Would you take Micheal Beasley for free?

Eh...Dude is a tweener foward, and the bad kind.
I think JT and Landry are better at the 4, and I prefer the potential of Greene and Omri at the 3.

Beasley busting totally serves the Heat right though. That was such a blatant tank job they had that season. They traded all their good players away for scrubs, sat Wade like forever, and then I remember Riley (who was then head coach) actually left the team to scout prospects with a month or two left in the season. F the Heat and lolz to Micheal Bustley.
 
1 week ago, I would. As of now, we don't have enough vets to keep these non-fully matured kids accountable.

If I was BOS or SAS, I would go after him.
 
I would. I think there is a pretty good chance he becomes a good player. He can slide to the 3 and Landry could be gone after next year. Stockpile the talent IMO, can't have enough. He could at the very least be a trade chip down the line and the cost is minimal. We may even be able to get a draft pick out of them as well.
 
TTown Kings said:
I would. I think there is a pretty good chance he becomes a good player. He can slide to the 3 and Landry could be gone after next year. Stockpile the talent IMO, can't have enough. He could at the very least be a trade chip down the line and the cost is minimal. We may even be able to get a draft pick out of them as well.
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If the Heat can't even GIVE him away, then he doesn't sound like much of a trade chip to me
 
Feasible game plan if you are Miami:

Package Beasley and Chalmers and call New Orleans. Convince Bower that Beasley is the second coming, and offer the Chalmer-Beasley package for a CP3-Emeka Okafor package. Chalmers-Beasley makes about 6 mil, and I think the CP3-Okafor combo makes 22 mil or something. Anyway, Miami has about 45 million in capspace, so they can absorb the contract. Leaving them with close to 32 million left, which they can use to sign another max free agent, the preference being Bosh.

They go ahead and sign one of the Bosh/Boozer/Stoudemire guys, and Wade WILL come back. You can go over the cap to sign your own guys I think, so they can max him out too, and then try and find some veteran fillers to play off the bench. A Matt Barnes here, a Steve Blake there, a Dominic McGuire elsewhere.

their venom_7 dream lineup would look like this:

CP3/Blake/Scheyer (UDFA)
Wade/Bell/McCants
Barnes/QRich/Udoka
Bosh/Varnado
Okafor/Pittman/Anthony

I just threw in some names that will probably be available at the minimum. Bosh is a deference type of player, and I think Chris Paul and Dwayne Wade would mix really well together. Okafor wouldn't have to score... ever, so he can just block shots and rebound and guard Dwight Howard and Andrew Bynum. Barnes is a good fit, decent defender, can hit the three. All you need from a role player here.
 
UK_King said:
As long as he doesn't want any wages... im down with it!
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Ha ha! I doubt he'll play for free. He's owed a little over 6 mil next year and a qualifing offer of 8 mil the following year.. That doesn't sound exactly free to me. He's a tweener, and has yet to establish a position for himself. We have two PF's and two and a half SF's if you count Cisco in the mix. So we don't need him. We would be asking the Maloof's to pick up his 6 mil contract just for the hell of it. Thereby reducing the amout of cap space we would have. Somehow, I just don't think the Maloof's would be down with it..
 
I really dont see the negatives in taking a look at the number 2 pick 3 yrs ago. Now admittingly he is a tweener and a knucklehead but you cant deny the potential there in having a guy with that skillset. This team is a far from finsihed product and with alot of question marks..

This kid admitted that he wished he stayed in college and that basketball isnt fun anymore whatever that means. I can tell you for sure that maybe coming to a team where there isnt much pressure to win or for him to be dwades number two all the while failing to meet the hype of being a number 2 pick. I wouldnt call this dude a bust just yet hes just caught in a franchise that cant afford to wait on him to develop we could though.
 
No but I would facilitate a deal to land a PG/SG type(s) of player(s).


Heat give: Beasley/Chalmers
Heat get: TPE+ 2 Future 2nd rounders

Denver gives: Afflalo, Lawson, Balkman, 2011 2nd rounder
Denver gets: Beasley, Chalmers

Kings give: TPE + 2011 2nd rounder
Kings get: Lawson, Afflalo and Balkman


Kings new roster:
C: Dalembert, Cousins, Whiteside
PF: Landry, Thompson, Brockman
SF: Greene, Casspi, Balkman
SG: Garcia, Afflalo
PG: Evans, Udrih, Lawson
 
A year ago at this time when our best SF looked to be Noc and our only legit PF was JT, the Beasely discussions were interesting. But the worm has turned and there comes a time when you have to look at your roster at those spots and say "this is good" and ignore a Michael Beasely. He is the anti of everything we are trying to do here. Small, tweener, knucklehead, I could probably drop 30 on his "defense", and this is down in Riley/Spolestra land where defense is preached constantly. There may be a team out there so shy of talent at the 4/3 that taking all that on is worth the potential upside, but its not us. I would rather have no fewer than 5 seperate players on our roster over him at those spots (Landry, Thompson, Whiteside, Green, Casspi). You don't just randomly add knuckleheads onto your roster who aren't going to play much and become a distraction, nor do you squish maybe the most promising young frontcourt in the game to bring in an outsider without a position who is no younger than the guys you already have. This is not our train.
 
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I'm just amazed at how much of a bust he has turned out to be. All the scouting and projections of this guy were so far off- I'm just stunned.
 
Were they?

He's just too small. Clasic college star problem. That's before we get to the headcase issues. And Miami knew it BEFORE they drafted him. If you remember correctly they were trying to trade out fo the #2 spot that year because they felt like they had to take Beasely and they weren't convinced he would be a star. I think the main reason they hung in was just in case the Bulls screwed up and Rose fell to #2.
 
Smills91 said:
No but I would facilitate a deal to land a PG/SG type(s) of player(s).


