Tyson Chandler

[Entity]

Given that none of the guys are star level players, there reamins, as there did with the Thabeet scenario, plenty of minutes for 3 bigs in a 3 big rotation. 96 minutes at the two spots. That's 32 per man. More realistically maybe 34, 34, 28 or some such. And that's before the numbers get a little inflated when one or the other of them is out and the remianing two have to pick up the slack.

I am afraid its looking more and more like Diogu will be getting that 28. I just don't see anybody taking the Beno or Noc contract at this point in time with teams wanting to save money for next offseason. Now KT is a different story but then you have to ask yourself do we want to put ourselves back into a hole it took us 4 years to get out of. If we trade KT's expiring the incoming player better damn well be worth it.

btw I am still very interested in the Beno-Tinsley swap with Hibbert coming our way as well. we may have to toss in the rights to Casspi and a 2nd rounder.

 

[Kings Faithful]

The two might be related you know.

If Chandler's got somethign chronic, then yes its a concern. Until I hear that then he's jsut somewhat injury prone and that's not a huge dealk fro a 3rd big.,\

Exactly, people are waying overblowing his injury problem. Just look at his "games played" on his NBA.com profile... and to say that he was only a tad better than Mikki Moore is ridiculous... despite being injured most of the time he still managed to put up 8 boards a game. Moore couldn't get 8 boards in 8 games. I would say his offense may be a result of Chris Paul, but that's not what he is known for... his defense is what we need and the absence of Paul won't change that. He would be a huge help to our "get tough" plan we have been following.

 

[beb0p]

The two might be related you know.

If Chandler's got somethign chronic, then yes its a concern. Until I hear that then he's jsut somewhat injury prone and that's not a huge dealk fro a 3rd big.,\

Of course the two are related. Injury, severe drop in production, and now you need to connect the third dot: on the trading block. Is the light bulb turning on?

Get with the program, it has already been reported that NO is concerned about Chandler's health and his huge salary. But let's forget about that for a minute and let's focus on this: $12 millions per year for a 3rd big on a team sure to miss the playoff? When did we become the Real Madrid of the NBA?

Anyway one spins it, it's not a good idea.

 

[Circa_1985_Fan]

+1, Much of Tyson's success is a result of being on the floor with Chris Paul. But what Camby does, rebound, block shots and defend he mostly does on his own.

KB

Which is exactly why I said that...I think Camby would be a great guy to look at next summer, and he wouldn't cost a whole lot either, he's in the last year of his deal and makes $7 million, not bad for a guy who gives you 10-15 rebs/2-3 blocks a night. I think he'd be a great veteren guy to add off the bench, I doubt he'd really be looking to be a 'star' at this point in his career, winning and being a part of something meaningful probably mean more.

 

[Bricklayer]

Of course the two are related. Injury, severe drop in production, and now you need to connect the third dot: on the trading block. Is the light bulb turning on?

Get with the program, it has already been reported that NO is concerned about Chandler's health and his huge salary. But let's forget about that for a minute and let's focus on this: $12 millions per year for a 3rd big on a team sure to miss the playoff? When did we become the Real Madrid of the NBA?

Anyway one spins it, it's not a good idea.

New Orleans is broke, and Chandler is the only one of their assets that is moveable -- that's why they are focused on moving him ratehr than Peja or one oftheir lesser bad contracts. He's the one they can shed.

And Chandler is young enough to be the third big for a long time. Or the first or second as it gives us flexibility. And while we won't be making the playoffs next year, if your frontcourt is 3 young starting quality near 7 footers and Evans turns out to be the real deal, there is no rule that says you could not have this thing turned around. Its not written in stone that we suck forever. Evans, Martin, Cisco, Nocioni, Chandler, Thompson and Hawes is a good group of 7 players (assuming again that Evans is the real deal, which we almost have to for planning purposes).

 

[Entity]

I still like Hibbert. He is bigger, Younger, Stronger.

