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Series notes: Thomas feeling good about Kings' rebound
A competitive effort in Game 2 puts Sacramento back in the series, he says.
By Joe Davidson -- Bee Staff Writer
Published 2:15 am PDT Thursday, April 27, 2006

Kings forward Kenny Thomas likes the Kings' chances in Games 3 and 4 in Sacramento, and his ability to use his speed to make an impact.

Kenny Thomas sprained his left wrist during Tuesday's Game 2.

He doesn't know exactly when or how it happened, perhaps during another admirable effort preventing Tim Duncan from looking like All-World Duncan. But the Kings forward knows some things.

For starters, the Kings' gutty effort against the defending champs after a clunker in Game 1 reinforced his belief that this is still very much a series, never mind the 0-2 hole.

"We changed the whole series, because maybe we made (the Spurs) think we can play with them," Thomas said. "We should have won."

And the next item: There's a dire need to win Friday to avoid a monstrous 0-3 hole.

"We have to win that game," Thomas said. "We don't have any choice. We have to win our next two."

And the next item: Thomas is a bit swifter than some of the bigs guys the Spurs wheel out.

"They have two big guys who can't run with me," Thomas said as a matter of fact.

And finally, his health. Never mind the splint he wore after practice. He insists he's fine.

"Oh, I'm playin' Friday," he said with a grin, with which he exited stage left.

An eye on Ron-Ron - Ron Artest will be welcomed back into the fold Friday after his Game 2 suspension, but the Kings want the forward to play smart and not try to do too much trying to make up for lost time.

"He felt bad about what happened, and he has to stay within the flow of things," Kings coach Rick Adelman said. "That's a very legit point. He is going to want to be a factor."

Big on Bonzi - Adelman was still heaping praise on Bonzi Wells, who scored 18 of his team's first 35 points, hitting 8 of his first 9 shots, before finishing with 28 points. He did it by attacking the rim.

"He was just terrific," Adelman said.

Boo on Barry - Adelman has experienced a lot of playoff games, seen many a wild shot. But he can't recall ever seeing a corner three-pointer take the sort of cruel bounce and drop through like the one Brent Barry had against the Kings to force overtime. The coach replayed it in his mind in a relative sleepless night.

"I don't know if Brent practices that or not," Adelman cracked. "I used to be a fan of his."

On second thought - That late screen by Duncan that caught and buckled Mike Bibby while Barry dropped in the crushing three? Still bugs Adelman.

"I wasn't going to say anything (initially), but it was illegal," Adelman said. "That's supposed to be illegal. But we can say it's our fault. We should not have been in the position to get picked. That was our big mistake."

Beware of TD - Duncan hasn't exactly been the Duncan of old, the polished MVP model of previous seasons.

But still, he's pretty darned good.

"Tim Duncan is Tim Duncan," Adelman said. "He puts pressure on you no matter what. They're still averaging a lot of points."

Adelman, in a good mood, all things considered, then threw in a kicker.

"Maybe if we let him score, their team average will go down."

About the writer: The Bee's Joe Davidson can be reached at jdavidson@sacbee.com.
 
On second thought - That late screen by Duncan that caught and buckled Mike Bibby while Barry dropped in the crushing three? Still bugs Adelman.

"I wasn't going to say anything (initially), but it was illegal," Adelman said. "That's supposed to be illegal. But we can say it's our fault. We should not have been in the position to get picked. That was our big mistake."

Some of you mentioned the illegal screen right when it happened, if I remember correctly. It's a shame Mike has taken so much heat for that particular incident...
 
VF21 said:
Some of you mentioned the illegal screen right when it happened, if I remember correctly. It's a shame Mike has taken so much heat for that particular incident...

Oh, Mike screwed up. No doubt about it.

But everyone did really. Except Francisco. It's a shame any one person has taken so much heat for that particular incident when it was just a big ol' heap of mistakes.
 
^^Much better phrasing. I should have said "It's a shame Mike alone..."

Thanks, G3.

:D
 
Two things -

One) I sure as hell hope Kenny Thomas' wrist is okay. We can ill-afford to lose the hard-and-active play from 1 of the 2 frontcourt players actually playing in this series.

Two) Mike Bibby screwed up on that play. There is no doubt. That doesn't mean the refs didn't miss the call and miss a lot of other stuff last night. It sure seemed that every questionable call or no-call went the Spurs way. Maybe I'm biased ...

Just my two cents ...
 
VF21 said:
Some of you mentioned the illegal screen right when it happened, if I remember correctly. It's a shame Mike has taken so much heat for that particular incident...

