will landry be moved by the deadline?

[Glenn]

Are people comfortable going into next season with Cousins, Thompson, and Hassan as centers? Wow! I'm not. I think Dalembert is an integral part of the Kings turn around in dominance in the middle and their improvement in rebounding. I think he's very agile and is at his peak. His little spurt in scoring is interesting in a positive way.

If we don't resign him, we will need to find another center and the logic of that only makes sense if the Maloofs are trying to save money. As they have promised to spend money, I don't see them trying to save money by getting rid of Dalembert. I love watching Cuz and he traumatize the opposition in the paint. It's about time the Kings had dominance in the middle and I'd hate to see it evaporate just when the principals are just getting to know each other.

As to salary, he makes $12 mil. That's what good big guys get. Get used to it.

They already have played the best duo, Pau and Bynum, to a standstill with a rookie and a guy with just a few months and no training camp on the Kings. They will only get better as a duo.

As to Landry, he was a good trade and now quickly and amazingly is of little use to the Kings. Part of that is because of Dalembert. I would let Landry go and use the money saved from that to pay for Dalemebert.

 

[Gary]

I'd take the deal with Yao. At least with Yao we'll gain some fans and it'll be a good marketing to rally around him and Casspi.

Not if he never suits up for us.

 

[JoMama]

Quality centers aren't traded for Spencer Hawes and Nocioni. Dalembert had worn out his welcome in Philly a couple of years before the trade. He was difficult to trade because of his inflated salary. He's never lived up to his early-on potential. In Philly he was known as a player who showed up from time to time but took too many games off. He's not worth a big contract at age 30. If he wants to sign for reasonable money and 3 years, fine. He seems like a great guy and has defensive skills.

 

[Big Cuz 15]

Are people comfortable going into next season with Cousins, Thompson, and Hassan as centers? Wow! I'm not. I think Dalembert is an integral part of the Kings turn around in dominance in the middle and their improvement in rebounding. I think he's very agile and is at his peak. His little spurt in scoring is interesting in a positive way.

If we don't resign him, we will need to find another center and the logic of that only makes sense if the Maloofs are trying to save money. As they have promised to spend money, I don't see them trying to save money by getting rid of Dalembert. I love watching Cuz and he traumatize the opposition in the paint. It's about time the Kings had dominance in the middle and I'd hate to see it evaporate just when the principals are just getting to know each other.

As to salary, he makes $12 mil. That's what good big guys get. Get used to it.

They already have played the best duo, Pau and Bynum, to a standstill with a rookie and a guy with just a few months and no training camp on the Kings. They will only get better as a duo.

As to Landry, he was a good trade and now quickly and amazingly is of little use to the Kings. Part of that is because of Dalembert. I would let Landry go and use the money saved from that to pay for Dalemebert.

i'd be comfortable w/ cousins, daly, JT & whiteside as our bigs next season.

 

[Warhawk]

i'd be comfortable w/ cousins, daly, JT & whiteside as our bigs next season.

Nope. Need at least one more. Whiteside is probably not going to give much in the short term. Should have at least 4 bigs that can play.

 

[bajaden]

dalembert has been a miracle for us defensively hes the dominant interior shotblocking rebounding presence we've all dreamed of for years and he has been on fire the past two months. the main reason we've become a good rebounding team and a big reason we've had a shot to win some games and won some. we need to keep him for 3-4 years we'd be crazy to let him go. carl landry and jt I wouldn't mind trading and next year whiteside can fill in

I'm nit picking here, but while Dalembert is part of the reason were a good rebounding team, he's not the main reason. Dalembert averages 6.5 rebounds in 21 minutes a game, or a rebound every 3.2 minutes he's on the floor. Cousins averages 8.2 rebounds in 27 minutes, or an identical, 1 rebound every 3.2 minutes he's on the floor. When you add in Thompson who averages 5.6 rebounds in 21 minutes, or 1 rebound every 3.7 minutes on the floor, I would say its a combination of all three players being good rebounders as to why were such a good rebounding team.

This wasn't mean't to discredit Dalembert in any way. Just to add a little perspective.

 

[Glenn]

Just for giggles, can anyone give me the name and salary of a center of the quality of Dalemebert who also is a veteran? I am curious as to what is fair by NBA standards. I want to see how much of an outlier I am in this discussion.

 

[Big Cuz 15]

Nope. Need at least one more. Whiteside is probably not going to give much in the short term. Should have at least 4 bigs that can play.

we're not going anywhere this season. might as well throw whiteside out there to gain valuable experience. i don't even know if he's played a minute of real game time this season.

