Yahoo reporting Minnesota has signed Sessions to an offer sheet

[Capt. Factorial]

Not officially announced, so it could be bogus.

But still, Minnesota is trying to stock up on PGs even harder than I try to stock up on RBs in fantasy football...

 

[LPKingsFan]

4 years, 16 million? That's super cheap--even if he ends up backing up Flynn. I'm shocked the Bucks wouldn't match this.

 

[Bricklayer]

Kahn is just ridiculous. Kurt got his 4 yr deal, but I still pity him working underneath an amateur GM who practically has "trying too hard" stamped across his stationary.

 

[MassachusettsKingsFan]

This is dissapointing. I'd take him for 4 mil a year even though we already have 3pgs.

This is exactly why I want us to sign David Lee. We need a 3rd big, Lee can play Center and PF and while he isnt a good defender he is a top rebounder. A player of David Lee's age and skill will never be this cheap again, and I dont know why we arent taking advatage of this as were one of the only teams with cap space.

I understand why people want a defensive third big, but its not that important at this stage of the rebuild. We are still at the 'get as much young talent as you can' stage and a young PF/C who can rebound and score INSIDE is a good investment.

With Hawes, JT, and Lee as our bigs we have a great young bigman core, and as we get better we can trade one of them away for something that will really put us over the top and then get that defensive player, but as of right now If we can get Lee at a discount price I dont know why we arent going after him.

Wow .. that went way off topic.

 

[VF21]

This is dissapointing. I'd take him for 4 mil a year even though we already have 3pgs.

This is exactly why I want us to sign David Lee. We need a 3rd big, Lee can play Center and PF and while he isnt a good defender he is a top rebounder. A player of David Lee's age and skill will never be this cheap again, and I dont know why we arent taking advatage of this as were one of the only teams with cap space.

I understand why people want a defensive third big, but its not that important at this stage of the rebuild. We are still at the 'get as much young talent as you can' stage and a young PF/C who can rebound and score INSIDE is a good investment.

With Hawes, JT, and Lee as our bigs we have a great young bigman core, and as we get better we can trade one of them away for something that will really put us over the top and then get that defensive player, but as of right now If we can get Lee at a discount price I dont know why we arent going after him.

Wow .. that went way off topic.

LOL!

It might have gone way off topic, but it makes a fair amount of sense.

 

[Trueblood]

I doubt Milwaukee matches simply because they are up against the luxury tax.

Great move for Minnesota. Had they not signed Sessions, they most likely would've had to keep Atkins and his 3.9 million salary. By signing Sessions, they can get rid of Atkins by way of buyout that's already written in his contract. Now they will only pay him around 1.6 so by saving 2.3 million, Sessions' first year salary of 3.5 million looks like just 1.2 million. No brainer all around.

From purely a bball standpoint, he's perfect because he's starter material if Flynn isn't ready but is more than willing to come off the bench and not complain in the event that Flynn is ready to roll.

 

[Capt. Factorial]

It might have gone way off topic, but it makes a fair amount of sense.

It does make sense from our standpoint, but I'm convinced we can't make it happen. We've only got $5.3M now, so technically we're over the cap unless we renounce our MLE, which is like $5.8M.

That means that any way you look at it, $5.8M is the most we can offer Lee straight up, and he's known to be looking for more like $10M+. Despite the fact that his qualifying offer is only $2.7M, I wouldn't be surprised if he just took it and tried to cash in next year (like Ben Gordon did last year...and it worked out for him just fine at 5/$55M, thankyouverymuch). Unlike this year, there's some real cap space out there next summer (the whole LeBron sweepstakes thing) so Lee can be relatively sure that he'll find somebody to spend big $$ on him. Unless he can find someone to give him a one year MLE contract or a sign-and-trade for his desired $10M+, I think he'll just take the qualifying offer.

Anyway, the whole idea was: Sessions just signed an offer sheet for cheap, it would be a great idea to for us to sign Lee to an offer sheet for cheap. Agreed, but Lee won't do it. He either cashes in this year, or sets himself up to cash in next year. He simply won't be had for cheap unless it's a one year contract, and that doesn't help us. Or we could try to find a sign-and-trade that gives Lee $10M+, but I don't think that's particularly helpful to us, either.

 

[King Baller]

I doubt Milwaukee matches simply because they are up against the luxury tax.

Great move for Minnesota. Had they not signed Sessions, they most likely would've had to keep Atkins and his 3.9 million salary. By signing Sessions, they can get rid of Atkins by way of buyout. Now they will only pay him around 1.6 so by saving 2.3 million, Sessions' first year salary of 3.5 million looks like just 1.2 million. No brainer all around.

From purely a bball standpoint, he's perfect because he's starter material if Flynn isn't ready but is more than willing to come off the bench and not complain in the even that Flynn is ready to roll.

I agree, yes, yes and yes

Kahn misses out on Rubio for now and comes back with Sessions. Thats pretty strong right there. Some folks are calling Kahn names but the guy is doing stuff, only time will tell if enough of the stuff is good for the T-pups to improve.

