The trading of Domantas Sabonis.

#92
I’ve actually seen his reactions to other players and wondered if Domas grates on his teammates nerves.
Yes, he plays hard but I think there’s an issue there that’s just now being shed some light on.
I posted in another thread of him quitting on Brown. I personally have a major problem with it but I’m just a fan. I actually prefer him to be traded.

I know a lot of forum members here soured on Brown which is fine. But across the league there were and are repercussions with the the dismissal. No all-star selection for Domas because of his dislike of Brown. I fully believe that Domas missed out because of his part in the Brown firing. Send Domas packing for assets
Sad, but a predictable arrival for some fans to be here. Dude's only busted his ass for 3 years and since there aren't any scapegoats left (well,him and Monte), better run him out of town too.
 

dude12

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#93
Sad, but a predictable arrival for some fans to be here. Dude's only busted his ass for 3 years and since there aren't any scapegoats left (well,him and Monte), better run him out of town too.
Welp, not sure any of it isn’t true though. Taylor Jenkins just got dumped and his teams played hard too. But if the star or stars don’t like something about the coach or schemes, the head coach is always the one to go. This situation is probably no different.
I can tell you from listening to the talking heads, there is absolutely going to be fallout from how Mike Brown was handled.
If Sac doesn’t hire DC, then it’s going to be a retread or a guy looking for his first chance.
Also fairly certain that Domas won’t be chosen as an all-star reserve any time soon
 

pdxKingsFan

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#94
I just don't know what to believe with Domas because there were rumors he's the one that wanted Brown gone (certainly spread by a player who is no longer here's camp) and now the same camp has spread the rumor that Domas wants out because how Brown was handled has created uncertainty.

Now I do not think him and Zach have paired well and we need to get rid of DDR if he won't go to the bench.

My faith in Doug is shaken a bit although I am sure he is being forced to try to make the three starting SGs when they are available. I feel like my vacation last week was a blessing because I am certainly not interested in tanking to keep our pick and then having that dangle over whoever is the GM's head for another year. Also I think consensus is this draft isn't as great as it was billed and it's just the opposite of last draft which had no clear top pick, while this one seems to have picks 1 and 2 locked.

I am fine if we throw in the towel after next season if we still suck this bad, but I think if we identify a starting PG and solve the mess Monk/Zach/Deebo somehow will be ok.
 

SacTownKid

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I feel like this is burying the lede a bit (the fact Domas has suffered two different moderately severe injuries since the trade)
This year it was a different gameplan and that has to be part of what Domas wants clarification on. This is the fewest assists per game Domas has averaged since the 15 games after he was traded to the Kings. The team going more pick and roll saw him having an uptick in his scoring but he was less involved as a lead playmaker as a result. In January Domas looked to be coming back around as the focus under Christie but then the trades clearly took away the ability for him to really know where to put the ball. From February on Domas is averaging the least amount of assists since he's been a King.
 
#99
From Zion to Embiid, I see a patern here, you get commision for medical treatments? (just joking of course)
Just don’t see the ownership letting us tank the right way and when you got big names like Embiid out there the GM will be pressured to make a move. Vevik eyed sorry ass Lavine for a couple years now his eyes will light up seeing Embiid is available

With Zion atleast he can play and it’s not medically proven he cant
 
Just don’t see the ownership letting us tank the right way and when you got big names like Embiid out there the GM will be pressured to make a move. Vevik eyed sorry ass Lavine for a couple years now his eyes will light up seeing Embiid is available

With Zion atleast he can play and it’s not medically proven he cant
The question is value. If they are being given away LaVine style? Sure. I would be surprised if Vivek would risk it all for two even bigger risks potentially.
 
We had an opportunity to do something with Domas and we sort of did - i.e., the beam team - we also sort of didn't - i.e., running it back.

He's great. Better than anyone we have had on the team in ages. But he shouldn't be untouchable.
 
If Memphis flops in the playoffs which is what I expect offer Sabonis/filler for Bane/filler. JJJ/Morrant/Sabonis fits well and they got a ton of up and coming wings.

Bane is a great fit with Keegan and gives you a nice building base until you got rid of LaVine, it also mean you don't have to overpay Ellis.
 

Capt. Factorial

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If Memphis flops in the playoffs which is what I expect offer Sabonis/filler for Bane/filler. JJJ/Morrant/Sabonis fits well and they got a ton of up and coming wings.

Bane is a great fit with Keegan and gives you a nice building base until you got rid of LaVine, it also mean you don't have to overpay Ellis.
And then we could run out a starting lineup with four SGs and a big wing, just like a college team!
 
