I would do this today if I could. Was never a fan of Brown, and I feel he hurt the Olympic team, and his ego set back the Knicks a year. Would never had looked to Brown last year or even earlier this offseason, but what do we have to lose now. Either he comes in and stabilizes the team or destroys them, and I feel the team needs a little bit of destroying.
Voisin: Brown Interested in Kings Job (merged)
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I am for Larry Brown.
He is probably the ONLY coach on the block that can command respect from Ron Artest. If we want another year like last year with Ron then all we need to do is hire another unaccomplished coach.
We ARE rebuilding. We need a coach that can grill fundamentals into our players. Larry happens to be the only one that has proven he can do that. He might even be able to teach the vets a thing or two.
We want defense? Brown can do that.
The fact that an accomplished coach wants to be here speaks volumes to me. Sure, it is his last ticket at a payday. And it is our last ticket at a decent coach.
We don't need to keep Larry around for 10 years either. Give him 2 or 3 years to turn this boat around.
It is practically a no-brainer. Get it done, and step 1 of the rebuild is complete.
He is probably the ONLY coach on the block that can command respect from Ron Artest. If we want another year like last year with Ron then all we need to do is hire another unaccomplished coach.
We ARE rebuilding. We need a coach that can grill fundamentals into our players. Larry happens to be the only one that has proven he can do that. He might even be able to teach the vets a thing or two.
We want defense? Brown can do that.
The fact that an accomplished coach wants to be here speaks volumes to me. Sure, it is his last ticket at a payday. And it is our last ticket at a decent coach.
We don't need to keep Larry around for 10 years either. Give him 2 or 3 years to turn this boat around.
It is practically a no-brainer. Get it done, and step 1 of the rebuild is complete.
You would be lucky to get 2 to 3 years out of him. Actually, I ma not sure whether that would be lucky or not. People tire of his selfish me me me whining in a much shorter period than that.
Worst part is that he directly clashes/challenges/tries to overrule his GMs. Always thought that Geoff was the greatest potential casualty of Larry Brown. And if Brown was 50 and you somwhow knew you could keep him for 10 years, that would be one thing. But as an old fart just looking to score some cash and toss a little topsoil over his Knicks debacle, he comes, he sows discord and chaos, he rides off into the sunset with your money. Yay?
Worst part is that he directly clashes/challenges/tries to overrule his GMs. Always thought that Geoff was the greatest potential casualty of Larry Brown. And if Brown was 50 and you somwhow knew you could keep him for 10 years, that would be one thing. But as an old fart just looking to score some cash and toss a little topsoil over his Knicks debacle, he comes, he sows discord and chaos, he rides off into the sunset with your money. Yay?
I definitely agree with most of this. While I would have some serious reservations about Brown, I'd hope that the whole Knicks fiasco might have taught him a little humility. Also as some have said he might be realizing that the time is running out for him to coach and cement his legacy and I'd be surprised if he wants the Knicks mess to be the last thing he is remembered for. He has said he doesn't mind a re-build job and still wants to teach, so if he is comfortable with getting a team of youngsters and teaching and molding them even for just 2-3 years I think we absolutely need to consider Brown and he should be the favorite considering the slim pickings that are left.
Basic Math:
1. Lary's last check from NY was 10 Mil
2. Kings are compleetly lost with nothing to loose and no sure coaches availalbe.
3. Loosing 70+ games would position us well for next years lotto.
4. The Kings just had to pay off Muss a million or so to go away.
5. Brown wants to redeem his rep and is despreate for an NBA team to give
him a chance
So: Sign B rown to a one year trial contract for say 2 million dollars... Heck the Maloofs could even let Lary make payments rather than expecting him to cough up the whole 2 mill right up front.
1. Lary's last check from NY was 10 Mil
2. Kings are compleetly lost with nothing to loose and no sure coaches availalbe.
3. Loosing 70+ games would position us well for next years lotto.
4. The Kings just had to pay off Muss a million or so to go away.
5. Brown wants to redeem his rep and is despreate for an NBA team to give
him a chance
So: Sign B rown to a one year trial contract for say 2 million dollars... Heck the Maloofs could even let Lary make payments rather than expecting him to cough up the whole 2 mill right up front.
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Grant says he thinks if the kings hire Brown it would get this town excited again and he said even if u hire him there is nothing to lose because ur not going to be good for a few years and by good he meant upper echilian team and if it doesnt work out so what. Grant said If he wants to coach here go out and hire him. You have nothing to lose. Grant though thinks he is the best possible coaching canidate out there so go hire Larry Brown. Also Grant said though he doesnt think it will happen and thinks the new kings coach will be either Scott Brooks,Brian Shaw, or Reggie Theus.
