Would Memphis be interested in #5?
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I think if Cousins is gone, then that means Wesley Johnson is available and I think Wesley Johnson would be an IDEAL player for the Grizz.
Something like Thabeet and #12 for #5 could work using the players rights after the draft in July when we have cap space. Or we could throw Nocioni in there to match salaries and take back a bad contract of their's.
That fills a big man need we have and we can take a shot at the best player available at #12 which might be a PF or it might be a SG like Henry, George, Anderson or Bradley.
Telemachus
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So would John Wall, but I don't think Washington is talking about trading down to nab Thabeet. We'd be better off with Johnson.
I'd agree there, but if you got to dump Nocioni and maybe add another pick (#25) then I think we're getting some great value.
hammystyle
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Because Memphis is stupid. This is the team that wanted to trade Thabeet and OJ Mayo for Monta Ellis and the even dumber Warriors turned them down. The owner wanted to draft Thabeet, not the coach or GM and they spent the whole year treating the #2 pick like a red headed stepchild.
#12 and Thabeet for #5? Sold easy. #12 and Thabeet for #5 and #33. Sold easy.
Greene or Casspi for Thabeet? Sure.
#25 and Thabeet for #5?....Ehhhh, sure.
Thabeet for #5?.....No.
I don't see them taking on Nocioni's contract. This is a very cheap franchise.
Big Cuz 15
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i'm not sold on thabust. thabust, 12th and their other 1st and its a deal.
Entity
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I wonder if boston said that when Minn traded Garnett to them? I wonder how many posters on the lakers board said that when Olando wanted to trade shaq?
Gary
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Sorry but Thabeet is no Shaq, or Garnett..
Right now Thabeet is hovering somewhere around........ Jarron/Jason Collins........ Maybe Patrick O'Bryant.
Telemachus
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Sorry, but I wouldn't do any of those trades. I just don't think very highly of Thabeet. Going into the draft last year I wanted no part of Thabeet. I think is best case senario is to be a decent backup center playing 10-15 minutes a game. Those players are a dime a dozen. I don't care how big he is or if he can block shots. He is still a defensive liability (block shots or not), and has almost no offensive skills. Most of the time he seems lost out on the court.
I have to disagree with you here. Players of his size/potential (yes, he's still way too young to give up) are not a dime a dozen. That's why crappy centers with decent size are making upwards of 6 million a year. That's why Tyson Chandler is being mentioned as a pick up.
As much as I haven't liked Thabeet since watching him in the Big East, he'd fill a need, and he's still developing. Big men take longer to develop. Also take into consideration that he hasn't been playing b-ball as long as most, and he did put up pretty decent numbers towards the end of the year. If we can get Thabeet on the cheap, I don't see why we wouldn't do it. If no one were available at #5, I'd seriously consider making a swap for #12, with Thabeet and Nocs as players.
bajaden
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I guess you'd have to define no one.. You know how it goes, no one to you, might be some one to another person. I believe that the Kings will get a player at the 5th spot that will be able to contribute right away. Perhaps even be in the running for rookie of the year. Whereas I'm not convinced that Thabeet can contribute right away, the pot would have to be sweetened for me. Yes, Thabeet only had five years of basketball experience before entering the NBA. And thats certainly noteworthy. But in this years draft Parakhouski has only five years of basketball experience and he's more skilled right now than Thabeet is. Of course he's not 7'3" tall and he's not as athletic as Thabeet. But right now he's a better player. So one has to wonder how much Thabeet's basketball IQ will improve, and how long it will take.
I grant you that even if it takes 3 years and he turns out to be everything you thought he would, then it would be worth it. But there are no guarantee's. Players don't become great just because we want them to. I thought at the time, that the worse thing that could happen to Thabeet was to get picked at the top of the draft. It would put the spotlight on him and the expectations would be high. The last thing a player lacking fundamentals needs entering the NBA.
If I were to make an educated guess. I'd say that at worse, he'll eventually become a good defensive center. There's also no reason he can't become a good rebounder. Right now he's a rebounder like Hawes, a rebounder of convience. In other words he rebounds every ball that bounces his way, but doesn't get in and battle underneath for the hard rebounds. His footwork in the post just flat stinks at times, so he has a lot of work to do. But he's young and has the time. He's certainly worth the gamble at the right price. I'm just not sure what that price is?
Telemachus
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I guess it all depends on where you see Thabeet as a player 3 years from now. The NBA is littered with players around 7' that are sitting at the end of the bench NOT contributing to their team. Thabeet may end up as more than a player getting garbage minutes, but I personally don't see him being much better than that. He has a very long way to go in a lot of areas to become just a productive bench player, much less a starting center. Just my opinion, so take it for what it is worth.
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