Who is the most important King in Sac History?

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I pose the question:

Who is the most important King in Sacramento Kings History (Since 1085)?

My Answer: Mitch Richmond

He made us somewhat relevant when we were still compared to the clippers. He was consumate pro while he was here. He was the only player that Michael Jordan ever said "gave him fits" on defense.

His trade to Washington (because the former ownership, prior to the Maloofs would never pay him) made our team what it is today. Without acquiring Chris Webber, for Mitch. Vlade, Peja and J-Will would have been a lottery team, flashy, but still a lottery team.
 
macadocious said:
I pose the question:

Who is the most important King in Sacramento Kings History (Since 1085)?

My Answer: Mitch Richmond

He made us somewhat relevant when we were still compared to the clippers. He was consumate pro while he was here. He was the only player that Michael Jordan ever said "gave him fits" on defense.

His trade to Washington (because the former ownership, prior to the Maloofs would never pay him) made our team what it is today. Without acquiring Chris Webber, for Mitch. Vlade, Peja and J-Will would have been a lottery team, flashy, but still a lottery team.
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First, you might want to change that date. ;)

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This is such a subjective question that there's really no definitive answer, IMHO.

I could justify at least four players right off the top of my head. It depends on your definition of "most important". I do think Mitch Richmond is one of them. I also think Vlade Divac, the FIRST free agent to voluntarily agree to come to the hellhole of the NBA, has to be considered. And, believe it or not, I think you have to consider the impact having Jason Williams had on the team AND the interest in them while he was here in all his glory. And, finally, I don't think you can bring up "most important" without looking at everything Chris Webber brought to this franchise.

In all reality, I think this is the type of question best answered at some point in the future, when history has had a chance to determine the long-term impact each of those players had on our Kings.
 
I would vote for Vlade Divac because of his positive influence on the game, the Sacramento Kings, and basketball fans around the world.
 
Ah, but Geoff Petrie isn't a King. He is the General Manager FOR the Kings.

;)
 
VF21 said:
Ah, but Geoff Petrie isn't a King. He is the General Manager FOR the Kings.

;)
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Wasn't Chris Webber a player FOR the Kings as well? ;) :D

You can say Geoff Petrie beucause the question doesn't specify it has to be a basketball player.
 
I'd say Mitch Richmond as well. He was one of the only guys who even kept Sacramento on the radar as an NBA team for years.
 
Bballkingsrock said:
Wasn't Chris Webber a player FOR the Kings as well? ;) :D

You can say Geoff Petrie beucause the question doesn't specify it has to be a basketball player.
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It's semantics.

IMHO, the players who actually don the uniforms and step on the court ARE the Sacramento Kings. The others, such as Rick Adelman (who is the coach of the Sacramento Kings), Jerry Reynolds (who is an announcer for the Sacramento Kings), Geoff Petrie (who is the Vice President of Basketball Operations for Maloof Sports AND General Manager of the Sacramento Kings) are not the Sacramento Kings.
 
I'd have to go with Vlade since he came voluntarily and gave the Kings worldwide recognition. A close second is Webber who's national rep and street cred made us prime time broadcastable and nationally legitimate.
 
Rowdyone said:
A close second is Webber who's national rep and street cred made us prime time broadcastable and nationally legitimate.
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i'm pretty sure it was his skill that made us nationally legitimate. "street cred" dont mean much unless its in the streets. networks love winners. webb and vlade helped make the kings winners with their talents and their unselfish brand of basketball.
 
Webber. No doubt at all.

Richmond- yeah, the Kings were "on the radar." They showed up in the standings. The Hawks are also "on the radar." He was a good player here. Antoine Walker played well in Atlanta. See where I'm going with this? And we used him to aquire Chris, so he's more important than Chris? What? So Chris Mihm is more important to Miami than Shaq? Sorry, don't buy it. He might have been our only decent player during an age when we absolutely sucked, but that doesn't make him our most important player. He brought no respect to us. Maybe he brought pity to himself and just made our franchise look worse for not building around him.

Divac- yeah, he came here first. He made us splash when he chose to sign in Sac. Now imagine that Chris never came here. Vlade takes a gamble to sign with the Kings, and then the Kings continue to suck and Vlade looks like a fool for signing in Sac and NO ONE wants to sign here now. It could just have easily backfired were it not for the success of the Kings, which IMO was dependent on Webber entirely.

The Kings would still have no respect in this league if it weren't for Chris. We would be the Grizzlies, a borderline team that never does anything of note. Maybe make the playoffs and be a pushover for the big boys. And then collapse again when no one wanted to come here.

Divac is a sentimental choice, but he rode the coattails of success. He was critical to that success, yes, but CWebb was by far more important to us winning games. Without Chris, I can't imagine Vlade being any more of a sentimental fan favorite than say, Corliss. Nice player, everyone likes him, but without the glory, who honestly cares?

