We have/had interest in Wilcox maybe?

Bricklayer

Don't Make Me Use The Bat
#1
But looks like that may have been futile as well -- I'll bold + red the brief comment on us:


All over but the signing of Wilcox, says source

By Percy Allen
Seattle Times staff reporter


Chris Wilcox averaged 14.1 points and 8.2 rebounds in 29 games with the Sonics last season.

With trade proposals from at least three teams still on the table, the Sonics may be nearing an end to negotiations with Chris Wilcox on a three-year, $24 million proposal from his Washington, D.C.-based agent Jeff Fried.

According to a team source, an agreement is imminent, with at least one of the team's new owners, G. Edward Evans, planning to return to Seattle this week, possibly for the announcement.

However, Fried and Sonics general manager Rick Sund said on Saturday that speculation that the deal is completed is premature.

"Nothing has been finalized," Fried said. "We want to conclude [contract talks] as soon as possible so Chris can get with a team and begin preparing for the season."

Sund declined to discuss the negotiations in detail, but said: "We've had dialogue this week, but nothing has really changed and no agreement has been reached."

He would not comment on the possibility of agreeing to a sign-and-trade deal.

According to an NBA source, Phoenix, Golden State and Sacramento have contacted Seattle to talk about trade scenarios involving Wilcox, a 23-year-old power forward, who averaged 14.1 points and 8.2 rebounds in 29 games with the Sonics last season.

Although Sund has told teams he'd consider parting with Wilcox only if Seattle receives an All-Star forward in return, the trade rumors continue to linger because the Sonics have been unable to reach an agreement with the four-year veteran after four weeks of negotiations.

Fried cancelled plans to meet with Sund last week and was unsure when they would have face-to-face dialogue again. He made one trip to Seattle and talked with Sund on July 3 when discussions fell apart after his five-year, $62 million offer resulted in a five-year, $40 million counterproposal from the Sonics.

At that time, it seemed certain that Wilcox would sign a one-year tender worth $3.6 million. However, the two sides appeared to have broken the impasse when they focused on a three-year deal.

All that remains is determining the value of the contract. In a short-term contract, the Sonics believe Wilcox is worth about $7 million per year, while Fried favors an $8 million deal.

"If Chris doesn't turn out to be a star player, they cut their risk and move on," Fried said. "But if Chris is a superstar like we believe he will be, then he'll be 26 and in position to get an enhanced contract."

Wilcox is working out in Houston and is prepared to immediately fly to Seattle, Fried said.
 
#2
We probably won't get Wilcox but it'd be nice. If Musselman can work on him and teach him some more fundamentals at least that would give us some more athleticism/defense/rebounding. I actually think Wilcox could have a breakout year but I doubt we get him anyway.
 
#3
Chris Wilcox had a break-out performance once he was traded to Seattle BUT it can also be due to having a contract year but i think it's Wilcox's decision to be a star he has all the potential.
 
#4
I remember reading somewhere that Petrie contacts every available free agent to gauge the marketplace. I remember this happened when Mitch Richmond was a FA before he went to the Lakers and it was splashed all over the place that the Kings were interested in Mitch when they really weren't.
 

bajaden

Hall of Famer
#5
Read the same article. Would love to have Wilcox, but would be shocked if it happened. We'd somehow have to move either KT or Reef in the deal.
 
#6
Wilcox would/should start if he came here. He's better than Shareef and KT and he would help our defense and rebounding. He's also young and needs playing time to get better. He has brilliant potential but I doubt he'll come here. Would love to have him too, though.
 

SLAB

Hall of Famer
#9
I'd be phyched if we could get Wilcox.

But what kind of package would Seatle want from us?

SAR or Thomas, Garcia, and Potopenko?

Throw in a pick?

It's definatly something I would love to see happen.
 
#10
He's interesting, think he can still improve... not sure we get him though. I honestly haven't seen a lot of him, just bits and pieces, handful of significant stuff. Know he's athletic and a good rebounder, not sure about his defense though. Seems like he could/should be a nice shotblocker.
 
#12
Why so we could have another undersized power forward??? No thanks.
While Reggie Evans is a undersized PF, he is a real scrappy guy. Some who we might want off the bench since we are losing Bonzi. We do have Amundson and he is said to be very scrappy and aggresive. Could we get Evans for the LLE? I know we need a 4/5 big guy, but Evans could make up a little for what we are losing in Bonzi's tenaciouness. Can Evans play 3 & 4?
 
#14
There is a proposal on the RealGM board, from the Seattle paper, having SAR and Price going for Wilcox.



I do NOT know if this is one of those made-up proposals by the paper, or they are reporting a rumored deal.


I have NO link so take it as it is.

