Voisin: Vlade makes mature move dealing with Karl

[Kingster]

One thing is for sure, you will get nothing approaching a fair assessment from anyone in the local media. They all have agendas. It's clear as day.

So the solution is just to let Karl do whatever he wants? I'm confused, has that not been happening?

This gets a LOT worse before it gets better.

Vlade's quote implies that Karl has not been doing whatever he wants, in particular reducing minutes to discipline.

 

[Showtime]

Compared to last year? He had (past tense intional). $13/hr or millions? You admit you checked out but deny him that same part of humanity. In both cases, if it's wrong in one it's wrong in the other. And yes, he shares the blame but not all of it and I wouldn't even go close to saying most of it. But some, yes.

No, you are missing my point. I'm not faulting him for being frustrated. I'm faulting him for how he deals with that frustration.

 

[lwc]

Terrible and unbalanced article IMO.

Maybe that's because you shouldn't have your 6'11" 280 lb cornerstone player playing at the fastest pace in the NBA. Or having him try to attack from the three point line instead of the elbow or low post.

And maybe somebody should tell Aileen that outside of those pin downs to get Marco open on curls the Kings don't run a lot of screens. That's the nature of the dribble drive offense. It means Cousins is either catching outside the three point line or relegated to being the dumpoff five man in most sets. And I hesitate to call them sets because it's nearly all read-and-react with very little being called from the sideline.

When Vlade says they need to figure it out I'm guessing he doesn't mean giving a coach who was rumored to be on his way out complete control to run his offense and/or ship out players that don't fit - aka Boogie.

I'm guessing he means that Karl has to give a little in terms of pace and including more pick and rolls, more horns sets and more low post action. And I'm guessing it means he DOES tell the players to stop grousing and get to work with their coach. But it very surely doesn't mean he tells them to shut up and do whatever Karl says.

I have nothing to say. This is perfect.

 

[pshn80]

One thing is for sure, you will get nothing approaching a fair assessment from anyone in the local media. They all have agendas. It's clear as day.

So the solution is just to let Karl do whatever he wants? I'm confused, has that not been happening?

This gets a LOT worse before it gets better.

This could get a lot worse before it gets better. I agree. Nothing assures us that any change takes place. All I heard Vlade refer to is improving defense. I agree with Voison's analysis but I don't know how Karl will handle whatever new charge he got from Vlade. You and I wold agre, we need o improve our defense. I wish Karl luck in accomplishing that.

 

[Glenn]

Vlade's quote implies that Karl has not been doing whatever he wants, in particular reducing minutes to discipline.

I think there was awhile where Karl clearly adjusted and played Cuz down low more. In fact he said that he was letting his players play at their pace about half time and his pace about half time. Clearly, on the court, that seemed to be so. In the last few games there has been no pattern at all. I do not like a team that goes from crisis to crisis but I would rather this last mini crisis than no reaction at all. Tune in later.

 

[SacTownKid]

I'm sorry, but one should be commended for chasing off a Paul Westphal or Keith Smart. That shows they know what they're doing.

 

[VF21]

One thing is for sure, you will get nothing approaching a fair assessment from anyone in the local media. They all have agendas. It's clear as day.

So the solution is just to let Karl do whatever he wants? I'm confused, has that not been happening?

This gets a LOT worse before it gets better.

I think the solution is to eliminate any possible excuses by Karl or his camp. But yes, I think it still gets worse before it gets better.

 

[VF21]

No, you are missing my point. I'm not faulting him for being frustrated. I'm faulting him for how he deals with that frustration.

I am one of the strongest supporters of DeMarcus Cousins on this board, but I have to agree with Showtime in that regard. DMC absolutely MUST find a way to control his facial expressions, frustrations, etc. Until he does, he's too easy a target for seasoned opponents who can play those faults like a fine fiddle.

I understand his frustrations but he has to rise above them at some point, for his own benefit as much as for ours and the Kings.

 

[Showtime]

I am one of the strongest supporters of DeMarcus Cousins on this board, but I have to agree with Showtime in that regard. DMC absolutely MUST find a way to control his facial expressions, frustrations, etc. Until he does, he's too easy a target for seasoned opponents who can play those faults like a fine fiddle.

I understand his frustrations but he has to rise above them at some point, for his own benefit as much as for ours and the Kings.

The book is out on him. Guys body him up, and if he isn't getting calls by the refs, his frustration will get to him. Outrun him in transition, outwork him on the boards, and you will get opportunities. We saw Lopez, who has been embarrassed by cousins in the past absolutely give a clinic on how a big man should play that last game.