The only way any other player can be mentioned is because of Chris. Without Chris the Kings are nothing.
 
kingkung said:
Louis XIV wasn't bad... he did spend way too much money though...
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lmao...what????? :D

*cant stop laughing*

i really hope that is you being funny, otherwise, im gonna feel bad for laughing so hard....lol....lol

a) very very nice. i duno if the thread topic changed to Sac History after this comment or it already was that, but either way, very very nice. *applause*

b)wow, do you think or just type?

plz be A! :D
 
BobbyJ_for3! said:
lmao...what????? :D

*cant stop laughing*

i really hope that is you being funny, otherwise, im gonna feel bad for laughing so hard....lol....lol

a) very very nice. i duno if the thread topic changed to Sac History after this comment or it already was that, but either way, very very nice. *applause*

b)wow, do you think or just type?

plz be A! :D
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It was a rather old joke...and was a repeat of at least three or four comments the last time we had a "who's your favorite King" thread.
 
the history of this organization is weak. we didn't get mentally tough and start blowing out teams till we got webber and mike. if it were any other team fans could easily say jordan for the bulls, or barkely/nash/staudemire for the suns, miller for the pacers, ewing for the knicks, kareem/shaq/kobe/magic for the lakers, etc.


no one in kings history match up with these names unless it's webber. and he got hurt witch caused his status to hit rock bottom.
 
captain bill said:
Webber. No doubt at all.
The only way any other player can be mentioned is because of Chris. Without Chris the Kings are nothing.
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I agree. Give Mitch and Vlade and even J-Will some credit, absolutely, deffinently, and without a doubt.

But give Webber this title.

obviosly there is no way to PROVE it, as has been said.

I'm gonna laugh when at some point we trade several of the guys we got for Webber for a young guy or a draft pick and that player ends up revitalizing the franchise and all that great stuff.

100% Webber.
 
tyrant said:
the history of this organization is weak. we didn't get mentally tough and start blowing out teams till we got webber and mike. if it were any other team fans could easily say jordan for the bulls, or barkely/nash/staudemire for the suns, miller for the pacers, ewing for the knicks, kareem/shaq/kobe/magic for the lakers, etc.


no one in kings history match up with these names unless it's webber. and he got hurt witch caused his status to hit rock bottom.
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Excuse my language, but bullbleep.

Webber's getting hurt in no way diminished his importance to the Kings.
 
Most important people? Maloofs and petrie.

Most important player? Webb, though vlade and mike are right there. Gotta admire vlade for his choice to come to the NBA's hellhole... And can't forget about that defense on shaq....
Mike for his clutch shots that nearly put us over the top... The kid with the sweet studder step that still can't be stopped...

**honerable mention** j-will. Straight put us on the map, highest selling jersey, sweet passes, and the run and gun that had us shaking our heads, but loving it at the same time.
 
tyrant said:
cost us a ring or two
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Nope.

If anything, his injury proved just how important he was to the Kings since the rest of the team couldn't do it without him.
 
captain bill said:
Webber. No doubt at all.

Richmond- yeah, the Kings were "on the radar." They showed up in the standings. The Hawks are also "on the radar." He was a good player here. Antoine Walker played well in Atlanta. See where I'm going with this? And we used him to aquire Chris, so he's more important than Chris? What? So Chris Mihm is more important to Miami than Shaq? Sorry, don't buy it. He might have been our only decent player during an age when we absolutely sucked, but that doesn't make him our most important player. He brought no respect to us. Maybe he brought pity to himself and just made our franchise look worse for not building around him.

Divac- yeah, he came here first. He made us splash when he chose to sign in Sac. Now imagine that Chris never came here. Vlade takes a gamble to sign with the Kings, and then the Kings continue to suck and Vlade looks like a fool for signing in Sac and NO ONE wants to sign here now. It could just have easily backfired were it not for the success of the Kings, which IMO was dependent on Webber entirely.

The Kings would still have no respect in this league if it weren't for Chris. We would be the Grizzlies, a borderline team that never does anything of note. Maybe make the playoffs and be a pushover for the big boys. And then collapse again when no one wanted to come here.

Divac is a sentimental choice, but he rode the coattails of success. He was critical to that success, yes, but CWebb was by far more important to us winning games. Without Chris, I can't imagine Vlade being any more of a sentimental fan favorite than say, Corliss. Nice player, everyone likes him, but without the glory, who honestly cares?

The only way any other player can be mentioned is because of Chris. Without Chris the Kings are nothing.
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I defnitely disagree. You take away any of these guys, Divac from Webber and vice versa and they would not have been as important individually. Fact is, they both complemented each other and there is no way the Sacramento Kings would have been themselves with Webber but without Vlade, and vice versa.
 
VF21 said:
It was a rather old joke...and was a repeat of at least three or four comments the last time we had a "who's your favorite King" thread.
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Except this time the word SAC is phrased in the question ....

Ratz ... and I was gonna say Nat KING Cole this time.

Don't really know if I can truly answer this .... so many different King's have contributed to this organization in many different ways since coming to Sac in '85. To place the label MOST IMPORTANT on ONE KING, IMO ... would be disrespectful to those that played there hearts out here.

A winning or losing record should not have any impact on importance to this organization.

I look back to the years of Theus, Thompson and Thorpe ...
 
I realized after answering this question .... I'm a SENTIMENTALIST (if that's a word).

There's nothing wrong with picking whomever or whoever you choose, but whoever that individual is, it gives the rest of us ... somewhat of an indication of what era/King you favor or impacted you the most.

There is no wrong answer ....

I go back to the roots and remember The Old Gang in the Baby Blues !!!!
 
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