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Big Cuz 15

Big Cuz 15

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Glenn said:
I'm fed up also. I am trying to find glimmers of hope or at least excuses that mean our team will be better managed in the future. This IT injury didn't help and as you say, we are probably lucky there were no IT health problems before this. He gets banged around a lot and although that shows his heart (BFD, BTW), it also shows how vulnerable the Kings are.

This Royce White thing didn't help and as people say "what does it hurt to sign him to a couple 10 day contracts?" I have to say that the likelihood of White contributing to the Kings is less than 1%. If you are going to waste money, waste it on someone who might help. The fact that in the three games White has been under contract he has played less than 2 minutes doesn't tell me why he has gotten so little time but I can't in my imagination come up with any reson that is positive. This guy was doomed to be a failure. Now we are signing some shot blocker who just played in China. I have nothing against that except now we have White and whoever this guy is. We need a guard and if we are hoping to make a long shot score on a 10 day contract guy, let's get a guard to fill a temporary need.

This FO has left me scratching my head more than I would like. They are flailing about but I have faith in Vivek. I don't have faith in anyone else.
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glenn,

i get the glimmer of hope but if the season was meant to lose... at least do it right and rip off the band aid. if we had no intentions of keeping jimmer n other players, we should have given more minutes to those who were in the future plans like mcallum and mclemore. i have high hopes for those 2 gentlemen. i strongly believe ben's not being put in the right position to thrive with isaiah in the starting line up. it just won't happen. he's frozen out of the offense like reke was. if the future plan is to start our "big 3", we will need to find some players who don't need any touches to be effective. thabo sefolosha comes to mind.

i like the royce white move. what more do we have to lose? theres a handful of games left in the season and we aren't going to make the playoffs. the move is bringing us national attention as a player friendly franchise and also provides some goodwill. if it turns out royce can play and willing to make adjustments.. all upside and giving a 2nd round pick pro-rated salary which is peanuts in this league. thats like $7k per game to get a good look at first round talent.
 
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Gilles

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Glenn said:
Mullin is not a rookie. Surely you can't see his involvement with the Kings as a bad sign. If so, I'd like more of a clarification. The more brains involved the better I would think although the chain of command may be very murky. At the worst, it's an owner who found out very quickly he is in over his head and is doing the best he can. So far I think the results are mixed.

BTW, the musical chairs game with guards has hit the worst case scenario. Malone said he doesn't think IT will be able to play tomorrow and that Rudy might have to be a point forward as a backup to Ray. Wonderful. I think it was extremely dumb to put the team in this position and the excuse they are new at it really shouldn't be a powerful excuse anymore.

Unless the FO was very willing to leave the team vulnerable for whatever reason they had, this is not a sign of a well managed team.
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This sounds like a job for Royce White.
 
Glenn

Glenn

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Gilles said:
This sounds like a job for Royce White.
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I thought of this. Somebody would have to bring the ball up court but he IS a distributor. He seems to live to distribute. I think though that the book has already been closed on White much as it was with Orlando Johnson when we signed him to a 2nd 10 day and never used him. I don't know if we are active just to prove the fans we are active or if there is any serious pursuit of talent.

To be on thread, Tyreke never got a fair shake here. In retrospect, the FO may have handled this differently as they seem to be collecting athletes and no one could argue about Tyreke's athleticism. Our team has become quite athletic. Don't know why Reke wouldn't fit into that somehow. Some people might wonder why the FO would take on the bloated salary of Gay and bypass Tyreke but I think the number of years involved may have had something to do with it. I always had wished to see how Tyreke would function with Cuz with a competent coach and never got the chance. I think a lot of blame was placed on Tyreke that he didn't deserve and because of his passivity, he just went with the flow and was gone.

I wish him luck in NO. Next year maybe I'll get League Pass and watch his interaction with Davis. It is entirely possible that the Tyreke/Cuz combo could not have worked as well as a Tyreke/Davis combo in that they both needed the paint. There is little question in my mind that he would have done better with Ben (whose story has not been completed) and put IT on the bench. With all those differences in the team, we might not have ended up with Gay but who knows?

I REALLY didn't like that they let Tyreke go and money be damned. I hope I have made that clear. :) I have seen nothing from this FO that they are terribly concerned with money so to turn down signing Tyreke probably meant other powers were at play. At the worst they could have matched NO and traded him at some future point if he didn't work out with a new coach.
 
