Trade Drummond plus something to Portland for #6 and #11 ?

[Anthony1]

Let's consider a scenario in which Drummond falls to us at No.5 overall. Let's pretend that Portland wants Drummond REAL bad. If we can somehow convince Portland that we have every intention of taking Drummond at 5, then maybe we can somehow squeeze #6 and #11 overall from them. Obviously, we are going to have to give up something in addition to Drummond....

What could we give up that wouldn't hurt us too much ?

 

[=LarryLegend=]

Let's consider a scenario in which Drummond falls to us at No.5 overall. Let's pretend that Portland wants Drummond REAL bad. If we can somehow convince Portland that we have every intention of taking Drummond at 5, then maybe we can somehow squeeze #6 and #11 overall from them. Obviously, we are going to have to give up something in addition to Drummond....

What could we give up that wouldn't hurt us too much ?

5 and Whiteside for Lamb or Rivers and Henson??

 

[Anthony1]

Portland's going to want more than Whiteside.

 

[Bricklayer]

Let's consider a scenario in which Drummond falls to us at No.5 overall. Let's pretend that Portland wants Drummond REAL bad. If we can somehow convince Portland that we have every intention of taking Drummond at 5, then maybe we can somehow squeeze #6 and #11 overall from them. Obviously, we are going to have to give up something in addition to Drummond....

What could we give up that wouldn't hurt us too much ?

I've mentioend before that the last thing this team needs is to become even younger by stacking up more picks. We need quality, not quantity.

 

[Anthony1]

I've mentioend before that the last thing this team needs is to become even younger by stacking up more picks. We need quality, not quantity.

So, you wouldn't like to see Barnes and Henson wearing Kings gear ?

 

[MassachusettsKingsFan]

I'd rather see us trade DOWN and get a player plus Henson.... Here are some half baked, 1:28 AM trade ideas.

We offer Hornets Salmons and #5 for Ariza and #10 (Henson).
We offer the Suns Salmons and #5 for Dudley and #13 (Henson or Jones).
We offer the Pistons #5 for Prince and #9 (Henson).
We offer Golden State #5 and Salmons for #9 (Henson) and Wright.
We offer Cleveland #5 and Salmons for Varajao and a future 1st (and our rights back from Hickson deal).
We offer Portland #5 for Batum.
We offer Houston #5, Hayes, Salmons, and Thornton for #14 (Henson or Jones), Lowry, Dalembert, and Patterson.

Remember ... half baked!

 

[DesertFox]

I'd rather see us trade DOWN and get a player plus Henson.... Here are some half baked, 1:28 AM trade ideas.

We offer Hornets Salmons and #5 for Ariza and #10 (Henson).
We offer the Suns Salmons and #5 for Dudley and #13 (Henson or Jones).
We offer the Pistons #5 for Prince and #9 (Henson).
We offer Golden State #5 and Salmons for #9 (Henson) and Wright.
We offer Cleveland #5 and Salmons for Varajao and a future 1st (and our rights back from Hickson deal).
We offer Portland #5 for Batum.
We offer Houston #5, Hayes, Salmons, and Thornton for #14 (Henson or Jones), Lowry, Dalembert, and Patterson.

Remember ... half baked!

I would do all of those except the Cleveland deal in a heartbeat, and they all seem reasonable. I'd like to shed filler in the Portland deal, maybe they'd take Outlaw back. I would throw in Jimmer/Whiteside/Honeycutt into any of those.

 

[twslam07]

I'd rather see us trade DOWN and get a player plus Henson.... Here are some half baked, 1:28 AM trade ideas.

We offer Hornets Salmons and #5 for Ariza and #10 (Henson).
We offer the Suns Salmons and #5 for Dudley and #13 (Henson or Jones).
We offer the Pistons #5 for Prince and #9 (Henson).
We offer Golden State #5 and Salmons for #9 (Henson) and Wright.
We offer Cleveland #5 and Salmons for Varajao and a future 1st (and our rights back from Hickson deal).
We offer Portland #5 for Batum.
We offer Houston #5, Hayes, Salmons, and Thornton for #14 (Henson or Jones), Lowry, Dalembert, and Patterson.

Remember ... half baked!

This idea was intriguing to me. Instead of taking Henson or Jones though, I would probably take Jeff Taylor to fill our SF spot. It looks like the salaries would work although Houston would be taking on 7 mil more in the deal and all 3 contracts are long. I'm not so sure Houston would do this, but for fun lets say they did.