 

[bozzwell]

Pedja is obviously a "no". If he doesn't retire he cannot play at anything approaching his salary level. If he does retire (for medical reasons) NO would obviously want him to do it as their player so they get the benefit of insurance and cap number phased out.

As for Chandler - every time his name mentions in this here board, I get excited like a little child. I watched Chandler from his first preseason game with Bulls. Even a causal NBA fan knows that Chandler can rebound, block shots and scrap for ball on both ends of the court with the best of them. But what I will remember the most about Tyson in a Bulls uni (I used to go to a lot of Bulls games through my old employer, not just when they played Kings):

- How he would (on occasions) make Eddy Curry look like an All Star. Tyson would defend, rebound, hustle and even energize fat boy himself (Curry), and free him up to score. Like in a game against Celts when Curry scored all but 2 of 4th quarter points for the bulls.

- How he would provide one man team defence, as the rest of the team was young, inexperienced headless chicken. Just a year after Bulls lost to Wolves by 50 points, Chandler blocked KG 3 times in the last minute to preserve narrow lead for the Bulls.

- Most importantly, how he made Heinrich look like a future All Star or a second coming of John Stockton. Tyson is not a threat from mid-range, cannot put the ball on the floor so pick-and-roll with Kirk was always out of the question. But because he is a tireless and selfless player, who will set screens for others, Bulls devised the sets for him, I don't remember what they called it - Screen and Swing or some other nonsense, where Tyson would give up his body for his perimeter players to get open or for the ball to swing (through him). Tribune had nice illustrations and graphs and all that. Once Tyson left, Heinrich turned into floor board inspector that he is now (drible-drible-drible-get lost).

As much as CP is good for Tyson offensively, Tyson helps that team be a near elite team when he is on the floor. Tyson does not make CP or West better (he is not a superstar) but he does make it easier for CP and West to play their game.

He would be awesome in a Kings uni and he would be well worth the risk (of injuries). Spence would get to play away from the hoop without hurting us and JT would get more open around the basket with Tyson stepping out and screening. As for his offence, well Martin and Evans don't have to be like CP, they too can lob alley-hoops as well as anyone. It's not that hard when there is 7'1'' leaper on the other end.

 

[SacKings7]

I read online today that Phoenix may trade Big Ben for Chandler

 

[Bricklayer]

I read online today that Phoenix may trade Big Ben for Chandler

thus basically trading old Shaq for Tyson Chandler -- which would have been a nifty trade by Kerr straight across.

 

[beb0p]

New Orleans is broke, and Chandler is the only one of their assets that is moveable -- that's why they are focused on moving him ratehr than Peja or one oftheir lesser bad contracts. He's the one they can shed.

And Chandler is young enough to be the third big for a long time. Or the first or second as it gives us flexibility. And while we won't be making the playoffs next year, if your frontcourt is 3 young starting quality near 7 footers and Evans turns out to be the real deal, there is no rule that says you could not have this thing turned around. Its not written in stone that we suck forever. Evans, Martin, Cisco, Nocioni, Chandler, Thompson and Hawes is a good group of 7 players (assuming again that Evans is the real deal, which we almost have to for planning purposes).

Patience people. Patience. This ship is not going to turn around in one move. The last thing we need is another quick fix.

If Chandler has a modest salary then perhaps you can say why not. But it makes no sense to have the highest paid player sitting on the bench; and behind two young bigs who will likely get 35 mins a game. That's assuming Chandler will accept coming off the bench, a big assumption that has no basis in fact. At a time when we need cap flexibility, Chandler's contract essentially kills it.

NO being broke is not the only reason they're trying to trade Tyson. He has a history of back injury dating back to his rookie year. He just had another break down and it has been reported that the NO FO is frigthened. Think of it as an toxic asset dump and perhaps you'll get it.

 

[Bricklayer]

Patience people. Patience. This ship is not going to turn around in one move. The last thing we need is another quick fix.