KB

 

[kennadog]

I agree, yes, yes and yes

Kahn misses out on Rubio for now and comes back with Sessions. Thats pretty strong right there. Some folks are calling Kahn names but the guy is doing stuff, only time will tell if enough of the stuff is good for the T-pups to improve.

KB

As long as we don't confuse doing "stuff" as automatically better than doing nothing. It could be a lot of "sound and fury signifying nothing." A lot of that goes on all the time.

 

[Gary]

Freaking a........

Cannot believe that the Kings didn't even try.. I guess they are really committed to this Evans kid playing PG.

 

[Bricklayer]

I agree, yes, yes and yes

Kahn misses out on Rubio for now and comes back with Sessions. Thats pretty strong right there. Some folks are calling Kahn names but the guy is doing stuff, only time will tell if enough of the stuff is good for the T-pups to improve.

KB

What Kahn is doing is loading up on an impossible number of PGs because he apparently has a fetish.

 

[Insomniacal Fan]

Maybe he's trying to corner the market on PGs, stockpiling them before "Point Guard Winter" hits, and everybody will be desparately trying to parlay their Blake Griffins and their Greg Odens into somebody that can dribble the ball over the half-court line.

 

[Capt. Factorial]

Cannot believe that the Kings didn't even try.

How do you know they didn't?

 

[DoDiGaG0]

great move by Minni.

hate the "stockloading on PG's argument" because he took the best player available @ the draft and added Sessions at a really really good price(especially w/ the Atkins buy out)

he now has 3 very movable pieces that can arrange any way he wants.

 

[AriesMar27]

How do you know they didn't?

how do you know that he did? i hate when people make that excuse for petrie... how do you know that he wasn't sitting on the toilet copping a squat and reading the newspaper. he probably just read the news himself and thought that he should have made an offer.

 

[Warhawk]

how do you know that he did? i hate when people make that excuse for petrie...

And I hate it when people are hypocritical. You don't know any more than the rest of us, and your assertion that we didn't go after him has no more validity than the arguement that we did.

 

[kingsnation]

great move by Minni.

hate the "stockloading on PG's argument" because he took the best player available @ the draft and added Sessions at a really really good price(especially w/ the Atkins buy out)

he now has 3 very movable pieces that can arrange any way he wants.

Yep, I agree.

 

[Capt. Factorial]

how do you know that he did? i hate when people make that excuse for petrie... how do you know that he wasn't sitting on the toilet copping a squat and reading the newspaper. he probably just read the news himself and thought that he should have made an offer.

Please. I never once said that he did. There is a difference between asking for (pointing out that there is no) factual support for a statement and asserting its negation. I did the former, not the latter. As far as I'm concerned, whether or not the Kings went after Sessions is an unknown until someone with actual knowledge of the situation speaks up (and on subjects like that, they rarely do).

Now, is that easy enough to follow, or are you going to come up with another Petrie-on-the-toilet comeback?

 

[AriesMar27]

Please. I never once said that he did. There is a difference between asking for (pointing out that there is no) factual support for a statement and asserting its negation. I did the former, not the latter. As far as I'm concerned, whether or not the Kings went after Sessions is an unknown until someone with actual knowledge of the situation speaks up (and on subjects like that, they rarely do).

Now, is that easy enough to follow, or are you going to come up with another Petrie-on-the-toilet comeback?

i never said that you did... i just said that i hate when people make that excuse everytime someone says that they wished that petrie had done it. the knicks were going after sessions and we knew it because there were reports every other day about it. we knew at one point that the clippers were interested at one point because it was reported that they were. no one mentioned the kings doing anything this offseason except signing sean may. the only thing that the kings did this offseason was sign sean may.

if the kings were interested it would have been mentioned, sessions' agent wouldve used it as leverage because the kings actually had capspace and needed a pg. the grizzlies and bobcats were interested in iverson and were the only teams mentioned in being interested in him. oddly enough the grizzlies offered him a contract.

if there was no news that petrie was interested in someone there is a good chance that he wasnt interested and didnt make a move. if petrie had offered sessions anything there wouldve been news about it. im sure he knew about sessions being available, we all did.... but he didnt want to make an offer to him. he chose to do nothing.... as usual.

 

[VF21]

i never said that you did... i just said that i hate when people make that excuse everytime someone says that they wished that petrie had done it. the knicks were going after sessions and we knew it because there were reports every other day about it. we knew at one point that the clippers were interested at one point because it was reported that they were. no one mentioned the kings doing anything this offseason except signing sean may. the only thing that the kings did this offseason was sign sean may.

if the kings were interested it would have been mentioned, sessions' agent wouldve used it as leverage because the kings actually had capspace and needed a pg. the grizzlies and bobcats were interested in iverson and were the only teams mentioned in being interested in him. oddly enough the grizzlies offered him a contract.

if there was no news that petrie was interested in someone there is a good chance that he wasnt interested and didnt make a move. if petrie had offered sessions anything there wouldve been news about it. im sure he knew about sessions being available, we all did.... but he didnt want to make an offer to him. he chose to do nothing.... as usual.