That was sort of illegal... But the fact that Bibby was cheating off of Barry is absolutely his fault. That pick wouldn't have caught him that hard if he wasn't standing away from Barry... Take it as you want, but he should take the heat. That was his man, and anytime his man is THAT wide open, on a play where you can concede the two, and just NOT give up the three is ridiculous. Of all the people, he (a playoff veteran) should have known better. Barry was hot ALL night, he ws torching Bibby ALL night, Bibby was leaving him wide open ALL night, and then he leaves him WIDE open on the most important play of the game. The initial pick was legal, Bibby tried to push through, Tim isn't exactly a wall, he can't be expected not to move if being pushed... Regaurdless, there's no way that screen would be called. I wouldn't want it to be called against the Kings, nor would I want them to do it for them...
 
SacKings384 said:
That was sort of illegal... But the fact that Bibby was cheating off of Barry is absolutely his fault. That pick wouldn't have caught him that hard if he wasn't standing away from Barry... Take it as you want, but he should take the heat. That was his man, and anytime his man is THAT wide open, on a play where you can concede the two, and just NOT give up the three is ridiculous. Of all the people, he (a playoff veteran) should have known better. Barry was hot ALL night, he ws torching Bibby ALL night, Bibby was leaving him wide open ALL night, and then he leaves him WIDE open on the most important play of the game. The initial pick was legal, Bibby tried to push through, Tim isn't exactly a wall, he can't be expected not to move if being pushed... Regaurdless, there's no way that screen would be called. I wouldn't want it to be called against the Kings, nor would I want them to do it for them...

Why was Bibby in the game? As the media has written, he is by FAR, our worst perimeter defender. We should have put a better defender on the court (a big Arm Chair).
 
bigbadred00 said:
Why was Bibby in the game? As the media has written, he is by FAR, our worst perimeter defender. We should have put a better defender on the court (a big Arm Chair).

For the 1237th time...who?

The only other even remotely reasonable choice was Kenny Thomas. Not a perimeter defender at all, and highly unlikely to get through a screen. Bonzi and Artest are out. Hart, Cisco, Kevin were all already in the game. So...its Brad, Mike, Kenny, Corliss, Potapenko or Price. And the latter option -- rookie 12th man ice cold off the bench is just not something that you see done.
 
Bricklayer said:
For the 1237th time...who?

The only other even remotely reasonable choice was Kenny Thomas. Not a perimeter defender at all, and highly unlikely to get through a screen. Bonzi and Artest are out. Hart, Cisco, Kevin were all already in the game. So...its Brad, Mike, Kenny, Corliss, Potapenko or Price. And the latter option -- rookie 12th man ice cold off the bench is just not something that you see done.

I guess so, who exactly was on the court for the Spurs at the time.

TD
Manu
Parker
Barry
()?

Of those 4 I mentioned, only 2 can shoot 3s, Manu and Barry, at a consistant rate. Was Horry or Finley also on the court? If so, they had 3 people who can hit 3s.

It was a mess, not greatly helped by the suspension of Artest and Bonzi's 6 fouls.

I know your right but it's just frustrating to have to play Bibby in a situation he can't possibly succeed in.
 
bigbadred00 said:
TD
Manu
Parker
Barry
()?

...

I know your right but it's just frustrating to have to play Bibby in a situation he can't possibly succeed in.

Horry was in the game, being played by Garcia.

Bibby could have succeeded in that situation, for the record. He just didn't. It was an error. A big one, but not the only one that occured, and one that he's stepped up and acknowledged several times since the game.
 
I think to put these games in perspective, some enterprising young Kings fan ought to catelog ALL the dumb mistakes committed during each game. Then, after the game, we Monday-morning coaches can compare boneheaded mistakes are really scathe the poor sap who actually committed the worst mistake. It seems as though most of the grief is heaped on the last guy to screw up. What about the player who plays so poorly that he is not even allowed to play in the fourth quarter. Let's spread out the grief a bit. Bibby did not play his best game. He did not singlehandedly lose the game for Sacramento.
 
quick dog said:
I think to put these games in perspective, some enterprising young Kings fan ought to catelog ALL the dumb mistakes committed during each game. Then, after the game, we Monday-morning coaches can compare boneheaded mistakes are really scathe the poor sap who actually committed the worst mistake. It seems as though most of the grief is heaped on the last guy to screw up. What about the player who plays so poorly that he is not even allowed to play in the fourth quarter. Let's spread out the grief a bit. Bibby did not play his best game. He did not singlehandedly lose the game for Sacramento.

