The Official NBA Draft Day Thread 2014 Edition
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I don't think they want him either. But what's a sign and trade realistically going to get you? Better than IT? They need a better fit than IT, but he's so far beyond mccallum at this point. People thinking ray can start are a bit delusional.
I don't understand the transparency of the management group. Wise people stopped listening. Don't buy the 6 million line.
I don't understand the transparency of the management group. Wise people stopped listening. Don't buy the 6 million line.
When Stauskas went at 8 and Payton went at 10 my thought was that Philly wanted a shooter in the backcourt with MCW who could space the floor for Noel and Embiid. I was waiting to hear that the Kings were getting Stauskas and a pair of 2nd rounders.
It made sense, Charlotte wanted a shooter so Philly would conceivably have to leapfrog them to make sure they got Nik. When word was that Payton was on the move I was pretty sure I was right only to be disappointed a bit later.
Because if the King's FO doesn't see IT as the future starter and will only retain him at $6 million or less then they obviously need a plan for a starting PG.
I would have loved Payton AND Stauskas with IT as a sixth man. It's a hell of a lot better than the very real possibility of McCallum and either McLemore it Stauskas with the other off the bench.
PDA & co chose to try and retool on the fly instead of rebuild and so now the team has no caproom or other real assets to go get another PG if Thomas does leave.
Vivek thinks he hired a GM that can think four moves ahead. One of them better be getting a quality starting PG because I thinks odds are good that IT gets offered more than $6 million per.
It made sense, Charlotte wanted a shooter so Philly would conceivably have to leapfrog them to make sure they got Nik. When word was that Payton was on the move I was pretty sure I was right only to be disappointed a bit later.
Because if the King's FO doesn't see IT as the future starter and will only retain him at $6 million or less then they obviously need a plan for a starting PG.
I would have loved Payton AND Stauskas with IT as a sixth man. It's a hell of a lot better than the very real possibility of McCallum and either McLemore it Stauskas with the other off the bench.
PDA & co chose to try and retool on the fly instead of rebuild and so now the team has no caproom or other real assets to go get another PG if Thomas does leave.
Vivek thinks he hired a GM that can think four moves ahead. One of them better be getting a quality starting PG because I thinks odds are good that IT gets offered more than $6 million per.
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There are 29 other teams who might potentially have interest. We cannot narrow it down to teams that fit certain criteria. Last year we did the same think with Tyreke and out of nowhere came the Pelicans with a 4 year $48 million offer.
Someone will be interested in IT. We just need to see how much interest there is and what is the price set by the market.
Someone will be interested in IT. We just need to see how much interest there is and what is the price set by the market.
One thing is for certain at this stage. IT will not agree to be a sixth man. He is looking for starter money and a starting spot. If the FO has any doubts about him leading the team, then he isn't the PG that this team needs. I still think we sign and trade him, unless there is zero interest in him and we can get him for cheap.
You have a point, but I think IT's ego will only allow him to talk with teams that he knows he will start on. I truly think he is that obsessed with it. Someone had a good post earlier, saying that their only problem with IT is not his height, but his lack of defense and his me first mentality. I have to agree with that 100%. Maybe if the market dictates that he will not get paid what he wants, he might come down to earth, but as of right now his head is in the clouds.
Part fo the plan would have to be getting something useful back in an IT sign and trade. They choked that with Reke, gave away the valuable piece to Portland, took on an overrated one. But for a team with as few valuable assets, I would think an Isaiah sign and trade might actually be an important part of further retooling strategy.
You've got:
Cousins/?
?/Evans/Acy
Gay/?
Stauskas/?
?/McCallum
then assets, some almost more negative than positive:
JT
Landry
Ben
IT sign and trade
Williams (ender)
Terry (ender)
MLE
using every bit of that you might still be able to restructure if not actually greatly improve the roster. But I don't think we can, or are, intending to let any of it walk away for free.
You've got:
Cousins/?
?/Evans/Acy
Gay/?
Stauskas/?
?/McCallum
then assets, some almost more negative than positive:
JT
Landry
Ben
IT sign and trade
Williams (ender)
Terry (ender)
MLE
using every bit of that you might still be able to restructure if not actually greatly improve the roster. But I don't think we can, or are, intending to let any of it walk away for free.
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An IT sign and trade probably leaves this team with less overall talent than before this draft. How did the Tyreke for Vasquez trade work out? The best option is to sign him for a reasonable amount. The Kings took Stauskas because of his outside shot and playmaking ability, similar skills to Thomas. The Kings want multiple guys with those skills, so unless they totally luck out with the team that Thomas goes to in a sign and trade, they probably end up with no net gain in those areas.
This was the first sign that PDA has no desire to have a traditional front court. Most of us missed this tell, including myself. At this point, if we pick up a defensive big to pair with Cuz, I'd be pleasantly surprised. But I don't expect it. They want a athletes and shooters. Big bodies is not a high priority.
Ok, so if IT gets an 8 mil offer from a team with cap room, I would suggest that
A: We do a sign and trade for a defensive PF
B: We match the 8 mil so we dont loose him for -0-, Then Trade him this summer
or Before the trade deadline for a defensive PF
C: We do a trade of JT/Landry and Terry for a starting PG
Just dont let him go for nothing!!!!!!!!!
A: We do a sign and trade for a defensive PF
B: We match the 8 mil so we dont loose him for -0-, Then Trade him this summer
or Before the trade deadline for a defensive PF
C: We do a trade of JT/Landry and Terry for a starting PG
Just dont let him go for nothing!!!!!!!!!
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