Lowry/Thomas/Fredette
Evans/Williams/Garcia
Taylor/Outlaw/Honeycutt
Dalembert/Thompson/Patterson
Cousins/Whiteside

This would be the most likely lineup. The major problem I see with this is Lowry and Thomas. They can't function on the floor together considering their size. I don't see it working out too well. If Lowry is here, I think we would have to move Thomas. I could see a guard rotation of Lowry, Evans, and T. Williams working very well with Fredette having some spot minutes here and there. We could try and trade him for a solid SF and build some depth if we draft Taylor with the pick.

 

[MANoICE]

Trade #5 + Cisco/Hayes/Salmons + second rounder to POR for #11 and a resigned Batum. (I realize this would be one of those trades that would have to be unofficial until free agency begins and probably extreemly complicated if not impossible.)

Portland gets back-to-back picks at 5 & 6 and combo of Drummond/Barnes/Robinson & Lillard added to LA and WM builds the begining of a pretty nice core. Add three second rounders to fill in the gaps (or send two or all 3 of them to Boston for the later of their late first round picks.)

We get Batum, who's cost is softened by sending one of the above mentioned contracts to POR, and the best big at #11. They have $$ to re-sign JT or the big of our choice.

Thoughts?

 

[UK_King]

Worst case scenario is definitely Austin Rivers ending up anywhere near this team.

 

[roasthawg]

So, you wouldn't like to see Barnes and Henson wearing Kings gear ?

Dream scenario for sure!

 

[Glenn]

So, you wouldn't like to see Barnes and Henson wearing Kings gear ?

Can I pop in an opinion? I used to like Henson a lot. I watched games and pretty soon I found my eyes watching Zeller. Zeller is the better basketball player but not a fit for our team. As a matter of fact, I see Zeller as becoming a semi-major force in the NBA. His skinny brother Coby may very well be also. Anyway, Henson is skinny and I'm not so sure he will fill out. In short, he's a good shot blocker but will get shoved around.

Barnes is a shooter. He is not a creator. He is not high energy. He is not a great defender. I also question his mental toughness given the way he started his freshman year. He will be a great shooter with average and maybe better skills in the other areas. We don't need a shooter. We need a defender.

Continuing off my comments on Barnes, I think most teams at the bottom of the standings need offense. Offense is worshipped in the NBA and it is rare that the high energy defensively talented guys are picked except as an afterthought. In short, will a team that sucks blow their high pick on a defender and bypass, let us say, Beal?

We stand a chance of getting MKG or Robinson as they may fall as we are in the odd if not unique position of sucking yet not being short on offense. Cross your fingers folks.

Picked before us may very well be Davis, Beal, and Barnes. Maybe even Drummond based on his hype and NBA skills. Did I just count 4? Well, indeedy I did. We may have a choice between MKG and Robinson. I would take MKG.

To address Bricklayer's complaints about Robinson, I understand totally but we won't get Davis and Henson is definitely not BPA. I really hope Hassan will develop. He at present could be better than a totally unmotivated Drummond as to OUR needs. We are not totally impotent when it comes to shot blocking manpower. I would also wonder if we have decent trade bait to get that shot blocker even if it was Henson.

Yes, they are all young but getting an older AND respected vet is difficult for us barring a well done trade.

 

[rainmaker]

Why in gods name would you in this scenario, hold the keys to a player Por really wants, and swap him for two young, unproven players, instead of trying to lure Batum in a sign and trade? We don't need more draft picks. It's like everyone wants to be back here with a top 5 pick next year as well. if we drafted Drummond and Por really wanted him, you ask for Batum is some package, or hang up the phone!

No need to blow what's left of our cap space on 20 and 21 yr olds.

 

[JMelho]

Package the #5 to Portland with some filler players like Hayes, Jimmer, etc and get the #6 and Batum.

 

[DesertFox]

Package the #5 to Portland with some filler players like Hayes, Jimmer, etc and get the #6 and Batum.

Filler is not worth one draft slot and Batum. Maybe the pick and one of our SF's for Batum and a 2nd rounder.

 

[JMelho]

Marcus Thornton, Garcia/Salmons and the #5 for Batum, #6 and #11? Hehe

 

[ParniValjak]

Batum is a free agent and cannot be trade! The only way we can get him is sign him or wirk a sign and trade with the Blazers. Either way, nothing can happen before july 1 at the earliest!

 

[twslam07]

Batum is a free agent and cannot be trade! The only way we can get him is sign him or wirk a sign and trade with the Blazers. Either way, nothing can happen before july 1 at the earliest!

So we can't do a sign and trade and have our current picks be involved in the trade?

 

[BMiller52]

So we can't do a sign and trade and have our current picks be involved in the trade?

Yes that is what he's saying. You can't do sign and trades before July 1st, draft is in June.