick feet and you pretty much have a genuine star in the making. Yi has one low post move, a fade away jumper. If he can add another 1 or 2 over the next 2-3 years you have a complete player on the offensive end. He is tall enough and athletic enough and has quick feet so he has just about all the pre-requisites to be a good dfensive player.

Gasol didn't play any defence when he first came into the league. Now he is a good defender. I just don't think that Yi will be a liability at defensive end like some people are suggesting.
 
Gasol didn't play any defence when he first came into the league. Now he is a good defender. I just don't think that Yi will be a liability at defensive end like some people are suggesting.

He'll be good enough, that's for sure. It's not like there is a lot of defense in the NBA anymore. Amare, for example, plays none at all and everyone gushes over him. I'm still hoping that Petrie will move Artest pre-draft for a package that will include a late teens/early twenties pick. We could use that on a guy like Splitter, who will absolutely play some hellacious defense and rebound the ball. That would be a nice, young, run-oriented frontcourt.
 
He'll be good enough, that's for sure. It's not like there is a lot of defense in the NBA anymore. Amare, for example, plays none at all and everyone gushes over him. I'm still hoping that Petrie will move Artest pre-draft for a package that will include a late teens/early twenties pick. We could use that on a guy like Splitter, who will absolutely play some hellacious defense and rebound the ball. That would be a nice, young, run-oriented frontcourt.
I agree and everyone that questions Yi's rebounding and defensive potential would jump at the opportunity to have Amare on our roster ;)

I think Splitter is looming as somewhat of a bargain pick and I am sure he will be picked up by a team that has 2 or more 1st round picks (Philly or Charlotte) or by a team like the Spurs that don't exactly need him now and can wait a year or two for his european contract to run out or have a reasonable buyout.

If we could get Yi at 10 and then a pick later in the 1st to get Splitter I would be stoked. Splitter would stay over in europe for another year, maybe two and when you are ready to make a push towards the play offs you have a ready made player to plug into the line up and play.

I am just hoping that

a) Yi is there at 10
b) Petrie gets another 1st round pick
 
I could see the Spurs picking up Splitter. He would seem like a typical Spur-type of player, already having Beno, Parker, Ginobilli and Oberto fron overseas.
 
I could see the Spurs picking up Splitter. He would seem like a typical Spur-type of player, already having Beno, Parker, Ginobilli and Oberto fron overseas.

Won't be around by their pick though.

As an aside, am nervous about Phoenix's apparently fervent attempts to move back into the top 10 in this draft. One of their targets could be Yi I would think. Would majorly suck to have a legit shot at him, only to have a contending team in out division get aggressive, shoot in out of left field, and swoop down to nab him before he falls to us.
 
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If Yi really is that good, we're fools to sit back and hope to get him at 10. We better be doing damn well everything in our power to try and trade up, because if he develops into half the player it is claimed he will, our frontline would be set. With the Kings luck, Chicago will take him at #9...

Of course, I find it hard to believe that lanky 7 footer, with a 38" vertical, an all around game, and a pretty jumpshot will make it past the top 5.
 
Of course, I find it hard to believe that lanky 7 footer, with a 38" vertical, an all around game, and a pretty jumpshot will make it past the top 5.

As do I. Still not buying it wihtout some significant interference from the Chinese. I can see one or two teams reaching/missing. But you need about 5 or 6 to do it to get him all the way to us. And I agree about moving up. If it were not for Geoff's historical tendency to just sit on his picks, take BPA and go home, I would be hoping that we have had conversationes with nearly every team ahead of us looking for contingencies. I know on draft day I am not going to entirely give up hope even if Yi/Horford/Wright are all off the board until well after our own pick -- will keep on hoping/wishing to hear the "we have a trade to announce" line that Boston or whoever actually took him for us.
 
I guess I'm in the minority because I'm not THAT impressed with Yi Jianlian. I keep remembering how much hype accompanied Wang Zhizhi and how poorly he did in the NBA.
 
OH MY GOD ! THE DRAFT IS NEAR ! we are a mess ! will there be the firework show of trades and mulit picks, or trading up or down?

Ok now that i got that outa the way.

something that really impressed me about Y is that he had more dunks than Yao ever did in a season. he doesnt seem to shy away from contact he just needs to add size..... in this video here you can see the dunk Pau Gasol made he would have put down on almost anyone in the NBA but in a very Bynum vs Shaq moment Y took it right back and clowned Pau by blowing right by him and dunked it right back. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fVJpeo7PvE

I really like vid because Pau is an NBA all-star and Y took it right back at him.

Y looks like the real deal.... and just like when KG came into the league he will take a bit to get his feet wet and to add a little size. but Y could be a huge Franchise player. hes so quick that he would blow by bigger PF's. and hes too tall for SF's to guard him.

Think about this as a business move. this is the best one the kings could hope for, China as a partner? has anyone seen the attention Yao gets and the support for Y would be the same. the maloofs would be making lots of money of this guy. and we already got the blessing from Y's camp to draft him so....... I would love to have this guy, in fact i would be sad if we didnt get him. with Oden and KDurant getting all the attention this is a steal for us if we could make it happen. Y could have been the #1 next year


if the bulls end up taking him at the 9th spot.... wow i dunno.... that would be rough....... the clipper game, losing the tie breaker, MUSS! i would be so pissed !
 
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Do we know if Yi will even play in Sacramento?

I know he wouldn't work out for the Bucks. Anywho, the Celts appear to be interested in him unless that's just draft day smoke...
 
Do we know if Yi will even play in Sacramento?

I know he wouldn't work out for the Bucks. Anywho, the Celts appear to be interested in him unless that's just draft day smoke...

We're on the approved list since Geoff has seen him work out.
 
I guess I'm in the minority because I'm not THAT impressed with Yi Jianlian. I keep remembering how much hype accompanied Wang Zhizhi and how poorly he did in the NBA.


No comparison.

People keep on making comparisons to the only Chinese guys who have made it in the NBA just because they are Chinese. Its like that old Peja/Bird thing. White, 6'9", = must be alike.

I don't actually remember much hype about Wang, but his game, at least at the time, was completely different. A lumbering perimeter shooter.

I know its hard to judge when you have dialup and can't see the vids and just have to rely on media prattle, but Yi is much closer to a young Garnett than a Wang Zhizhi. Doesn't mean he'll be as good, but 7 footers just don't move like this guy moves, and not with those kind of skills. He's a better, more fluid athlete than Pau, a far better one than Dirk, and he attacks the rim like nobody's business. Apparently set the record as the greatest dunker in CBA history, which may not say that much, but nonetheless underscores how far away he is from his historical compatriots.
 
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I guess I'm in the minority because I'm not THAT impressed with Yi Jianlian. I keep remembering how much hype accompanied Wang Zhizhi and how poorly he did in the NBA.
I hear you and I would NEVER make predictions on unproven tallent, but it is prety clear that Yi is no Wang. He has seen internatioal paly that Wang never saw, and has displayed a skill set Wang never displayed.

Like other posters I seriously question a true 7 footer with skills droping all the way to 10, and if he does you jsut HAVE to take him. I would also love to see GP break with tradition and go after him, OR one of the other legit bigs, It could very well be that the Chinese governemnt IS activly monekying arround behind the sceans to help assure a locationa nd Sac might benifit.
 
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