The New CBA Details

PixelPusher said:
A lot of "H & R Block" stuff in that article, but this caught me eye...



I wonder if RealGM has updated it's software yet...:D

I assume that'll come on July 1st, when it takes effect, and they have to drop free agents from the rosters. I for one, can't wait for that day :p
 
funkykingston said:
I really like the Gilbert Arenas rule. Teams shouldn't become farm teams for other squads just because they draft well in the second round and are over the cap.

Great idea, bad execution of it.

Why penalize the player by reducing his salary maximum because the team is over the cap?

Sticking with the given example, Gilbert Arenas got paid over $9 million last year. (I can't believe that I'm about to argue that players should get paid more.) Under the new CBA, that amount would have been cut almost in half. That sucks for the player that earned a big contract.

I think that reducing Bird rights to two years would have resolved the problem effectively, especially if you drafted the player. That way the Warriors would have been able to match the Warriors offer on Arenas, and everybody is happy (expect the Wizards, but they shouldn't have first dibs on a player that another team drafted).

Like I said, I like the fact that something was done about the rule, but it penalizes the player, which is better than penalizing the team that drafted well in the second round, but still not how it should be.
 
Superman said:
Why penalize the player by reducing his salary maximum because the team is over the cap?
I may have read it wrong, but I don't think it penalizes the player. Arenas would have gotten the same offer from Washington, but the Warriors would have been allowed to match it. It's just that they cannot offer that much in the beginning. As long as another team makes the offer, then in the end its the same size salary.
 
uolj said:
I may have read it wrong, but I don't think it penalizes the player. Arenas would have gotten the same offer from Washington, but the Warriors would have been allowed to match it. It's just that they cannot offer that much in the beginning. As long as another team makes the offer, then in the end its the same size salary.

It's weird. The total amount of the contract would have been the same (possibly), but the first year of the contract would have only been for the MLE, which is still about half of what he wound up making.
 
I read it as they have to offer him a contract with the MLE the first year in order to retain the right to match, but then they can match any normal contract regardless of its first year amount.
 
uolj said:
I read it as they have to offer him a contract with the MLE the first year in order to retain the right to match, but then they can match any normal contract regardless of its first year amount.

Same here. It is basically a qualifying offer....
 
I don't like the D-league at all. I'm not much of a college fan, but raising the age limit without the D league would be a much better idea. The league is going to turn into a bunch of wanna-bes trying to show each other up and won't develop any real skills, and it will also have a huge amount of young guys without the talent to play pro playing in the d-league rather than college, where they should be. If a guy is good enough, a year in college will allow him to develop skills (on a free ride, most likely) and still get the fat paycheck, just a year later. The only good I can see in it is the ability to send players back down when they aren't playing well (Darko), but it shouldn't be a funnel from high school to college. I don't know the specifics of baseball minors, but it seems much better- college, minors, pros. Obviously, some guys would skip this (as they will in the NBA) but the NBA system seems to slanted towards the same guys getting to the NBA as quick as possible.
 
captain bill said:
I don't like the D-league at all. I'm not much of a college fan, but raising the age limit without the D league would be a much better idea. The league is going to turn into a bunch of wanna-bes trying to show each other up and won't develop any real skills, and it will also have a huge amount of young guys without the talent to play pro playing in the d-league rather than college, where they should be. If a guy is good enough, a year in college will allow him to develop skills (on a free ride, most likely) and still get the fat paycheck, just a year later. The only good I can see in it is the ability to send players back down when they aren't playing well (Darko), but it shouldn't be a funnel from high school to college. I don't know the specifics of baseball minors, but it seems much better- college, minors, pros. Obviously, some guys would skip this (as they will in the NBA) but the NBA system seems to slanted towards the same guys getting to the NBA as quick as possible.

Baseball minors are the same way -- totally drain all available talent from college. Just been doing it since before there really was college ball I would imagine, so nobody thinks twice about it. Then again you rarely hear muhc about college baseball, and its not a coincidence.
 
but won't increasing the minimum amount of players on a roster also increase the total payroll of a team thereby erasing the benefits of an increased salary cap?
 
acisking said:
but won't increasing the minimum amount of players on a roster also increase the total payroll of a team thereby erasing the benefits of an increased salary cap?

I'm sure most of thsoe extra guys will be minimum wage players earing $360,000 or whatever, and most teams, ouselves included, were already carrying one or two extra "injured" guys ala Erik Daniels as it was. So probably only a minor salary cap hit.