Who does Ron guard in Indiana?

Who does Ron guard in Indiana?

  • Peja

    Votes: 43 35.0%
  • Stephen Jackson

    Votes: 26 21.1%
  • Both at different times

    Votes: 54 43.9%

  • Total voters
    123
Bricklayer said:
I would think Granger whenever possible. Strength on strength and the two apparently had some great practice wars.
Yeah Brick I remember there was word that they had some encounters during preseason, so it should be fun watching them go at it in a real game.
 
BawLa said:
Sorry I miscalculated...96 min for 2 positions and 4 players. Ron gets 42 avg. right off the bat, hands down. Bonzi gets 30. If Bonzi gets more than 30 then Kevin and Cisco suffer. And I think that Kevin is a better scorer than Bonzi, so I would think he's gonna get some good minutes. And Cisco is too much of an energy player to not give him some minutes.

I would think that Rick would not want Cisco to run the point in the playoffs. Too much of a liability. But bringing it up the court and dumping it to Ron could get him 6 more minutes a game putting him up to 15 which seems about right.

Didn't say during the playoffs for Garcia at PG, but when he comes back like next week. Wouldn't be surprised if he was used at PG sometimes during the POs though.
 
Wuster said:
I voted Jackson. Peja is very much a known quantity by the Kings. Put a decent defender on him, who knows his game, and Kings can limit him. But it doesn't have to be Artest.

This is pretty much how I feel as well. Why waste Ron on covering him, we should be able to capitalize from knowing Peja's game better than anyone.
 
SacKings4Life21 said:
ok ok ok ok... Mike bibby could shut down peja... Peja shuts himself down. If he isnt open... hes most likly going to miss... Jackson is our concern. but i wanna see ron rip pejas groin into 2 peices... so i want ron on him. Just to say "ahahhahahaa this my team now B****"
OUCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Also i say guard Stepen Jackson because Martin can shut down Peja
 
I would like to see Martin pull a Tranton Hassell against Peja... he has a big quickness edge on offense as well. Artest would completely shut down their other offensive weapon in Jackson... Bonzi should be able to guard Peja at least as well as Kevin. But I'm sure the coaching staff is aware enough to make a switch if Peja heats up.
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Dont get me wrong by saying this, i respect what peja brings to the table, and this will probably come back to bite me later...but i dont see peja as a big enough threat to question if ron should guard him. Peja dosent have the mental stability to expect to blow up on us. When it comes down to it, i think he is going to crack, and not do much damage to us at all. Throw Artest on Jackson, then anyone thats quick on Peja, thats it. Peja has 0 inside game, guard him on the perimeter and hes cooked. Peja will get his 15, but I dont believe he is going to affect the game nearly as many think. Sure its a "big" game for Peja and Artest, but i dont think Peja has the chops to blow up on us, i think him worrying about that is going to make him play poorly. Peja is not a Ron type character where his intensity is going to go up 100000 fold...I havent even used the two words "Peja" and "Intensity" in the same sentence...ever.

The one thing peja is good at though is moving without the ball. If our help defense is even par and someone is always in his face, there should be no problems at all.

I am more worried about Jeff Foster blowing up on us...i mean like 20 boards 20 pts 4 blocks. Miller and Foster is the matchup i would be more worried about, then who is on Peja. Foster has everything Miller dosent..an intense inside game..Foster will go to the ground everytime to get a board.
 
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Kings113 said:
Didn't say during the playoffs for Garcia at PG, but when he comes back like next week. Wouldn't be surprised if he was used at PG sometimes during the POs though.

Yeah I hear ya. I'm thinking that Rick is trying to get to a set playoff breakdown as soon as possible. I doubt he will put Garcia in a position to run the offense during the playoffs, but bringing it up court and giving it to Ron is different than running the O. And I wouldn't be surprised either if he tried to run it once or twice...they have practiced it a bunch lately. It could catch our opponents off guard.

If you could guarantee me no turnovers, I would let Cisco do whatever he wanted with the ball. He seems to have so much confidence.
 
JJ22L said:
I am more worried about Jeff Foster blowing up on us...i mean like 20 boards 20 pts 4 blocks. Miller and Foster is the matchup i would be more worried about, then who is on Peja. Foster has everything Miller dosent..an intense inside game..Foster will go to the ground everytime to get a board.