Giving up a wide open three to a guy that has been hot all game, on a shot where if they miss, you basically win the game, is not the same as a mistake in the first quarter... It's not even CLOSE... I would have prefered him to sit on the bench the whole fourth, that way he couldn't hurt the Kings. But Bibby is tough, he'll come back. But you can understand why some fans (including myself) are extremely upset considering all the circumstances...
 
SacKings384 said:
Giving up a wide open three to a guy that has been hot all game, on a shot where if they miss, you basically win the game, is not the same as a mistake in the first quarter... It's not even CLOSE... I would have prefered him to sit on the bench the whole fourth, that way he couldn't hurt the Kings. But Bibby is tough, he'll come back. But you can understand why some fans (including myself) are extremely upset considering all the circumstances...

Because you never make mistakes yourself, right?

It's over. It's done. He made a mistake. I suppose we could bench him for the rest of the series. Would that make you feel better?

This is just getting to be a little ridiculous. It's a BLEEPING game.
 
Dude, I let go of that within hours. You're still claiming to be "extremely upset."
 
I'm not walking around kicking things and depressed. But when I think about it, it makes me mad knowing that the Kings had it, and an awful (although uncharacteristic) mistake cost them the game. I don't understand how you can feel it's wrong to feel that way...
 
I guess I've been through it a lot more times. You can't keep looking back. You scream, rant, pull out your hair, and then you move on...

If not, you'll go nuts.

;)
 
Folsom Al said:
I have a GUARANTEE .....

All will be forgiven ... IF... the King's are VICTORIOUS on Friday :cool:

No, because the Kings would have been up 2-1... Then if they win the next game they would have been up 3-1... And if they win the next game they would have won the series. And if the Kings win this series that's one more game they had to play, leaving them less refreshed for the next round. Leaving them even MORE less refreshed for the next series, and it may lead to the Kings demise... ;) :D
 
VF21 said:
I guess I've been through it a lot more times. You can't keep looking back. You scream, rant, pull out your hair, and then you move on...

If not, you'll go nuts.

;)

so how do I keep Horry's shot out of my dreams ?
 
SacKings384 said:
No, because the Kings would have been up 2-1... Then if they win the next game they would have been up 3-1... And if they win the next game they would have won the series. And if the Kings win this series that's one more game they had to play, leaving them less refreshed for the next round. Leaving them even MORE less refreshed for the next series, and it may lead to the Kings demise... ;) :D

WOW - you are one bitter individual .. regardless of the ;) and the :D

I retract my statment - ALL WILL BE FORGIVEN except by ONE individual - SacKings384 (no pleasing this person)

Let me offer some words of SOOTHING PEACE - the King's can only get back in this series ONE GAME AT A TIME .. .

... and it starts Friday
 
Bricklayer said:
For the 1237th time...who?

The only other even remotely reasonable choice was Kenny Thomas. Not a perimeter defender at all, and highly unlikely to get through a screen. Bonzi and Artest are out. Hart, Cisco, Kevin were all already in the game. So...its Brad, Mike, Kenny, Corliss, Potapenko or Price. And the latter option -- rookie 12th man ice cold off the bench is just not something that you see done.

maybe that would of given Bibby a little wake up call putting in Price, almost seems like somehting popovich would do.;)
 
its whatever... bibby screwed up, duncan fouled bibby and atleast it wasnt horry that hit the shot....
 
Folsom Al said:
WOW - you are one bitter individual .. regardless of the ;) and the :D

I retract my statment - ALL WILL BE FORGIVEN except by ONE individual - SacKings384 (no pleasing this person)

Let me offer some words of SOOTHING PEACE - the King's can only get back in this series ONE GAME AT A TIME .. .

... and it starts Friday

Wow... If you can't see the sarcasm in the post I don't know what to do for you...
 
VF21 said:
If I ever find a way, I'll be sure and share it...

;)
When we win this series, because Horry tips a rebound out to Bibby, who makes the game winning 3.........or Bibby drives the lane, kicks out to Artest, who is freed up by a nasty Brad Miller screen and Ron makes the game winning shot and Bob can only stand there lookingf crushed........Ok, it's not going to happen, but I can dream of it for a couple more games.;)
 
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kennadog said:
When we win this series, because Horry tips a rebound out to Bibby, who makes the game winning 3.........Ok, it's not going to happen, but I can dream of it for a couple more games.;)

And as Horry flies by to block it, he collides with Barry and both are out for the 06-07 season ;)
 
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