If Chandler has a modest salary then perhaps you can say why not. But it makes no sense to have the highest paid player sitting on the bench; and behind two young bigs who will likely get 35 mins a game. That's assuming Chandler will accept coming off the bench, a big assumption that has no basis in fact. At a time when we need cap flexibility, Chandler's contract essentially kills it.

NO being broke is not the only reason they're trying to trade Tyson. He has a history of back injury dating back to his rookie year. He just had another break down and it has been reported that the NO FO is frigthened. Think of it as an toxic asset dump and perhaps you'll get it.

Oh I think I get it just fine. I am wondering though how many starting quality mobile 7'1" defending/rebounding centers you think there are running around out there.

I am I suppose a little confused about why so many NBA teams are interested in and apparently willing to trade things of value for this toxic asset, but maybe they don't have your inside pipeline to the Hornets' training room. I would think Chris Paul would though, so I'm probably a little puzzled why he'd still want to play wiht a washed up anvil.

 

[beb0p]

Oh I think I get it just fine. I am wondering though how many starting quality mobile 7'1" defending/rebounding centers you think there are running around out there.

I am I suppose a little confused about why so many NBA teams are interested in and apparently willing to trade things of value for this toxic asset, but maybe they don't have your inside pipeline to the Hornets' training room. I would think Chris Paul would though, so I'm probably a little puzzled why he'd still want to play wiht a washed up anvil.

We're not the Suns or the Hornets. For those teams, yeah, roll the dice and take a chance on Chandler. But the last thing the Kings need is a $12M a year backup.

In fact, When discussing the departure of Marcin Gortat , the Magic GM said Marcin Gortat's MLE would have been "too rich" for a backup on the team. An MLE was too much for a backup on the Magic. But somehow you think a $12M backup on the Kings is just great.

All I have to say is, Otis Smith is right.

 

[SacKings7]

We're not the Suns or the Hornets. For those teams, yeah, roll the dice and take a chance on Chandler. But the last thing the Kings need is a $12M a year backup.

In fact, When discussing the departure of Marcin Gortat , the Magic GM said Marcin Gortat's MLE would have been "too rich" for a backup on the team. An MLE was too much for a backup on the Magic. But somehow you think a $12M backup on the Kings is just great.

All I have to say is, Otis Smith is right.

Who says he'd need to be a backup? I'm sure Hawes wouldn't mind getting 30 minutes a night off the bench

 

[ParniValjak]

We're not the Suns or the Hornets. For those teams, yeah, roll the dice and take a chance on Chandler. But the last thing the Kings need is a $12M a year backup.

In fact, When discussing the departure of Marcin Gortat , the Magic GM said Marcin Gortat's MLE would have been "too rich" for a backup on the team. An MLE was too much for a backup on the Magic. But somehow you think a $12M backup on the Kings is just great.

All I have to say is, Otis Smith is right.

Magic said that because they are well in the luxury tax and as such the contract that Gortat gets will cost them double.

If he is getting $5.6 million from Dallas that would be $11.2 million that Magic would have to pay to keep him around and considering that Howard will get his 38 mpg and the way they line up is surrounding Howard with 3 pt shooters, there would be about 15 mpg max left for Gortat. $11.2 million for 15mpg from Gortat is way over the top. Now if they didn't have Howard manning the middle they would have offers more than MLE to keep Gortat.

 

[Bricklayer]

We're not the Suns or the Hornets. For those teams, yeah, roll the dice and take a chance on Chandler. But the last thing the Kings need is a $12M a year backup.

In fact, When discussing the departure of Marcin Gortat , the Magic GM said Marcin Gortat's MLE would have been "too rich" for a backup on the team. An MLE was too much for a backup on the Magic. But somehow you think a $12M backup on the Kings is just great.

All I have to say is, Otis Smith is right.

They are a team with a $35mil a year 80min a night frontline in Howard/Lewis, and all their rebounding/interior defensive needs taken care of by Dwight.

We are a team with a $5mil a year frontline and no ability to stop anybody inside.

You are right that the situations aren't comparable -- we are a team with needs, money, and minutes available. They are a team with none of the above.

