Suns @ Kings Game Thread
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Ray Allen34
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NanaKing said:
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they had no problem destroying us with basically a full team
very impressed with diaw and jones
Ray Allen34
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Yoda said:
And why is that? we brought back most of our core. Losing AD will hurt but bringing back an improved Wilkins and the improvements of Flip Murray will replace his numbers. Kings added some nice pieces but also lost some as well. Seems to me we are both in the same boat.
Ray Allen34 said:
Yeah, but Seattle were doing a lot of testing from what I saw... and were without 2 or 3 bigs. Pre-season anyways.
Kings lost an (sadly) injury prone, one-year contract, older B-Jax. Mobley was a good short-term replacement, but couldn't quite fit in, and losing him doesn't hurt at all. Ostertag had a few flashes of solid the whole season, basically nothing. Songaila wouldn't of been able to get much PT with SAR/KT/Corliss/Skinner, and Evans is probably the most meaningful loss due to what he did for us, which was great. But he'll do what he did for the Kings for Pistons, with maybe a bit more PT. He just wanted a bit too much money in the end. The positive to losing Mo is that K-Mart and Garcia can evolve more.
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Yoda
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1) The Kings underacheived last year in the PORay Allen34 said:
2) Seattle lost AD, which should really hurt
3) McMillian was huge with regard to their success.
Two teams going in two different directions, so unless it is a really big boat, they are not in the same boat.
Are the Sonics a PO team? I dont think so.
Ray Allen34
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Yoda said:
Kings underacheived? no..they were just better by a better team and as the 4-1 series said. It wasn't really that close
already mentioned losing AD hurts but we have other guys who will improve to replace him
agree on Nate
and yes the sonics should still be a playoff team, still have two all-stars, a very promising young PG and a great bench.
we may not be as good as last year but we are still at the same level of talent as the kings and have just as good a chance at having a better record.
anyway back to the topic
this is about suns and kings
sorry VF
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Sonics at same level of talent as the Kings? I don't think so...
Perhaps we could start a different thread to debate this in more detail so as not to totally derail this one?
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The game tonight should be interesting. The Kings facing the Suns with Amare would have had an entirely different game plan going in; now, without the talents of Amare in the 4, I suspect they'll have much more freedom than they would have had otherwise. I'm actually thinking Peja might have a very good game.
Perhaps we could start a different thread to debate this in more detail so as not to totally derail this one?
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The game tonight should be interesting. The Kings facing the Suns with Amare would have had an entirely different game plan going in; now, without the talents of Amare in the 4, I suspect they'll have much more freedom than they would have had otherwise. I'm actually thinking Peja might have a very good game.
allrightythen
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So do they move Marion to the 4 like they did last year, or do they stick someone else in for Amare? That probably has a large effect on the style of play they employ. With Marion at the four it opens things up a little more offensively but is an obvious mismatch on the other end.
BobbyJ_for3!
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Yeah, Marion should be at 4. Well, SI had him at the 4 and James Jones in at SF, which doesnt sound to bad to me.
They still will deffinetly not be as good as last year...we were already saying this before Amare went down, becasue of the loss of Johnson and Richardson. Sure, they may have been able to do almost as well when Amare was in, but without Amare they are just another quality team in a quality conference.
On paper, the Kings deff have an edge, seeing as that we have 5 players many acknowledge as All-Star Caliber and they have 3 tops, along with two mostly unproven younger players. Plus, we have a stronger bench, most deffinetly.
They still will deffinetly not be as good as last year...we were already saying this before Amare went down, becasue of the loss of Johnson and Richardson. Sure, they may have been able to do almost as well when Amare was in, but without Amare they are just another quality team in a quality conference.
On paper, the Kings deff have an edge, seeing as that we have 5 players many acknowledge as All-Star Caliber and they have 3 tops, along with two mostly unproven younger players. Plus, we have a stronger bench, most deffinetly.
Marion will be at the four again. They've been using a Nash/Bell/Jones/Marion/KT line-up all pre-season, which also ties into their "tons of scoring still" pledge.
I was surprised they aren't going with a Nash/Bell/Marion/KT/Burke (who isn't a bad big, seriously) for their regular line-up, to still have some size in there for the long Amare loss. But a small, active line-up can work..
I was surprised they aren't going with a Nash/Bell/Marion/KT/Burke (who isn't a bad big, seriously) for their regular line-up, to still have some size in there for the long Amare loss. But a small, active line-up can work..
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Bricklayer
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Burke really can't play -- I remember him from his first stint in the NBA. Unathletic, can't rebound, block shots, or much of anything else. He had one strong month back there as I recall, and then quickly faded right out of the league. Was very surprised to see him back. Truly bargain basement shopping for the Suns.
Suns are much better off trying to semi-duplicate their balance of last year until Amare gets back. But its a sore sore hit. Even if you assume for a moment that Raja and James could match the numbers of JJ and Q, going from Amare to Kurt is about a 10-15pt hit a game.
Ah, I read different of Burke, and he supposedly improved (obviously doesn't say here):
http://www.hoopshype.com/players/pat_burke.htm
So, that could be a "that was then" thing... who knows, heh. I've just said him a couple times when talking about the Suns line-ups because he's got size, and based on stuff I've read. I honestly don't care or think too much about him though.
http://www.hoopshype.com/players/pat_burke.htm
So, that could be a "that was then" thing... who knows, heh. I've just said him a couple times when talking about the Suns line-ups because he's got size, and based on stuff I've read. I honestly don't care or think too much about him though.
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loopymitch
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KP said:Touche...
Hey is Celt at this game?
He said he was going.
OptimusRhyme
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Wow this audio feed is way off
loopymitch
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NBA audio is crazy, they don't even have the game starting yet!
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