Will Assists go down?

[gman23]

I know the answer is pretty obvious too many, Webber who avg around 6 per game will be taken those assists to Philly. Will we continue to be the number 1 team in the NBA in assists, probably not. I think that the team may be looking for a leader but I do not see one on the current roster. Maybe Mobley will step up to be a leader, than again he doesn't really direct traffic all that well. Bibby is too quiet to be a leader, so who?

 

[piksi]

I do not see a reason why assists should go down. We still have enough shooters whio will continue to make shots.

 

[bigbadred00]

I guess Bibby's numbers will go way up as a whole, who is going to keep up with the Assists, Kenny and Corliss don't seem to be that great of passers. I hope Bibby can step up like Nash in Phx. Maybe he'll average around 10 a game now. Mobley, Miller can hopefully pass better too, although it's hard to see them pass any better since joining the Kings.

 

[tyrant]

c-webb is a great passer. our assists may go down a tad, but they won't suffer too much. one thing for sure is that our interior defense may be a little better.

 

[bigbadred00]

Are Kenny Thomas, Skinner or Corliss going to stop KG, Dirk, Amare or TD. Isn't that the only thing that matters. I don't see them doing it. They are undersized, and aren't known as big time defenders. The best defender on Philly in the inside is STILL in philly (daly).

 

[Twix]

I do not see a reason why assists should go down. We still have enough shooters whio will continue to make shots.

I agree...the Kings' strength is passing and moving the ball. If they ain't passing, it's not Kings basketball. Bibby, Pedja, Brad and Cat are good shooters. It should be OK.

 

[Gary]

I think assists will go down slightly, but the offensive/defensive rebounding, and points in the paint should go up.. So the garbage points will increase but assisted baskets will go down slightly.

 

[bigbadred00]

Do you guys realize Webber only played 36 minutes and was pretty effective? Where will all the minutes come from? With Peja back...you have 38 minutes for him, 38 Minutes for Miller, 38 for Bibby, 38 from Mobley....Then you have the other 48+10*x=88 minutes for Songalia, Skinner, Thomas, and Williamson, Evans, Martin, and Ostertag. At best Peja, Bibby, Miller and Mobley drop to 35 mpg. That's still 100 mpg for 6 guys. Songalia around 25 to 30 of those, Thomas for Similar. Skinner getting Ostertag type minutes, Williamson getting Barnes type minutes and Evans getting a little less. We now have a glut.

 

[Gary]

Are Kenny Thomas, Skinner or Corliss going to stop KG, Dirk, Amare or TD. Isn't that the only thing that matters. I don't see them doing it. They are undersized, and aren't known as big time defenders. The best defender on Philly in the inside is STILL in philly (daly).

Webbers mobility turned a once good defender in Webber to an 'ole style defense.. His mobility was not what it once was, and although he has improved from last year he was still under average 1 on 1 defender. So I think that should not suffer much.

 

[bigbadred00]

Gary the Sad part is he still was our best starting paint defender and not our worst defender by any means......is a 6 7 PF going to stop anyone? I've seen Webber be effective when he has to be? You know the "next" level thing.......

 

[Gary]

A 6'9 Songalia has a chance of stopping people, but Defense was not really addressed with this trade. I feel interior play, offensive/defensive rebounding, and bench players were addressed with this trade. Overall defense was not.

 

[Kev.in]

Are Kenny Thomas, Skinner or Corliss going to stop KG, Dirk, Amare or TD. Isn't that the only thing that matters. I don't see them doing it. They are undersized, and aren't known as big time defenders. The best defender on Philly in the inside is STILL in philly (daly).

I can't think of a single player that can stop KG, Dirk, Amare or TD. If there was a magical superstar stopper, I don't think we'd be able to get him by trading Webber.

 

[bigbadred00]

Fine slow him down. Atleast Webber for the most part could cancel them out. Can anyone even come to do this? I guess will have to count on Songalia to cancel them out defensively and Peja, Mobley and bibby to cancel them out offensively.

 

[MrBiggs]

Assists won't go down. Our whole offense is based around assists. Assists may even go up because expect Peja to be making more shot. No I'm kidding, it wont go up and it won't go down too much. Expect Miller's assists per game to go up 1 or 1.5, Peja the same, Cuttino will get more assists than hes been getting with the Kings, and Mike Bibby will be creating more for his teammates.

 

[NanaKing]

Corny,,,,, but.... only time will tell. It's fun, I guess to speculate, but, it isn't going to change what's been done... like it or not.

