Whatever...
The players is Detroit are pretty happy with Webber. Your opinion, therefore, would have to appear at least to be influenced by your ongoing hatred of everything about Webber. What I choose to believe is that Chris Webber is still finding a way to be productive and he's making the Pistons better with a combination of veteran savvy, the best passing hands by a big man in the game today and the heart of a warrior.
You'll find reasons to shoot it down but, quite frankly, that says a lot more about you than it does about Webber.
In fact, I am pretty sure that I have given more props to Webber than you, Slim and Bricklayer have together given to Pedja. But oh well, that's your problem.
I must be missing something.the Pistons needed a "savior?" Someone else want to fill me in?
BTW, if we hold on to win this game, we'll be undefeated (9-0) when Webber scores 10+ points.
I could care less about Webber's statline, BTW. His passing is making everyone else pass the ball more. His presence alone makes us better.
And that's the whole thing in a nutshell, isn't it? To you it's still about Webber v. Peja.
Earth to sloter: Most of us moved on a long time ago. If you still think there's a problem, I suggest you look in the mirror.
Peace...
It was over when he collapsed in Dallas.
No, it was over when he was chucking all those jumpshots and yapping that it was his team while smoking pot (with his warrior attitude, I assume) and officially over when Vlade left the team and the whole team chemistry fell apart.
I must be missing something.the Pistons needed a "savior?" Someone else want to fill me in?
BTW, if we hold on to win this game, we'll be undefeated (9-0) when Webber scores 10+ points.
I could care less about Webber's statline, BTW. His passing is making everyone else pass the ball more. His presence alone makes us better.
No, it was over when he was chucking all those jumpshots and yapping that it was his team while smoking pot (with his warrior attitude, I assume) and officially over when Vlade left the team and the whole team chemistry fell apart.
I envy you. I miss his attitude, I miss his enthusiasm, and I miss his warrior spirit. And I really miss the ability he has of making those around him better...
We had a shot. It was over when he collapsed in Dallas. I hope he can finally get the jewelry and if it can't be here I sincerely hope it can be in Detroit.
You're actually comparing my distaste for Stojakovic to your distaste for Webber? That's laughable.What are you trying to say ? All that I was saying was that Chauncey Billups is more important to them than Webber. How is that hatred of any sort ? And I'm really sick of any sort of comment that I throw out being attributed to me as "hating Webber". I've given props to him many times, but you only focus on me criticizing him when unrealistic and biased fans here praise him as some sort of deity.
In fact, I am pretty sure that I have given more props to Webber than you, Slim and Bricklayer have together given to Pedja. But oh well, that's your problem.
You're actually comparing my distaste for Stojakovic to your distaste for Webber? That's laughable.
I've never liked Stojakovic, and make no apologies for it. I never felt that he was any better than the second-best player talent-wise or the third-best player impact-wise player at any point during his tenure with the Kings. In fact, for most of his tenure here, I felt like he was the third-best player talent-wise (behind Webber and Divac from 99-01, behind Webber and Bibby from 01-05) and fourth-best player impact-wise (behind Webber, Divac, Bibby, Christie). I believe (then and now) that his entire quote-unquote "MVP" season was counterfeit, and direct result of Vlade Divac's hard work. I still belive that he was a factor in Webber being traded, and I was glad when management finally came to their senses and got rid of him.
But, that's where the comparison ends.
Because, unlike you, I never publically called Stojakovic a cancer, or said that he was killing the team. Unlike you, I didn't dance in the street when Stojakovic got traded, or proclaim Petrie a god for dumping his ***. And, unlike you, I don't feel my need to stick my head in the (admittedly fewer) threads started about Stojakovic to remind everybody how much I don't like Stojakovic, or ask people why they're still obsessed with talking about him. You're up in Webber threads the way that Ryle is up in Adelman threads; it's like you take offense that people still miss this guy. You blatantly and intentionally mischaracterize any posts praising Webber's performance as "deifying" him, and then take up your cross and claim persecution, as if people here are baiting you, instead of the other way around.
My disdain for Stojakovic isn't anywhere near your disdain for Webber. Never has been, and likely never will be. At worst, I've called Stojakovic overrated and soft... you've practically demonized Webber here in the past; you've commented on Webber with the sort of vitriol and disgust that most people reserve for unliked politicians.
It was a thing of beauty.
::wipes tear::
Vlade used to do it all the time, I think he partly picked it up from him.
Semi-OT: That Mayce Webber they interviewed, did they say it was his dad? Because that doesn't look like his father
Edit: Ok, they are interviewing his father right now.
There was an interesting piece of information, however. Apparently Webber's contract with the Pistons is short and he's a free agent this summer. Phil Jackson said he would have brought in Chris except he didn't want to have to teach him the triangle mid-season. He'd rather have him the whole year. Chris apparently intimated that you never know what the future will bring. Could he be a Laker next year? Lord, I hope not!
You're up in Webber threads the way that Ryle is up in Adelman threads.
He's not involving you. He's using you as an example. Can you really deny that you jump into the middle of any Adelman thread with both feet?
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On behalf of everyone who has had to try and explain the difference between criticism of Peja and hatred of Webber, thank you...
On behalf of everyone who has had to try and explain the difference between criticism of Peja and hatred of Webber, thank you...
I don't think we'll be seeing Webb in a Laker uniform. He made it pretty clear he wanted to close out his career in Detroit. I think his reception there has pretty much made that a done deal. He may be a free agent come summer but I suspect he'll sign another contract with the Pistons. Actually being an integral part of a team like that has a lot of value to someone like Webb IMHO.
Thought I'd post the above article because I didn't see it anywhere else & it really made me smile. Something about Kobe Bryant talking about how great Webb is just made my day!!![]()
Yea I was pleasantly surprised to read that. Even Kobe Bryant can see what is so plainly obvious in that Webb makes people better. It still amazes me that there ae so manyKings fans, who reaped the benefits of that ability....who are still in denial about what Webb brought and still brings to the table.
I think the part you are missing is not the "what did he bring to the table", it's the "what were the chances of him being able to play on the knee", as I assume you are discussing his trade.
Hindsight is always 20-20. At the time, it was a smart gamble. In retrospect, maybe not so much. But looking back on a move after a couple years is a luxury GM's don't have the advantage of at the time of the trade....
I think this offseason is the due date where this trade can be properly assessed. If we are still sitting on junk, I mean "flexible pieces", at the time where Webb's old contract actually would have become an assett then everyone winds up looking like a fool. Unfortunately I don't see us moving KT anytime soon and I doubt the cap space Corliss and Pot free up will amount to much.I think the part you are missing is not the "what did he bring to the table", it's the "what were the chances of him being able to play on the knee", as I assume you are discussing his trade.
Hindsight is always 20-20. At the time, it was a smart gamble. In retrospect, maybe not so much. But looking back on a move after a couple years is a luxury GM's don't have the advantage of at the time of the trade....
No, no....although I disagreed with the trade vehemently, I am over the fact that it happened. What I was referring to were posters on boards like these who seemed and still seem unwilling to give Webber due credit no matter how well he does. Labels like cancer and selfish were thrown around, although most people in the NBA thought and still think of Webber as a player who makes people better. Granted, anyone has the right to think of Webber in any way they like, but I just don't see an honest justification.