I am a little worried too, but I think some sort of defensive sweat dripped off Diop and Dampier, landed on Brad, and fused with his body giving him the ability to block shots and get rebounds.

Unfortunately for us, he still can't jump.
 
I predict Peja will have a few 7 point runs in quarters 1-3 and 2 points in the 4th. Ron does better vs players that put the ball on the floor, but he'll probably get sicced on Peja during one of those streaks. Garcia seems like a likely matchup for Peja: long, energetic, and his lack of athleticism won't hurt him as much versus a guy that doesn't drive the ball.
 
Insomniacal Fan said:
I predict Peja will have a few 7 point runs in quarters 1-3 and 2 points in the 4th. Ron does better vs players that put the ball on the floor, but he'll probably get sicced on Peja during one of those streaks. Garcia seems like a likely matchup for Peja: long, energetic, and his lack of athleticism won't hurt him as much versus a guy that doesn't drive the ball.

I think Peja will have one run if he is on. But Ron, or likely someone else is gonna give him hell.

Garcia does not lack athleticism. He only lacks experience.
 
BawLa said:
I think Peja will have one run if he is on. But Ron, or likely someone else is gonna give him hell.

Garcia does not lack athleticism. He only lacks experience.

What Garcia lacks is lateral movement. Why he'll never be a stopper. But Peja doesn't beat you with quickness anyway. Think Garcia could be a good match -- need somebody smaller and quicker than Peja, and who is willing to fight through and over screens. Those are the guys that always give Peja fits. He'd much rather face a bigger, stronger, but slower defender.
 
Ron will guard Granger. Or he had better guard Granger because Danny is the only one who can really hurt the Kings.

It really won't matter who Ron guards in this game because there is nobody on the Pacers team who can stop him (Ron) on either end.

I think the Kings win by 25+ points and Ron gets 30+. The Pacers are not very good right now and won't be for quite awhile. They (imho) are an extremely selfish team with no concept of good team play. The only guy who really understands, besides Foster, Peja and Granger, is now buried deep on the bench.

But since I'm a Pacers' fan I will watch anyway.

PS: I'm also a Ron Artest fan and by proxy a Kings fan. :)
 
i have a feeling both ron and peja will have subpar games....

and i hope the pacers win....

but i have my doubts that they will....the kings are simply playing at a different level right now....the kings are beating some of the better teams in the league, while the pacers are losing to some of the worst...knicks, raptors, celtics, hawks, rockets....its not a pretty sight....makes it that much more difficult, in one respect, to watch ron do what hes capable of....

oh well....indianas loss has definitely been sacramentos gain...at least it couldnt have happened to a more deserving fanbase....
 
anyone dares to predict what Pedja said about the game on Friday ?
































































(On Friday’s game against Sacramento) "It’s just another game. It is going to be weird though. I’m just going to approach it like any other game and play my best.”

sounds about right - doesn't it ?
 
I think its funny how some of you guys are saying junk like "Kevin Martin can shut down Peja" and "Peja can be shut down by anyone quicker than him." Some of you are the same cats who, just a few years ago, were saying "Nobody can guard Peja" or "Peja is unstoppable."

With Peja, if he can see the basket, he can make the shot. I'm not underestimating him simply because the coaching staff "knows his game." Peja is a different player than he was a few months ago.

If I were a coach I would play Artest on Peja for the first half. Simply having your hand in his face isn't enough to cause Peja any problems. The guy is a legit 6'10". He's not just listed at that height like some players, he really is that height. If you're even going to attempt to shut down Peja, you have to play him tough. It's not enough to stay in front of him. You have to keep going for the ball, slapping wrists, and lightly foul him every once in awhile. Martin and Garcia don't have that skillset yet.

After Artest has frustrated Peja into having an off-night, go ahead and put Bonzi, Garcia, or Martin on him to finish the job.

From there Artest is free to guard whichever guy has the hot hand from pg to pf.
 
MrBiggs said:
With Peja, if he can see the basket, he can make the shot. I'm not underestimating him simply because the coaching staff "knows his game." Peja is a different player than he was a few months ago.

