What rating (specialty) is he? How quickly did he make E5?
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Prophetess
Gallifrayain
UGH! Not sure. Linguistics, maybe? Last Nov, he was a PO 3rd class, a little over a year from his start day, maybe? I'm not positive. I get lost with time. He was put on a ship in Sept., but he was in training last year around this time. He did lots of classes. He's incredibly smart and driven. As of Dec 5th: he's CTT2(SW)
I asked because not all ratings in the Navy promote at the same frequency; advancing to E5 first time up as a Crypto Tech is impressive; not as impressive as advancing first time up as a Boatswain's Mate, or a Hospital Corpsman, but impressive, nonetheless (I was neither, in case you think I was throwing shade. I wasn't; I also served in one of those "quick advancement" ratings). That's actually half the reason why I got out of the Navy: I advanced to E6 very quickly, which is as high up as you can go on technical knowledge alone. To put on khakis, you have to be at least a little political, and I wasn't; the thought of spending thirteen years in the same paygrade did not appeal to me. But, yeah, propers to your nephew for putting on Second: Crypto Tech is a tough rate to get into. To be a CT, you not only have to score in, like, the ninety-seventh percentile on the ASVAB, you also have to be able to get a TS clearance, so it sounds like your nephew's got a lot going for him.
Also, I don't want to be that guy, but ESWS isn't a big deal anymore. It used to be, once upon a time, back when only the most highly motivated sailors would get surface warfare qualified, but it hasn't been that way in nearly two decades. In fact, getting ESWS qualified is one of the prerequisites for eligibility for advancement. If your nephew is stationed on a ship, and wasn't ESWS qualified, they wouldn't even have allowed him to take the exam.
Not that that takes anything away from his achievement. I still had to take the E5 exam twice before I made it, and I'm a pretty smart guy, if I do say so, myself.
Also, I don't want to be that guy, but ESWS isn't a big deal anymore. It used to be, once upon a time, back when only the most highly motivated sailors would get surface warfare qualified, but it hasn't been that way in nearly two decades. In fact, getting ESWS qualified is one of the prerequisites for eligibility for advancement. If your nephew is stationed on a ship, and wasn't ESWS qualified, they wouldn't even have allowed him to take the exam.
Not that that takes anything away from his achievement. I still had to take the E5 exam twice before I made it, and I'm a pretty smart guy, if I do say so, myself.
Prophetess
Gallifrayain
You've actually just clarified a couple of things for me, so thanks for that. He just recently got to drive the ship. He was excited and I'm incredibly happy for him. He's very excited and motivated and so happy.
So, after two years, I finally got around to listening to Jon B's most recent album. It was very depressing. I can't believe that a guy who I once considered to be one of my Top 5 favorite artists (and whose debut album remains my favorite album of all time) has fallen off so precipitously.
Have you ever heard of an artist that released 5+ albums over 20 years, who peaked with the first one?
Have you ever heard of an artist that released 5+ albums over 20 years, who peaked with the first one?
Prophetess
Gallifrayain
I have an interview in 7 days, I haven't interviewed in about 9 years. I'm ridiculously nervous.
B.O.B.
Prospect
As a retired Chief Petty Officer, I'll tell you that it isn't political at all - you have to EARN your anchors - that's what I did. Trust me, I didn't ride anybody's coattails, and my evals will prove that - I was not a 4.0 sailor - never was. I served in recruiting and every different theater of the Navy: Recruiting, Special Warfare, Aviation, and Surface. The only place I didn't serve was FMF, Seabees, or Subs. But yes, I can see where younger sailors would see that getting promoted is about politics.
But let me be fair and 100% honest, there are politics once you've achieved the rank of Chief Petty Officer, you'll just never see it outside of the Mess or the CPOA. I stood up to politics, but wasn't mature enough to handle some of the blowback and that certainly cost me Senior Chief and potentially Master Chief.
Very respectfully, a retired YNC(SW/AW).
I didn't mean to imply that chief petty officers don't earn their anchors, but I may have to push back a little bit.
Granted, I don't have any first hand experience with becoming a chief, but I wasn't just speaking of my own experience. I'm actually third generation military: I got out before I was actually eligible for chief, my dad retired as a first class, my biological father made chief, and chose get out before he was eligible to retire, and my mom was a chief, who was medically discharged. I've had conversations with each of them, in groups and separately, and I think it would be fair to say that they don't necessarily have the same perspective about the process being apolitical.
With that said, I will stipulate that, based on my, admittedly, limited experience with Yeomen, I have the impression that a Radioman's sense of 'politics' probably differs greatly from a Yeoman. My aunt (father's sister), who retired as a YNCS, also seems to feel as though the process was not particularly political, FWIW. She and my mom (HMC) do not get along much.
Granted, I don't have any first hand experience with becoming a chief, but I wasn't just speaking of my own experience. I'm actually third generation military: I got out before I was actually eligible for chief, my dad retired as a first class, my biological father made chief, and chose get out before he was eligible to retire, and my mom was a chief, who was medically discharged. I've had conversations with each of them, in groups and separately, and I think it would be fair to say that they don't necessarily have the same perspective about the process being apolitical.