 

[KingsInBrazil]

at this point Nocione is a much better player and fit for Sacramento than Peja is, besides we can find better suitors or trade partners for Thomas nearly $9M expiring contract...

I dont see the Kings trading Nocione for now, I bet we're making use of him until the end of his contract as he adds the toughness we've been waiting for years... with Andres, Tyreke, Thompson and Garcia we're going to see a different Kings... One with hustle, heart, energy and thoughness we can no longer be called soft with all those guys...

Peja and Chandler are both injury prone players, keep them far away... I'd rather go for Atlanta's Josh Smith or Amaré...Josh Smith is a proven defender, rebounder and shot blocker, besides being a slasher up front... Imagine the defense and toughness of a team with this line-up:

Tyreke Evans
Francisco Garcia (When Martin sits)
Andres Nocione
Josh Smith
Spencer Hawes (ok, soft but not everything is perfect)

I'd trade Thompson and K9 expiring for Josh Smith withouth thinking twice or maybe Thompson and Beno Udrih since they lack a PG now that Bibby is gone and Claxton and Acie Law got traded...

 

[AriesMar27]

why does everyone have chandler coming off the bench? since when is he better than hawes? we need defense, rebounding, shot blocking and so on... why would we let him sit on the bench? i like hawes but i wouldnt lose any sleep if he or thompson came off the bench for another year...

and nocioni is not the player that we need on this team, he's the new kenny thomas. he doesnt help us and we cant trade him for someone who can because of his contract. i guess the same could be said for beno and probably garcia to a certain extent. sometimes the best moves are the ones you dont make, we made 3 bad ones, signed beno to that horrible contract, traded for nocioni and resigned garcia. we wouldve been better off not doing anything.

 

[HighTopKicks]

why does everyone have chandler coming off the bench? since when is he better than hawes? we need defense, rebounding, shot blocking and so on... why would we let him sit on the bench? i like hawes but i wouldnt lose any sleep if he or thompson came off the bench for another year...

and nocioni is not the player that we need on this team, he's the new kenny thomas. he doesnt help us and we cant trade him for someone who can because of his contract. i guess the same could be said for beno and probably garcia to a certain extent. sometimes the best moves are the ones you dont make, we made 3 bad ones, signed beno to that horrible contract, traded for nocioni and resigned garcia. we wouldve been better off not doing anything.

Beno's contract is bad, garcia's is too much, and we had to sign Noc and give away Salmon's to trade Miller, so yes, I agree with your last sentence. As to the rest, I disagree.
Noc has a decreasing contract, he's healthy, tough, and can play the 3 & 4. I think the Kings will find many teams interested in him when they decide to move him. And, they won't have to take back a lot of bad contracts to do it. I believe, the Noc and KT will be moved at the trade deadline, for 2010 FA talent.

Chandler is not better than Hawes. Offensively, Hawes is better in every way. He's also 5yrs younger and more athletic. Hawes showed unexpected shot blocking skills and rebounds well on the Defensive glass. With some increase muscle and more PT, no way Chandler beats out Hawes for the starting 5.

Right now Hawes & JT need time to develop at their natural positions. Bring in a big time 4 or 5 like Chandler or Boozer, will force either Spencer or JT to play time out of position. This can only hurt their development and hurt the teams performance. Let Hawes & JT start, don't overspend and just bring in true backups for at least a year or two. I'd rather see Diogu and Booth back, and have Spencer play 35-40 mpg at Center and JT the same at PF.

We need to know exactly what we have before we start spending big money on pieces that aren't going to make us a Finals contender. Let the youth get us to the playoffs then add players to take us to the championship.

 

[roasthawg]

Let Hawes & JT start, don't overspend and just bring in true backups for at least a year or two. I'd rather see Diogu and Booth back, and have Spencer play 35-40 mpg at Center and JT the same at PF.

We need to know exactly what we have before we start spending big money on pieces that aren't going to make us a Finals contender. Let the youth get us to the playoffs then add players to take us to the championship.