Agreed. I would also expect Peja th have a fairly decent defensive game tomorrow. He knows alot of our plays and can probably be one step ahead on the defence.
 
Hoopsforlife said:
Ron will guard Granger. Or he had better guard Granger because Danny is the only one who can really hurt the Kings.

It really won't matter who Ron guards in this game because there is nobody on the Pacers team who can stop him (Ron) on either end.

I think the Kings win by 25+ points and Ron gets 30+. The Pacers are not very good right now and won't be for quite awhile. They (imho) are an extremely selfish team with no concept of good team play. The only guy who really understands, besides Foster, Peja and Granger, is now buried deep on the bench.

But since I'm a Pacers' fan I will watch anyway.

PS: I'm also a Ron Artest fan and by proxy a Kings fan. :)
Are you talking about Jasikevicius? I agree, and I think one problem is Stephen Jackson gets too trigger happy with the ball, no matter how well he's shooting it, defender in his face, etc. Only when JO gets back healthy will the Pacers be considered a serious team team. If Sac plays like it has lately, Indy's not going to have a chance.
 
piksi said:
anyone dares to predict what Pedja said about the game on Friday ?

(On Friday’s game against Sacramento) "It’s just another game. It is going to be weird though. I’m just going to approach it like any other game and play my best.”

sounds about right - doesn't it ?

Unfortunately, it does... I have a couple of problems with that statement but they're the same problems I had when Peja was still wearing the Kings uniform and saying stuff like that.

It's not important any longer, however. I wish Peja all the luck in the world. (As long as it's not on Friday.)

GO KINGS!!!!!
 
Glad to have you Ron Artest fans coming over to watching the Kings and cheering for your favorite player. I hope the Kings can keep Artest and sign him to a nice big contract. Otherwise I'm getting the NBA package to watch his new team. I'll still be a Kings fan, but also a Ron Artest fan. Man is this guys awesome. All about winning and is very unselfish in his play. I'd much rather lose Bibby and Miller than have Artest walk away from the Kings.

Back on topic. Ron is our Defensive genius and he will play who can hurt us the most. Bonzi isn't that bad either and both players use their bodies to subdue their opponents.
 
Troy - The Artest fans posting here are from a great Pacers site, PacersDigest. Lots of interesting stuff over there...
 
Troy said:
Man is this guys awesome. All about winning and is very unselfish in his play.

One thing I was scared of when the Ronnie rumors started was of him being a ball-hog. Star players for this Kings offense just can't be selfish. The reason why I thought this was because Ron was saying stuff about J.O. being considered for MVP honors a couple of seasons ago. He was saying that he should be the one considered an MVP.

I just didn't like that attitude even though I knew that his defense was exactly what the Kings needed.

But after his time in Sac, I came to the realization that he just had problems with other players dominating the ball (J.O.) and he's more comfortable in a motion offense.
 
If I were Rick Adelman I would start Bonzi for this game. He is good enough of a defender to stay on Stephen Jackson, and Ron would guard Peja.
 
PejaHoops16 said:
If I were Rick Adelman I would start Bonzi for this game. He is good enough of a defender to stay on Stephen Jackson, and Ron would guard Peja.

Why mess with what's working though? Surely not just for Stephen Jackson.
 
Bonzi will get 25-30 minutes tonight. Plus I think Rick is still easing him back into it, starting or not, and that actually doesn't matter to Bonzi, as he said.
 
What's gone unsaid here is that it doesn't seem to matter who guards who for us because, for the first time I can remember, we have multi-dimensional players who can switch assignments at any given time and we probably won't suffer for it...we will create, not react to mismatches both offensively and defensively. I think, from what I've seen since the trade, that Indy does a better job of setting screens for Peja but against us I don't see that as creating a mismatch as long as we play tough perimeter D and switch properly. I worry more about Foster on Miller, he usually outdoes Brad.
 
DoughDole said:
Are you talking about Jasikevicius? I agree, and I think one problem is Stephen Jackson gets too trigger happy with the ball, no matter how well he's shooting it, defender in his face, etc. Only when JO gets back healthy will the Pacers be considered a serious team team. If Sac plays like it has lately, Indy's not going to have a chance.

Yes
 
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