At any rate, though, the following is a trade proposal involving the Kings and Wilcox:

From Phoenix*
2009 Second-Round Draft Pick (Via Golden State)

From Sacramento
PF Shareef Abdur-Rahim ($5,400,000)
PG Ronnie Price ($664,209)

From Seattle
PF Chris Wilcox (BYC: $3,625,000)
PF Noel Felix ($664,209)

To Phoenix
PF Noel Felix ($664,209)
PG Ronnie Price ($664,209)

To Sacramento
PF Chris Wilcox ($7,250,000)

To Seattle
PF Shareef Abdur-Rahim ($5,400,000)
2009 Second-Round Draft Pick (Via Golden State Through Phoenix)

*The Phoenix Suns have a $1,803,600 trade exception.


I would be all over this.


Still stuck with K9's contract tho.
 

VF21

Super Moderator Emeritus
SME
#17
There is a proposal on the RealGM board, from the Seattle paper, having SAR and Price going for Wilcox.

I do NOT know if this is one of those made-up proposals by the paper, or they are reporting a rumored deal.

I have NO link so take it as it is.

At any rate, though, the following is a trade proposal involving the Kings and Wilcox:

From Phoenix*
2009 Second-Round Draft Pick (Via Golden State)

From Sacramento
PF Shareef Abdur-Rahim ($5,400,000)
PG Ronnie Price ($664,209)

From Seattle
PF Chris Wilcox (BYC: $3,625,000)
PF Noel Felix ($664,209)

To Phoenix
PF Noel Felix ($664,209)
PG Ronnie Price ($664,209)

To Sacramento
PF Chris Wilcox ($7,250,000)

To Seattle
PF Shareef Abdur-Rahim ($5,400,000)
2009 Second-Round Draft Pick (Via Golden State Through Phoenix)

*The Phoenix Suns have a $1,803,600 trade exception.

I would be all over this.

Still stuck with K9's contract tho.
It looks as though this is one person's idea about what might occur. The ONLY article quoted is the one Bricklayer posted to start this thread. It's from the Seattle Times. You might want to bookmark this page to check for future updates:

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/sports/
 
#18
I think that seattle would want SAR, they did ask for an allstar forward and Sar is an past all star. They drafted Sene who could develop into a great rebounder and defender which could cover sar def incapblilties. And getting sar would go fine with seattles back court treat of Lewis and Allen. And if we trade sar with an expring contract for Wilcox that would really help them resign lewis.

Wilcox will do great in my opinion here, if he gets the playing time. When he got the playing time in seattle he was a monster on the boards, a great shoot blocker with a decent post game. If his game keeps on developing and he gets the playing time he will do great here.
 

Bricklayer

Don't Make Me Use The Bat
#19
Wilcox will do great in my opinion here, if he gets the playing time. When he got the playing time in seattle he was a monster on the boards, a great shoot blocker with a decent post game. If his game keeps on developing and he gets the playing time he will do great here.

The highlighted thing is the problme -- he is not a great shotblocker. Or even a good one. He''s shown absolutely nothing in that regard in the NBA. He certainly looks like he should be -- has the size and athleticism -- but he gives you KTlike numbers there. Biggest negative (contract aside) about him actually -- where's the defense? Regardless of anything else, has shown no ability to help a team in need of that (like us) shut down the middle.

As for the rest -- it just all depends on whether late last season was his wakeup call or a contract push. If that was him emerging, yeah, he could easily be worth an $8mil contract if he keeps on developing. He's big, athletic, can get on the glass. But if it was just a contract push then...ouch.
 
#20
Beceaus they give up almost nothing and get back a PG with a lot of potneital. Read the write ups on Price from Summer Leage. D'Antoni gets a chubby every time he sees a PG put up points.
Good point the suns do give up little and get a young pg but what somebody does in the summer leauges does not always translet in the NBA. But I have to say he does have potineital and could flouish under Nash.
 

bajaden

Hall of Famer
#21
I loved Wilcox coming out of college, but then Baxter looked good too and has been a bust. I think Wilcox has the famous word, Potential, and it does take bigs a lot longer to develop. You would be gaining youth and athletitism. Probably worth taking a chance on. He is a decent rebounder and has a decent to good post game.
Do I think he's worth 8mil a year. NO! But its not my money.

By the way, Vince Lombardi or someone of similar ilk said that "Potential means you haven't done anything yet"
 
#22
Which he hasn't other than being stuck on the Clipper bench backing up Elton Brand. Then of course that 3-month run he had, which is where the 7-9 million offers are coming from.
 

HndsmCelt

Hall of Famer
#23
Good point the suns do give up little and get a young pg but what somebody does in the summer leauges does not always translet in the NBA. But I have to say he does have potineital and could flouish under Nash.
Hence the word "potential." The basic analysis tham many long time watchers of the NBA take is that a young sophmore still in the leage with potential is a far lesser risk than even a low first round pick. When you start givning up second round picks you are really trading nealry a sure bust for a 40/60 of 30/70 odds guy. I'll make that swap every time.
 
R

Rome

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#30
I don't know about Wilcox... I don't know if he can bring the shotblocking that the Kings need...
Exactly.

I think some people are too high on this guy. He played great during the 2nd half of last year but we tend to forget it was just a contract year for him.

Even with the way he played last year his shot blocking is a question mark due to averaging less than a block per game.