The Kings front office NEVER likes to see their negotiations, if there are any, go public. Most agents realize that and do not leak stuff to the press. The ones who do are the exception, not the rule.

Sorry, but you're speaking totally without any basis in fact and, because the basketball ops people won't publicly refute it you can continue to act as though you know nothing was going on...

If you want to believe that, feel free to do so but it's myopic at best. There are probably 10 phone calls made that are never made public for every one that is. Just because someone didn't send you a memo about them doesn't mean they didn't happen.

 

[Gary]

How do you know they didn't?

Just saying.. The Kings offer Beno more than someone who in a couple seasons has already proven he's miles ahead of him?

If the Kings had any interest we would have heard something in re: to some actual numbers. I think Minny lowballed him and if the Kings cannot match a lowball offer then imo they didn't try. Take it for what it's worth.. If you think he tried then your definition of try is much different than mine.

Just like last year when teams were handing out late 1st and 2nd round picks for minimal cash when we could have picked up guys like Chalmers, and Jordan. Do I know Petrie didn't try? Not 100% but if he did then he didn't try too hard.

 

[Gary]

The Kings front office NEVER likes to see their negotiations, if there are any, go public. Most agents realize that and do not leak stuff to the press. The ones who do are the exception, not the rule.

Sorry, but you're speaking totally without any basis in fact and, because the basketball ops people won't publicly refute it you can continue to act as though you know nothing was going on...

If you want to believe that, feel free to do so but it's myopic at best. There are probably 10 phone calls made that are never made public for every one that is. Just because someone didn't send you a memo about them doesn't mean they didn't happen.

The point I tried to make is that if they can offer a subpar PG 6-7mil a year for 5 years and not even offer a far superior PG more than 4mil a year then they didn't try.. Or they weren't interested.. Either way BOOOOOOOO PETRIE!

 

[VF21]

yeah, whatever...

Sorry, but there's another possibility which I know you would never even consider. Perhaps they don't think they have to spend more money on a PG right now, considering we have Tyreke AND Sergio. They might actually be focusing their efforts on shoring up our frontcourt, you know?

Sorry, but this blanket condemnation of Petrie everytime someone doesn't agree with the non-acquisition (or apparent non-attempt at acquisition) of a player is just silly IMHO. If Petrie had actually gotten some of the players people on here have been so gung-ho about during TDOS we might be in an even bigger mess than we are now.

It's a matter of vision - you have one vision of what you want the Kings to do but you're only seeing a corner of the big picture. It's Petrie's vision that matters - and it's Petrie's vision (finally, from what's been said) the Maloofs are going with right now. If it doesn't pan out, then I'm pretty sure we're looking at a new GM sooner rather than later anyway.

 

[AriesMar27]

It's a matter of vision - you have one vision of what you want the Kings to do but you're only seeing a corner of the big picture. It's Petrie's vision that matters - and it's Petrie's vision (finally, from what's been said) the Maloofs are going with right now. If it doesn't pan out, then I'm pretty sure we're looking at a new GM sooner rather than later anyway.

then petrie needs to either get lasik surgery or new glasses... his vision has been almost as bad as the court vision of his pg selections...

 

[Geoff]

then petrie needs to either get lasik surgery or new glasses... his vision has been almost as bad as the court vision of his pg selections...

strong words, since we haven't even seen the team in action yet...

 

[kingsnation]

then petrie needs to either get lasik surgery or new glasses... his vision has been almost as bad as the court vision of his pg selections...

Mike Bibby and Bobby Jackson?

 

[AriesMar27]

Mike Bibby and Bobby Jackson?

exactly, so you agree with me?

its been a decade since jwill was drafted, he was exciting but erract at times throwing all kinds of crazy passes... but besides him, which point guards have played for this team with great or even really good court vision? i loved having bibby on this team, he was a good pg... but seriously, he wasnt on the same level as chris paul. he owned steve nash but nash is still a much better passer.... he sees the floor a lot better than bibby ever would.

c'mon, it was a fairly accurate comparison....

 

[VF21]

strong words, since we haven't even seen the team in action yet...

Exactly. But hey, why wait until we actually see them play when you can second-guess the front office every step of the way?

 

[kingsnation]

exactly, so you agree with me?

No.

 

[Chupacabra]

I didnt really care to see the Kings sign him anyway. As mentioned before why try to acquire a point guard when you just attained 2 new ones that havent even played for the team yet? What kind of a GM adds 3 point guards in one off season when one of the teams biggest issues is rebounding and interior defense? A very silly GM. If we did sign Sessions then Sergio would have been a total waste of a contract. Save money and see how your draft pick fairs Petrie, you da man! I know you'll read this...lol...