If Memphis flops in the playoffs which is what I expect offer Sabonis/filler for Bane/filler. JJJ/Morrant/Sabonis fits well and they got a ton of up and coming wings.

Bane is a great fit with Keegan and gives you a nice building base until you got rid of LaVine, it also mean you don't have to overpay Ellis.
Bane/Ellis/Keegan would fit if we get a defensive center and another big wing to start next to Keegan
 
I hadn't been to a game in awhile. I was watching pretty intently last night on sets and defensive scheme. I get the defensive scheme is trying to cause chaos because we don't have the size. But the offense is loathsome. I know Christie "simplified" the offense, but it has just turned into dribble dribble dribble ISO jumper. Domas has been completely negated. Last night, he was floating in the dunkers spot and just not getting the ball. I know part of that is, we don't have anyone who can make the pass. Lavine is a below average passer, Keon is a way below average passer and Carter is TBD. I thin Deebo is a good, passer, just not a very willing passer as he is always looking for a bucket.

Drastic changes need to be made with all this. I don't blame Domas for wanting an answer.
 
I hadn't been to a game in awhile. I was watching pretty intently last night on sets and defensive scheme. I get the defensive scheme is trying to cause chaos because we don't have the size. But the offense is loathsome. I know Christie "simplified" the offense, but it has just turned into dribble dribble dribble ISO jumper. Domas has been completely negated. Last night, he was floating in the dunkers spot and just not getting the ball. I know part of that is, we don't have anyone who can make the pass. Lavine is a below average passer, Keon is a way below average passer and Carter is TBD. I thin Deebo is a good, passer, just not a very willing passer as he is always looking for a bucket.

Drastic changes need to be made with all this. I don't blame Domas for wanting an answer.
LaVine is a big part of the problem there. He'd run a pick with Domas and the double would immediately come at him. Instead of hitting Domas back for an easy wide open attempt, LaVine would just hold on to the ball and reset. I know he was just afraid of turning the ball over but his lack of court vision and decision making is the reason why he's that guy that puts up numbers and struggles to win instead of the guy that does both.

It sounds crazy when the guy is coming off an 11 assist game or whatever it was but that's just basically LaVine's game in a nutshell.
 

pdxKingsFan

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LaVine is a big part of the problem there. He'd run a pick with Domas and the double would immediately come at him. Instead of hitting Domas back for an easy wide open attempt, LaVine would just hold on to the ball and reset. I know he was just afraid of turning the ball over but his lack of court vision and decision making is the reason why he's that guy that puts up numbers and struggles to win instead of the guy that does both.

It sounds crazy when the guy is coming off an 11 assist game or whatever it was but that's just basically LaVine's game in a nutshell.
Their games aren't really compatible. Maybe the right coach can fix it, I don't think that is Doug - though it could simply be an assistant who is an X&O wizard. But they basically both demand to be the hub and have stated this publicly.
 
I hadn't been to a game in awhile. I was watching pretty intently last night on sets and defensive scheme. I get the defensive scheme is trying to cause chaos because we don't have the size. But the offense is loathsome. I know Christie "simplified" the offense, but it has just turned into dribble dribble dribble ISO jumper. Domas has been completely negated. Last night, he was floating in the dunkers spot and just not getting the ball. I know part of that is, we don't have anyone who can make the pass. Lavine is a below average passer, Keon is a way below average passer and Carter is TBD. I thin Deebo is a good, passer, just not a very willing passer as he is always looking for a bucket.

Drastic changes need to be made with all this. I don't blame Domas for wanting an answer.
Both are pretty good ball handlers though. This summer better be the summer league of Devin Carter. He's not a pass first pick and roll player but in college he was ELITE out of pick and roll his last year. If that pick and roll game transfers he's going to be stud on both ends. Keons pick and roll game looked a lot better last year but him being more of a secondary ball handler and spot shooter is perfect to put next to LaVine, Carter, and Monk.
 
LaVine is a big part of the problem there. He'd run a pick with Domas and the double would immediately come at him. Instead of hitting Domas back for an easy wide open attempt, LaVine would just hold on to the ball and reset. I know he was just afraid of turning the ball over but his lack of court vision and decision making is the reason why he's that guy that puts up numbers and struggles to win instead of the guy that does both.

It sounds crazy when the guy is coming off an 11 assist game or whatever it was but that's just basically LaVine's game in a nutshell.
Fox was the same way. That can be worked out, but the fact is the best option is still likely LaVine being aggressive out of that position. LaVine can get you 25 a night, Domas is far more selective even if the production gets there some nights. On paper LaVine shouldn't be a bad fit with Domas if they can get a two man game down. Look at Monk, it took awhile but a lot of Monks passing is literally him being confident that even when he throws a horrendous pass Domas can wrangle it in.