 

[Bricklayer]

A 6'9 Songalia has a chance of stopping people, but Defense was not really addressed with this trade. I feel interior play, offensive/defensive rebounding, and bench players were addressed with this trade. Overall defense was not.

reebounding was not addressed in this trade -- we got WORSE on the glass, with the exception of Skinner who probably won't get off the bench because he has no jumepr.

Assists will actually drop fairly significantly, but not disastrously bottom of the league style. Thomas can pass a little, but he's no impact passer. The other two? Not at all. Fact of the matter is that the three best passing Kings have all been dealt or left in the last 8 months -- that era is over. Mike and Brad are all that's left of the great passing team, and nobody else is really more than an average passer.

 

[Gary]

reebounding was not addressed in this trade -- we got WORSE on the glass, with the exception of Skinner who probably won't get off the bench because he has no jumepr.

Assists will actually drop fairly significantly, but not disastrously bottom of the league style. Thomas can pass a little, but he's no impact passer. The other two? Not at all. Fact of the matter is that the three best passing Kings have all been dealt or left in the last 8 months -- that era is over. Mike and Brad are all that's left of the great passing team, and nobody else is really more than an average passer.

Just because Webber averaged 10 rebounds does not mean that he is a "good" rebounder. He is an average rebounder on a poor rebounding team. That is why his numbers were slightly inflated. When Webber was not in the game Millers rebounding went up, and he would average over 10 a game, but Miller is not a good rebounder either.. I think we improved on the offensive/garbage glass, MAYBE a little better off the bench (rebounding).

But as a team I think we will now outrebound opponents more often than we used to. Agree?

 

[Bricklayer]

Just because Webber averaged 10 rebounds does not mean that he is a "good" rebounder. He is an average rebounder on a poor rebounding team. That is why his numbers were slightly inflated. When Webber was not in the game Millers rebounding went up, and he would average over 10 a game, but Miller is not a good rebounder either.. I think we improved on the offensive/garbage glass, MAYBE a little better off the bench (rebounding).

But as a team I think we will now outrebound opponents more often than we used to. Agree?

Uh...no actually, unless we play Skinner in place of Darius.

Webber is a better rebounder than Thomas. Barnes is a better rebounder than Corliss. The Sixers have gotten crunched on the boards almost as basly as us this year, and trading away your BEST per48 rebounder for their undersized tweener forwards isn't going to fix us. And Darius, as I documented here perhaps a week ago, is a very weak rebounder for a PF. Hopefully as long as the team does nto mope we'll get a burst out of them here for a few weeks. But you can't sustain with our personnel.

The one guy who could make it happen is Peja if he returns to the boards. But of course as has been mentioned elsewhere that would mean he was tanking this season so not sure whether that would be a good thing or not. In any case, if he suddenly magically starts playing and gets us 6 that will eat into our rebound margin.

 

[gman23]

I think assists will go down slightly, but the offensive/defensive rebounding, and points in the paint should go up.. So the garbage points will increase but assisted baskets will go down slightly.

That i agree with, that the rebounding will definetly improve,, thank goddness

 

[skeletor8]

Just because Webber averaged 10 rebounds does not mean that he is a "good" rebounder. He is an average rebounder on a poor rebounding team. That is why his numbers were slightly inflated. When Webber was not in the game Millers rebounding went up, and he would average over 10 a game, but Miller is not a good rebounder either.. I think we improved on the offensive/garbage glass, MAYBE a little better off the bench (rebounding).

But as a team I think we will now outrebound opponents more often than we used to. Agree?

The man may not be able to get off the floor consistently but he still has the best hands in the business and that counts for a lot on the glass. The Kings made little to no improvement in the rebounding deparment.

And yes, I think the assist numbers will drop pretty significantly. Not only was Webber instrumental in creating opportunites for other people, he was also one of the better finishers on the team.

Unless the Kings detected some sort of imminent injury this has to be the most brain-dead deal since...well...I can't even think of one this bad. Maybe the Herchel Walker trade (though that wasn't considered nearly as one-sided as it turned out to be at the time) or maybe I guess the Vince Carter deal much more recently.

 

[t5chris]

That i agree with, that the rebounding will definetly improve,, thank goddness

Are you serious? Kenny Thomas is 6"7, Corliss 6"7, Skinner 6"9. Webber 6"10. Everyone except for Corliss is UNDERSIZED for their spot. The Kings just got shorter overall and fatter.

No disrespect to Kenny because he's a hustle player, but he ain't no Shawn Marion. Everybody that was traded for is going to get trampled on in the paint.