 

[Siranthony]

Very well said. When he scored 104 in two games I was just as excited as everybody else because, first and foremost, I am a die hard Kings fan and that was fun to watch. It was entertaining watching Bricklayer and company gloat as to how he was right and everybody else was wrong. I really hoped he WAS right! However, a great 5 game stretch cannot undo a horrific 5+ seasons of losing basketball. While I would never expect DMC to average 50 points a game, he has yet to show me that he can be consistent with his effort, attitude, playing defense, etc. His biggest problem is he doesn't know how to fight thru adversity. It's like that old saying....the true character of a person is how they act when things are tough, not how they act when things are good.

Here here! That sums it up very well. Thank you!

 

[Chubbs]

Yeah, Ailene nailed this situation.

That new arena is going to be a ghost town by this time next year.

 

[John Galt]

That new arena is going to be a ghost town by this time next year.

Last time I talked to ticket staff, he told me they were 85% sold out. It won't be empty - people will go just to see the giant TV

 

[NewArena]

The problem I have is that today's NBA is more star-friendly than ever, and we have seen franchise players like Kobe, Chris Paul, Dwight, and Lebron carry average teams on their backs to .500. I am willing to admit that Cousins needs more around him to be successful if other people are willing to admit that he may not be as good as people think he is. He isn't the only one at fault here, but he's a factor.

oh please. just two weeks ago, he was playing at an all world level and our record reflected that. Now we hit a rough patch and he aint all that?

 

[New Era]

oh please. just two weeks ago, he was playing at an all world level and our record reflected that. Now we hit a rough patch and he aint all that?

I hate to break it to you but we've been in a "rough patch" for 5+ season with DMC. That 5 game stretch doesn't erase all of that.

 

[King Baller]

I hate to break it to you but we've been in a "rough patch" for 5+ season with DMC. That 5 game stretch doesn't erase all of that.

When did you become a Kings Fan? The "rough patch" extends back a decade.

 

[kingsboi]

I said from the get go let Karl finish out the season. I like the approach Vlade is taking here, this organization all ready has a bad aura surrounding it with all these head coaches changes. In allowing Karl to finish out a full season and then letting him go is the way to go about it and then maybe and hopefully the next head coach he brings in, if he is retained, is here for the long term.

 

[Bosnian Diehard]

What was wrong in that article? The point about his attitude issues? The point about the franchise coddling him without things improving? The point about him not winning (despite every other "superstar" being able to carry below average talent with poor coaching to .500 records)?

Does he deserve all the blame? No. A lot rests on the shoulders of the two ownership groups, mishaps by the front office, and coaching carousel. But much of her points about Cousins and how it negatively effects the franchise are correct.

How's Carmelo's record been in the past couple seasons?

 

[New Era]

When did you become a Kings Fan? The "rough patch" extends back a decade.

I know....I've been a fan since Day 1 when they came to Sac. I was talking about DMC's tenure with the Kings.

 

[macadocious]

When did you become a Kings Fan? The "rough patch" extends back a decade.

Um, the rough patch goes back 30 years, minus 1995 and 1999-2003. SO we have had about 6 good years out of 30. Sounds about right.

And please don't talk to me about the Bonzi/Artest team. That team was brutal to watch and was on a steep decline.

 

[gunks]

Cuz is an arsehole, and needs to be less of an arsehole.

But every coach we've had here, with the exception of Malone, has either been grossly incompetent (your Smarts and Corbin), a total ass themselves, or a brutal combination of the two (Westphail, Karl).

Cuz is like the Dexter of coach killers. Yeah, he killed those coaches, but they deserved it!

He needs to be more professional, but this org needs to throw him, and us fans, a bone, and get a real HC.

And when we get that real HC our owner should be down with Souza, polka, folk, metal. .... Whatever. No more firing people for not being jazzy enough.

 

[dude12]

Cuz is an arsehole, and needs to be less of an arsehole.

But every coach we've had here, with the exception of Malone, has either been grossly incompetent (your Smarts and Corbin), a total ass themselves, or a brutal combination of the two (Westphail, Karl).

Cuz is like the Dexter of coach killers. Yeah, he killed those coaches, but they deserved it!

He needs to be more professional, but this org needs to throw him, and us fans, a bone, and get a real HC.

And when we get that real HC our owner should be down with Souza, polka, folk, metal. .... Whatever. No more firing people for not being jazzy enough.

It's been a fairly crappy list of head coaches sans Malone and then bad fit or just old or just incompetent Karl......if they could just nail the next head coach...get it right Vlade!