I agree with everything said in these two paragraphs.

 

[beb0p]

Who says he'd need to be a backup? I'm sure Hawes wouldn't mind getting 30 minutes a night off the bench

How exactly can you give Hawes 30 mins off the bench? Play Chandler 18 mins? Play Hawes at PF?

It doesn't work. This is not fantasy basketball guys.

 

[beb0p]

Magic said that because they are well in the luxury tax and as such the contract that Gortat gets will cost them double.

If he is getting $5.6 million from Dallas that would be $11.2 million that Magic would have to pay to keep him around and considering that Howard will get his 38 mpg and the way they line up is surrounding Howard with 3 pt shooters, there would be about 15 mpg max left for Gortat. $11.2 million for 15mpg from Gortat is way over the top. Now if they didn't have Howard manning the middle they would have offers more than MLE to keep Gortat.

Ok, let me understand this, the Magic is smart to not pay $11.2 million for a backup because Howard is getting 38 mins.

The Kings are dumb to not pay $12 millions for a backup because Hawes is not getting 38 mins right?

Oh wait, Hawes is getting 35-38 mins a game. So what now?

 

[beb0p]

You are right that the situations aren't comparable -- we are a team with needs, money, and minutes available. They are a team with none of the above.

We are also a team rebuilding with youth and maintaining cap room. The Magic is a "win-now" team who is going for broke. If anything, it should be the Magic who should roll the dice, not us.

We don't need Chandler. Just as we don't need Bibby, Hedo, Marion. Of course there are always players who can make this team better, but at what cost? At this point, we need to be patient and methodically; not impulsive and pull another expensive acquisition that doesn't pan out.

 

[beb0p]

Right now Hawes & JT need time to develop at their natural positions. Bring in a big time 4 or 5 like Chandler or Boozer, will force either Spencer or JT to play time out of position. This can only hurt their development and hurt the teams performance. Let Hawes & JT start, don't overspend and just bring in true backups for at least a year or two. I'd rather see Diogu and Booth back, and have Spencer play 35-40 mpg at Center and JT the same at PF.

Finally, a voice of reason.

Thank you, HighTopKicks.

 

[LPKingsFan]

Beno's contract is bad, garcia's is too much, and we had to sign Noc and give away Salmon's to trade Miller, so yes, I agree with your last sentence. As to the rest, I disagree.
Noc has a decreasing contract, he's healthy, tough, and can play the 3 & 4. I think the Kings will find many teams interested in him when they decide to move him. And, they won't have to take back a lot of bad contracts to do it. I believe, the Noc and KT will be moved at the trade deadline, for 2010 FA talent.

Chandler is not better than Hawes. Offensively, Hawes is better in every way. He's also 5yrs younger and more athletic. Hawes showed unexpected shot blocking skills and rebounds well on the Defensive glass. With some increase muscle and more PT, no way Chandler beats out Hawes for the starting 5.

Right now Hawes & JT need time to develop at their natural positions. Bring in a big time 4 or 5 like Chandler or Boozer, will force either Spencer or JT to play time out of position. This can only hurt their development and hurt the teams performance. Let Hawes & JT start, don't overspend and just bring in true backups for at least a year or two. I'd rather see Diogu and Booth back, and have Spencer play 35-40 mpg at Center and JT the same at PF.

We need to know exactly what we have before we start spending big money on pieces that aren't going to make us a Finals contender. Let the youth get us to the playoffs then add players to take us to the championship.

Unlike Boozer, Chandler does not change anyone's position or role with the team. Again, there are 96 minutes to be played at the power forward and center positions. You can play Spencer and JT 35 minutes a game all you want (if JT can even stay on the court that long with his fouls) and that still leaves 26 minutes a game for backups. Chandler can play both the 4 and 5, and addresses the most important weaknesses this team has--interior defense and shotblocking. In his career, he has averaged 28 minutes, 8 points, 9 rebounds, and 1.4 blocks per game. Are you saying we couldn't use that? Really?