Heat give: Beasley/Chalmers
Heat get: TPE+ 2 Future 2nd rounders

Denver gives: Afflalo, Lawson, Balkman, 2011 2nd rounder
Denver gets: Beasley, Chalmers

Kings give: TPE + 2011 2nd rounder
Kings get: Lawson, Afflalo and Balkman


Kings new roster:
C: Dalembert, Cousins, Whiteside
PF: Landry, Thompson, Brockman
SF: Greene, Casspi, Balkman
SG: Garcia, Afflalo
PG: Evans, Udrih, Lawson
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we'd have to squeeze a unprotected future 1st outta miami for this to remotely work. all we get is lawson for taking on 3 players & we give up capspace & pick! remember, miami is not the one in position of power. they NEED someone to take beasley off their hands so they can go on their quest for 3 superstars.
 
Dude whatever. Lawson is high quality and I think Afflalo is a gem as well. Balkman is cheap and just fills the CBA portion of the deal. He's a solid role player, a typical 12th or 13th man. Getting Lawson AND Afflalo would solidify our back court and cheaply! This is a no-brainer. Trying to extract a 1st rounder at the expense of this deal is just dumb.
 
Yeah they were- there was a lot of hype surrounding Beasley. He was called the best player in the draft many times and it was said Chicago drafted Rose because of the hometown connection. I never really saw it in Beasley myself, and that was just from his game not his psyche, but it's not my job.
 
Bricklayer said:
Were they?

He's just too small. Clasic college star problem. That's before we get to the headcase issues. And Miami knew it BEFORE they drafted him. If you remember correctly they were trying to trade out fo the #2 spot that year because they felt like they had to take Beasely and they weren't convinced he would be a star. I think the main reason they hung in was just in case the Bulls screwed up and Rose fell to #2.
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miami was trying to trade outta the 2nd pick? they could've traded outta the 2nd and picked up brooke lopez :)
 
Smills91 said:
Dude whatever. Lawson is high quality and I think Afflalo is a gem as well. Balkman is cheap and just fills the CBA portion of the deal. He's a solid role player, a typical 12th or 13th man. Getting Lawson AND Afflalo would solidify our back court and cheaply! This is a no-brainer. Trying to extract a 1st rounder at the expense of this deal is just dumb.
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acquiring knucklehead beasley and dumping high quality players like lawson is just dumb. miami has to give up the goods if they want that precious capspace. its good to be in a position of strength when negotiating.
 
Smills91 said:
Dude whatever. Lawson is high quality and I think Afflalo is a gem as well. Balkman is cheap and just fills the CBA portion of the deal. He's a solid role player, a typical 12th or 13th man. Getting Lawson AND Afflalo would solidify our back court and cheaply! This is a no-brainer. Trying to extract a 1st rounder at the expense of this deal is just dumb.
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I don't see a need for Lawson, but I'd totally give up a TPE and a second rounder for Afflalo. I'd give more than that, honestly. I can't see Denver wanting to let him go, though. If, and it's a big if, but if there's a second coming of Doug Christie, Afflalo is probably it. I definitely see him as a free agent target next offseason.
 
Bricklayer said:
A year ago at this time when our best SF looked to be Noc and our only legit PF was JT, the Beasely discussions were interesting. But the worm has turned and there comes a time when you have to look at your roster at those spots and say "this is good" and ignore a Michael Beasely. He is the anti of everything we are trying to do here. Small, tweener, knucklehead, I could probably drop 30 on his "defense", and this is down in Riley/Spolestra land where defense is preached constantly. There may be a team out there so shy of talent at the 4/3 that taking all that on is worth the potential upside, but its not us. I would rather have no fewer than 5 seperate players on our roster over him at those spots (Landry, Thompson, Whiteside, Green, Casspi). You don't just randomly add knuckleheads onto your roster who aren't going to play much and become a distraction, nor do you squish maybe the most promising young frontcourt in the game to bring in an outsider without a position who is no younger than the guys you already have. This is not our train.
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This sums it up for me.

The biggest worry in taking a young player like Beasley is what may result from having a proven knucklehead to go along with very young players such as Cousins, Greene, and Evans ( or even Thompson and Whiteside ). There is always that big risk in adding that one sick/rotten apple in a basket of good apples. One good apple ( may it be the "immature" Cousins or Evans ) gets infected and the seemingly bright future of the team will be gone.

Can you imagine what may become of the 19 year old "unpredictable and immature" Cousins if he becomes very close day and night with Beasley?

IMO, there is only one remaining player wearing the Kings uniform who has a questionnable reputation of not giving his best effort in every game or in every season. Let us not add another one even for free.
 
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Ive always been a fan of Beasley and I think he'd be a good SF for this team. If they can trade Garcia or Beno but then again those 2 fit the KINGS well, so... but yes, I'd take him in a heartbeat.
 
Sparky6string said:
I'm just amazed at how much of a bust he has turned out to be. All the scouting and projections of this guy were so far off- I'm just stunned.
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Not really. There was a lot of bagage connected to Beasley prior to the draft. Drug use had been reported along with bad attitude. I wasn't high on him. He looked like a player without a true position. Thats OK if your drafting at 20, but not if your drafting at 2.
 
Beasley was mentioned on ESPN as possibly being traded to Sacramento or the Clippers... hmm, what do you think about that? I could see it, Beasley for Garcia or Udrih... no sure. I like the kid, think he can play and he's young. Does he fit, not to sure about that, he's small and quick anough to play SF with GREENE moving to the SG position and Reke at the PG. I don't think it'll happen but I do think he'd be good for this young team.
 
I don't want him as an undersized PF. He only works as a monster SF, if he can pull that off which has yet to be shown. I like the two SF's we have right now.
 
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