With that said, I will stipulate that, based on my, admittedly, limited experience with Yeomen, I have the impression that a Radioman's sense of 'politics' probably differs greatly from a Yeoman. My aunt (father's sister), who retired as a YNCS, also seems to feel as though the process was not particularly political, FWIW. She and my mom (HMC) do not get along much.
B.O.B.
Prospect
Everybody is going to have a different perspective. I would be a fool to say that there is ZERO politics, particularly when it comes to evaluations. I guess from my own perspective, the politics is FAR more pervasive within the CPO Mess, but again that's another story.
I'll have to take your word for it on that, Chief. I knew early that I didn't have what it takes to put on khakis. That's why I got out at my ten-year mark, even though I made first in less than eight years; I wasn't exactly the most well-rounded sailor in the fleet. I was in the 99th percentile as a technician, if I do say so myself, but I hardly had the sharpest military bearing, and I may not have been the most professional sailor in the world.
Glenn
Hall of Famer
You definitely are more intelligent than the few corpsmen I have had contact with. I will take your word for the latter comments. I think the Navy lost a good man but given your particular circumstances, personal and professional, I understand why the Navy might not have been a career for you.
You know what's really ****ed up? I got out, in part, so that I could spend more time with my son. And I haven't lived within six hundred miles of him, in nearly four years.
Glenn
Hall of Famer
That's a shame. I suspected it was part of the reason.
So, I have recently taken to listening to Deuce and Jason Ross at work. I take a good deal of personal satisfaction in the fact that tuning into their show this afternoon (16:10 my time) was the first time I found out who won the college football national championship. And, if I had chosen not to listen to the show, I could have easily gone, at least until the Kings game, without finding out.
One thing that still has me vexed, though: what's the deal with always referring to the young woman as 'TV's Morgan Reagan'? Is that some sort of satire, like they're making fun of the people who are always referred to as "the Hall of Famer" such and such.
One thing that still has me vexed, though: what's the deal with always referring to the young woman as 'TV's Morgan Reagan'? Is that some sort of satire, like they're making fun of the people who are always referred to as "the Hall of Famer" such and such.
I don't get it. If it's not meant to be satiric, why do they feel like they need to do it more than once an hour? Is there more than one Morgan Ragan on the radio in Sacramento?
It's a Sacramento thing, I guess. And an honorific. Or totally beyond rational explanation. Does anyone ever tell you that besides being an "*******" you also ask way too many questions?
You know, I may have been told that once or twice.
The reason I asked is because I'm so accustomed to watching WNBA games and hearing Nancy Lieberman, Rebecca Lobo and Ann Meyers-Dreysdale referred to as "The Hall of Famer..." whenever their names are mentioned by the play-by-play person, no matter how many times it's been said already, during the course of the broadcast. I also hear it in NBA games a lot: basically, whenever Bill Walton is doing a game. Also, Kevin Harlan is notorious for doing it. I just wanted to know if they were doing it to mock play-by-play announcers who list off their broadcast partners' credentials at every opportunity?
The reason I asked is because I'm so accustomed to watching WNBA games and hearing Nancy Lieberman, Rebecca Lobo and Ann Meyers-Dreysdale referred to as "The Hall of Famer..." whenever their names are mentioned by the play-by-play person, no matter how many times it's been said already, during the course of the broadcast. I also hear it in NBA games a lot: basically, whenever Bill Walton is doing a game. Also, Kevin Harlan is notorious for doing it. I just wanted to know if they were doing it to mock play-by-play announcers who list off their broadcast partners' credentials at every opportunity?
You know, I may have been told that once or twice.
The reason I asked is because I'm so accustomed to watching WNBA games and hearing Nancy Lieberman, Rebecca Lobo and Ann Meyers-Dreysdale referred to as "The Hall of Famer..." whenever their names are mentioned by the play-by-play person, no matter how many times it's been said already, during the course of the broadcast. I also hear it in NBA games a lot: basically, whenever Bill Walton is doing a game. Also, Kevin Harlan is notorious for doing it. I just wanted to know if they were doing it to mock play-by-play announcers who list off their broadcast partners' credentials at every opportunity?
They're nowhere near that level.
fansinceday1
Starter
BT3 when I got out in 93.
Can't believe how much the NAVY has changed since I was out at sea.
Even though I find the commercial annoying as hell, I'd just like to say... Salt 'N' Pepa: still getting it done!
I tried that, once. Around March of 2000. I still haven't lived down the shame. To this day, I can't listen to "Doo Wop (That Thing)" by Lauryn Hill without wanting to crawl into a hole in the ground.
Speaking of toast... all this talk about "caping up" has caused me to recall that Powdered Toast Man did not wear a cape.
Edna Mode would approve.
Edna Mode would approve.
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