Yes, I want to see what Hawes and Thompson can do with more time on the floor together. I'm excited to see what chemistry they can continue to develop, starting this summer in Vegas. Yes, we need to know what we have, but barring a miracle neither Hawes nor Thompson is going to suddenly turn into a defensive stopper inside. I like both their games, I think they have a lot of room to grow, but that just is not who they are. That's fine. We know we're going to need to add an interior defender at some point... so why not now? It's not like Chandler is terribly old--he's only about five months older than Martin.

Now, if you want to disagree about how to obtain Chandler, I'll listen. There are many scenarios that can be thought up, and the one with Peja coming back is especially poor. But to dismiss Chandler as someone who won't address the team's needs and will get in the way of Shock and Hawes is simply inaccurate.

 

[LPKingsFan]

We are also a team rebuilding with youth and maintaining cap room. The Magic is a "win-now" team who is going for broke. If anything, it should be the Magic who should roll the dice, not us.

We don't need Chandler. Just as we don't need Bibby, Hedo, Marion. Of course there are always players who can make this team better, but at what cost? At this point, we need to be patient and methodically; not impulsive and pull another expensive acquisition that doesn't pan out.

We don't need a lecture about how to rebuild. You'll notice that many of us advocating for Chandler are the same who have been clamoring for a full-on rebuild for quite some time. As far as I was concerned, it took Geoff plenty long to finally clean out the dead weight vets, play the kids, and net a top draft pick. But we did that this season. You can't be rebuilding forver. At some point, you need to bottom out, and start putting pieces back together again.

Chandler is different than Bibby, Hedo or Marion. As I posted above, he's not that old, just a few months older than Kevin Martin in fact. If Kevin is a piece for the future, then so is Chandler. Plus, while we just drafted our future point guard, and have small forwards up the wazoo, there is still a place on this team for a big man who can play defense. You add a Chandler, through some combination of cap space and KT's ender, and you've accelerated the rebuild, not derailed it. You look at a lineup of this:

Hawes/Chandler
Thompson/Chandler/Brockman
Nocioni/Garcia/Greene/Casspi
Martin/Garcia
Evans/Udrih/Rodriguez

and really, you've got a lot of pieces covered. Get the SF situation worked out, maybe find another home for Beno, and you're pretty much on the right track. No #1 star, but the hope is Evans can turn out to be that guy. And you're not signing one in 2010, either (my Joe Johnson fantasy scenarios aside). What's the point of 2010 capspace then? Signing a vet (but not one who's too old) who can help get this team going the right direction again. Why not do it a season earlier with Chandler? Especially when his price is so low.

 

[beb0p]

You can play Spencer and JT 35 minutes a game all you want (if JT can even stay on the court that long with his fouls) and that still leaves 26 minutes a game for backups. Chandler can play both the 4 and 5, and addresses the most important weaknesses this team has--interior defense and shotblocking. In his career, he has averaged 28 minutes, 8 points, 9 rebounds, and 1.4 blocks per game. Are you saying we couldn't use that? Really?

I'm not saying you're wrong, but can you explain how do you use the substitution to get Chandler 26 mins?

Currently, the Kings (and most NBA teams) play the starting bigs about 9 mins a quarter. If you play them too many consecutive mins they get worn out, not enough mins and they don't get in rhythm. So how would you run your sub to give the starters 9 mins/quarter but still manage to give Chandler 26 mins total? Keep in mind that JT/Hawes must 1) start the game, 2) start the 3rd quarter, and 3) finish the game. I did the math, it's possible but the sub pattern would have to be very strange to make the numbers work. But maybe you have something in mind that I haven't thought of.

We don't need a lecture about how to rebuild. You'll notice that many of us advocating for Chandler are the same who have been clamoring for a full-on rebuild for quite some time.