I don't really think we'd have anything to lose at this point, I'd be more jazzed about Brown then any of the current names being thrown around, especially if one of the others was brought in to be mentored under Brown. If you make his contract contigent on that role, when the time comes for Brown to go it might not even be painful for either party.
1. Not my money so I don't lose sleep over it.
2. Directly clashing with the GM huh? Well it just happens to be that Larry Brown thinks highly of Geoff Petrie. Isiah Thomas has been comedic relief for the last couple years. As much as I don't care for all of GP's work, he is hardly Isiah.
3. If Larry wants to throw topsoil over his Knicks debacle by turning my team's future around, by all means let the man throw.
Larry Brown is hardly perfect. But at this point, he's the best option we got so what is the hangup? You think he's going to ruin this organization and just walk away laughing? Well I hate to break it to you but none of the competition shows any signs of leading this organization any further than Larry Brown could so again I ask, what's the hangup?
2. Directly clashing with the GM huh? Well it just happens to be that Larry Brown thinks highly of Geoff Petrie. Isiah Thomas has been comedic relief for the last couple years. As much as I don't care for all of GP's work, he is hardly Isiah.
3. If Larry wants to throw topsoil over his Knicks debacle by turning my team's future around, by all means let the man throw.
Larry Brown is hardly perfect. But at this point, he's the best option we got so what is the hangup? You think he's going to ruin this organization and just walk away laughing? Well I hate to break it to you but none of the competition shows any signs of leading this organization any further than Larry Brown could so again I ask, what's the hangup?
LOL @ fickle fans. It kills me.
All these years of saying that Adelman is a coach who doesn't have what it takes to win a championship (it's a players' league, btw).
People whining and crying and insisting that they deserve a coach with championship experience, all the while forgetting that there are only 3 ACTIVE COACHES in the league that have championship rings.
Now here comes another coaching candidate actually HAS won a championship and offers his services. A guy who took the Clippers in the pre Elton Brand era to the playoffs. Not only that, but he's the only coach in ages to win a championship without the benefit of a Top 5 player on his team.
The response: No thanks! We don't want this scumbag because of ONE losing season with a poorly run organization.
LMAO
All these years of saying that Adelman is a coach who doesn't have what it takes to win a championship (it's a players' league, btw).
People whining and crying and insisting that they deserve a coach with championship experience, all the while forgetting that there are only 3 ACTIVE COACHES in the league that have championship rings.
Now here comes another coaching candidate actually HAS won a championship and offers his services. A guy who took the Clippers in the pre Elton Brand era to the playoffs. Not only that, but he's the only coach in ages to win a championship without the benefit of a Top 5 player on his team.
The response: No thanks! We don't want this scumbag because of ONE losing season with a poorly run organization.
LMAO
I wasn't aware everyone was demanding a coach with championship experience. Most people here loved the idea of SVG and has doesn't have any championship experience as a head coach. We need a coach who will fit in with our rebuilding team and Larry Brown is not that, everything is his way or the highway. He'd only cause us problems. We can't compete right now, he's worthless to us. The only way we're going to get back into contention is by building towards the future.
As my name indicates, being a Kings fan in NY, I feel I can provide some insight into Larry Brown's most recent coaching tenure. Plain and simple...
HE WAS A DISASTER!
His coaching tactics were so bad that Knick management tried to get out of paying him under the contract, in effect saying that he coached so poorly that HE breached the contract, The Knicks basically gave him 40 million dollars just to go away.
As others have already stated, he doesn't play the young players. He is not a good fit here. We should look for a young coach who can grow with the team. Larry Brown had his day. He was a world class coach when he had his drive. He is now an older coach, in not such good health, who is in it for a paycheck. Stay away.
HE WAS A DISASTER!
His coaching tactics were so bad that Knick management tried to get out of paying him under the contract, in effect saying that he coached so poorly that HE breached the contract, The Knicks basically gave him 40 million dollars just to go away.
As others have already stated, he doesn't play the young players. He is not a good fit here. We should look for a young coach who can grow with the team. Larry Brown had his day. He was a world class coach when he had his drive. He is now an older coach, in not such good health, who is in it for a paycheck. Stay away.
According to the Knicks, Larry Brown was fired for "insubordination" and after some legal haggling he was not paid the total remaining on his contact but given about $18 million to get lost. I'm not sure he's "in it for a paycheck," but possibly more interested in his parting shot reputation - which is basically what he told Voisin.