 

[LPKingsFan]

Nope. Need at least one more. Whiteside is probably not going to give much in the short term. Should have at least 4 bigs that can play.

You cna find a veteran 4th big relatively easy off the scrap heap. Even bringing back Jackson wouldn't be the end of the world if Cousins can show he can stay on the court for 30+ min/night.

 

[Glenn]

Just for giggles, can anyone give me the name and salary of a center of the quality of Dalemebert who also is a veteran? I am curious as to what is fair by NBA standards. I want to see how much of an outlier I am in this discussion.

Bynum makes $13,842,332 and he's about 24.
Pau makes about $18 mil but that's a different level player. Cousins should be in this ballpark some day unless we decide it's too much.
Tyson Chandler $12,750,000 - same age
Al Jefferson $13,000,000
Emeka Okafor $11,500,000 about the same age

 

[Warhawk]

we're not going anywhere this season. might as well throw whiteside out there to gain valuable experience. i don't even know if he's played a minute of real game time this season.

I disagree. Some minutes here and there in blowouts (like last night), sure, at least for now. But obviously he's been injured and so far can't make a large enough impact in practice to crack the lineup. If the games are competitive, I want to win.

 

[Big Cuz 15]

I disagree. Some minutes here and there in blowouts (like last night), sure, at least for now. But obviously he's been injured and so far can't make a large enough impact in practice to crack the lineup. If the games are competitive, I want to win.

we agree to disagree then. this is the same as the musselhead year when he wanted wins instead of developing when we were mathematically eliminated from the playoffs. i just found out whiteside is injured so he can't be out there anyway. if he's healthy, i'd rather see some of those minutes go to him instead of landry. we don't even know if landry will be around next year. if he isn't in the plans, why even play him heavy minutes.............

 

[ParniValjak]

Just for giggles, can anyone give me the name and salary of a center of the quality of Dalemebert who also is a veteran? I am curious as to what is fair by NBA standards. I want to see how much of an outlier I am in this discussion.

The closest type of player I can come up with is Marcus Camby who is some 7 years older than Dalembert!

According to hoopshype this is how much Camby is earning:

2010-2011 --> $8,453,250
2011-2012 --> $9,256500

 

[Glenn]

I found a few if you skip back a few notes. I don't think you can say that what Dalembert makes is outrageous. If Bynum makes $1.4 million more than Dalemebert we may be getting more an education of what teams with money to burn do rather than what we can do.

 

[Warhawk]

we agree to disagree then. this is the same as the musselhead year when he wanted wins instead of developing when we were mathematically eliminated from the playoffs. i just found out whiteside is injured so he can't be out there anyway. if he's healthy, i'd rather see some of those minutes go to him instead of landry. we don't even know if landry will be around next year. if he isn't in the plans, why even play him heavy minutes.............

We were on the way down then. We are on the way up now. We need wins, we need the arena deal figured out, and we need FA to come here this offseason. Whiteside seems lost half the time. Until he can learn the plays and not be such a hinderance on the court, he can stay glued to the bench. He is a LONG term project. And that is fine. No need to sacrifice wins in this critical year for the team. And yes, every win is important this year in getting fans back in the seats.

And I don't really consider Landry a "big" - I am talking *thick* guys 6' 11" or taller playing the 4/5 positions. I want an INTIMIDATING frontline. If Whiteside develops into the shotblocking PF that isn't a liability otherwise, GREAT. But I am not counting on it yet. He needs to show it in practice. PW has shown a willingness to play guys who show up in practice.

 

[Gary]

OK So I had this dream last night that we traded Landry for some underachieving guy that had injury problems in the past who was still pretty young.. Was either on Indiana, or Milwaukee. I forget the team But he was a big name out of college from what I remember..

He was the type of player that you weren't thinking about trading for but when his name came up you would say "ahhh why didn't I think abou tthis guy".

 

[KingsCitizen]

Landry to Memphis for Xavier Henry, he will probably resign with them in case Randolph leaves.
or
Landry to Toronto for Barbosa or Bayless
or
Landry to Charlotte for Capt. Jack! He got baggage but he's probably the vocal tough guy we need to glue this young team.

 

[Spike]

we agree to disagree then. this is the same as the musselhead year when he wanted wins instead of developing when we were mathematically eliminated from the playoffs. i just found out whiteside is injured so he can't be out there anyway. if he's healthy, i'd rather see some of those minutes go to him instead of landry. we don't even know if landry will be around next year. if he isn't in the plans, why even play him heavy minutes.............

Putting a kid out there who isn't mentally ready to handle the complexities of the NBA game would do more harm than good. He needs to spend this year sponging from Daly, who has actually wanted to work with him, instead of pumping up his biceps.