Not exactly. I'm one of the few who wanted a rebuild and actually stuck to it. Many others said they want a rebuild but all so ready to pay big bucks for quick fixes, be it Nene, Boozer, Hedo, and now Chandler. If we're going to take on a $12 million a year player, he better be more just a backup. Plus, he is a rental. A two-year rental. You'll be dreaming if you think he'll stick around for a backup role on a losing franchise.

Signing a vet (but not one who's too old) who can help get this team going the right direction again. Why not do it a season earlier with Chandler? Especially when his price is so low.

$12 millions per year is price low? On what planet?

 

[ParniValjak]

Ok, let me understand this, the Magic is smart to not pay $11.2 million for a backup because Howard is getting 38 mins.

The Kings are dumb to not pay $12 millions for a backup because Hawes is not getting 38 mins right?

Oh wait, Hawes is getting 35-38 mins a game. So what now?

Surely you cannot be that thick?!

Howard brings EVERYTHING that Gortat does plus some more. Our centres bring NOTHING that someone like Chandler or Gortat would bring. Hawes doesn't defend well, doesn't rebound well and doesn't block/alter shots well. In other words he intimidates no one.

Give me Howard at C and I wouldn't even consider getting Chandler or Gortat.

 

[Capt. Factorial]

I'm not saying you're wrong, but can you explain how do you use the substitution to get Chandler 26 mins?

Currently, the Kings (and most NBA teams) play the starting bigs about 9 mins a quarter. If you play them too many consecutive mins they get worn out, not enough mins and they don't get in rhythm. So how would you run your sub to give the starters 9 mins/quarter but still manage to give Chandler 26 mins total? Keep in mind that JT/Hawes must 1) start the game, 2) start the 3rd quarter, and 3) finish the game. I did the math, it's possible but the sub pattern would have to be very strange to make the numbers work. But maybe you have something in mind that I haven't thought of.

It's not that terribly hard to do. For instance:

First quarter: Start Hawes and Thompson. At 6:00 bring in Chandler for Thompson. Total: Hawes 12, Thompson 6, Chandler 6.
Second quarter: Start Thompson and Chandler. At 5:30 bring in Hawes for Chandler. Total: Thompson 12, Chandler 6:30, Hawes 5:30.
Third quarter: Start Hawes and Thompson. At 6:30 bring in Chandler for Thompson. Total: Hawes 12, Thompson 5:30, Chandler 6:30.
Fourth quarter: Start Thompson and Chandler. At 6:00 bring in Hawes for Chandler. Total: Thompson 12, Chandler 6, Hawes 6.
Gamewide total: Hawes 35:30, Thompson 35:30, Chandler 25

All your criteria are met and no big plays more than 12:30 consecutive floor minutes. Since we'd often see Hawes or Thompson play the entire first quarter and then start the second last year, I don't think 12 straight minutes would tire them out.

Obviously no sub pattern is that clean, you've got foul trouble and the like. But in principle it's not a hard sub pattern.

 

[kingsnation]

Just read through this thread and I have to say I'd love to have Chandler.. but only as a reserve. If he's willing to get those 25 mpg off the bench as mentioned by The Captain, I say Kings jump on it.

 

[AriesMar27]

hawes can come off the bench and still learn how to play his position. if anything it would help thompson and hawes. chandler doesnt want the ball, more importantly doesnt need it to be effective. he would be the only one on the team who doesnt want or need the ball and still be worth every penny...

i dont get what the big deal is with no one wanting to obtain good players because we have a couple of inexperienced players already on the team at that position... i dont want amare because we have thompson, i dont want chandler because we have hawes... wtf? do you guys want to sit through another season like last season? i dont live in sacramento but there is no way that i will pay extra cash for league pass just to watch my team lose every game. i live in los angeles, i can watch the clippers lose for free.... well they will be better than the kings this season so i wont be missing out on anything, they might win more than 20 games...

if chandler makes our team better and doesnt cost us a core player why not make the trade? especially if he is only a 2 year rental. what will hawes and thompson accomplish in 2 years that will be hindered by having chandler? tyson will play defense and rebound, there is a good chance that thompson and hawes wont... or cant in some cases.