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mac

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LoungeLizard said:
11 pts, 4-13 FG, 4 reb, 4 ast, 5 TO vs. the white hot Spurs. Anyone who watched this game know if Leonard was guarding Tyreke most the night?
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Didn't watch the game, but if I were the Spurs my whole defense would be geared towards stopping Tyreke first and foremost. Who else did the Pelicans have on the floor who could hurt them on their own (i.e. unassisted)? And a good proportion of the time, the Spurs execute their primary strategy and get what they want.
 
Padrino

Padrino

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mac said:
Didn't watch the game, but if I were the Spurs my whole defense would be geared towards stopping Tyreke first and foremost. Who else did the Pelicans have on the floor who could hurt them on their own (i.e. unassisted)? And a good proportion of the time, the Spurs execute their primary strategy and get what they want.
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indeed. tyreke's been on a tear since he was named a starter, but there's simply no way was going to be able to take on the spurs by himself. according to the box score, he started alongside al-farouq aminu, greg stiemsma, alexis ajinca, and anthony morrow. that barely qualifies as an nba-caliber squad. i'm sure pop's defensive gameplan was simple: make life hell for tyreke evans, and keep him away from the rim. without anthony davis and with very little in the way of outside shooting available on the kick-out, evans was undoubtedly in no-man's land...
 
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KingMilz

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ESP47 said:
Kings fans past couple drafts "what if" team.

Drummond
Cousins
Leonard
Evans
Carter-Williams

We'd be killing it right now.
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There would be literally zero spacing on the floor aside from Lenoard. Replace Evans/MCW with players who can shoot it and that team looks good. We would basically be something like the current Pistons team just slightly smarter.
 
Kings Faithful

Kings Faithful

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I don't see much need for this thread anymore. IMO we've seen the best of Tyreke Evans. He's 5 seasons in and is putting up the same kinds of numbers he always has. He's a combo guard with an amazing ability to drive, decent defense, with off and on court vision, inconsistency from outside, and the ability to hit the occasional game winning shot from anywhere on the court. Has the ability to put up amazing numbers in some games and be flat out terrible in others, and I honestly feel that's what he will always be. To maximize his skills, the team that he is on has to be built around his talents and he just ISN'T good enough for that to be the case. Just look at this post from a Pelican's Blog earlier in the season.

Tyreke Evans is not a bad player, and he isn’t an elite player. He is a specialist who needs to be in the right environment to contribute at a high level for his team. We can say that, “if Tyreke only would develop a jump shot…” all day long, but the truth is that the best he likely get to is below average (from horrible). He has worked on his jump shot for years, and there has been only slight improvement. It is not a laziness issue; some guys are just not capable of excelling in that area. Tony Allen is one of the hardest working guys in the NBA and he has never developed consistent range, for instance.

But he doesn’t necessarily need that to be a great player or to earn his paycheck. We have seen him have an enormous impact on this team when healthy, and when he was put into lineups that complimented him. Evans has some components of his game that he still has to work on, so don’t mistake this as me saying that he is blameless for his recent struggles, but a much bigger part of the equation is figuring out how to get the most out of his current skill sets.
http://www.bourbonstreetshots.com/2014/02/08/whats-wrong-with-tyreke/
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Sound familiar?

I liked Tyreke by the way, and really wish we could have made it work. It probably would have been more trouble than it was worth however.
 
Mr. S£im Citrus

Mr. S£im Citrus

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Boy, did he need this game: he's played like hard boiled ass, lately, but he's crushing tonight! New career high; I guess we hadn't seen the best of Evans, after all.

Thirty-two of his forty-one in the second half: fifteen in the third, seventeen in the fourth, and dragged a group of D-League rejects to a win over the Thunder, in a game in which Durant and Ibaka each played 40+ minutes.
 
Big Cuz 15

Big Cuz 15

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kingwin said:
still mad we let him go...and hes playing a lot with the ball in his hands as the PG, where i thought he should have always been...keith smart and his damn "point forward"
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keith wanted him to build his off the ball skills... supposedly round him out instead of utilizing his strengths.
 
Mr. S£im Citrus

Mr. S£im Citrus

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Big Cuz 15 said:
keith wanted him to build his off the ball skills... supposedly round him out instead of utilizing his strengths.
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Apparently, instead of harnessing and cultivating the talents that could, potentially, make him great, Smart felt it was a better idea to try and make Evans into the guard equivalent of Jason Thompson.
 
Tetsujin

Tetsujin

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Mr. S£im Citrus said:
Apparently, instead of harnessing and cultivating the talents that could, potentially, make him great, Smart felt it was a better idea to try and make Evans into the guard equivalent of Jason Thompson.
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To be fair to Keith Smart (or really unfair to Reke), that's also what noted basketball genius Monty Williams has been trying to do with Tyreke for most of the season.
 
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