Suns @ Kings Game Thread

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hrdboild said:
I still think Ron needs to get the ball more.
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I agree with all of your post except this. Are you crazy? Give him the ball more and his effectiveness goes out the window. It was a long and tough road to get him to not chuck up so many shots. If he can consistantly pass more on doubles and post up whenever possible - maybe.
 
The Kings offense is not working right now. It needs to be completely redesigned. Look at what the Suns do, that's a smart offensive team. Every time down the floor Nash gets a pick which forces a defensive rotation, someone gets open, and he gets them the ball. Every time. Bibby needs a big man setting picks to be effective. He's at his best shooting that mid-range shot off of a screen or playing the pick and roll game. With Miller clearly struggling, he's on his own out there and he's forcing jumpshots instead because of it. The Suns are so good at running their offensive sets, that they're still able to take over the game even on an off night, which this clearly was for them. Then again, a lot of our offense in the first quarter (which is the only quarter we executed well offensively) was running plays for Kevin so it's not surprising how much we struggled when he had to leave the game. This is definately a more defense oriented team than we've seen here for a long time. But you can't win games without offense, no matter how well you defend. Especially not against high scoring teams like Phoenix. We'd be a playoff team in the Eastern conference though. Yipee.
 
swisshh said:
Artest stopped forcing his offense, but Bibby still is.

Also, Brad couldn't play in this style of game. Also, Brad isn't supplying much on either end. We need more from Miller than a glorified Ostertag.

The Kings look best when they go with the 6'7 squad.

Not enough offensie without Martin.
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Actually this team may very well be better off with an Ostertag than a Miller at this point with the direction they are heading.
 
We definately saw some nice D tonight, great full court pressure in the 4th. I just do not think that Artest is the answer to our offensive woes. Bibby either nees to step up to form or get traded for someone who can be.
 
Kingzrool said:
I agree with all of your post except this. Are you crazy? Give him the ball more and his effectiveness goes out the window. It was a long and tough road to get him to not chuck up so many shots. If he can consistantly pass more on doubles and post up whenever possible - maybe.
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At the end of the game I saw him hanging out on the perimeter. That's a problem. He's wasting his strength out there. When I say get Ron the ball more, I mean that he should get the ball with his back to the basket. Or at the least somewhere closer to the hoop than the three point line. He hit a couple open three-point shots tonight. That was a nice bonus, but it's not something we should be building the offense around. If he takes it strong to the hole it's almost an automatic foul and free throws. So they have to double him and that leaves someone open. That's what I keep hoping to see more of.
 
piksi said:
Just came home - no need to watch the tape - is it ?

Suns just have better team.
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Watch the first quarter. By far the best Kings basketball I've personally seen this year. And probably watch the second too. You can turn it off after that.
 
piksi said:
Just came home - no need to watch the tape - is it ?

Suns just have better team.
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Oh, you'd be surprised. We led by 5 at the half time, we had a game going. Then Suns made adjustments and we didn't. Unless jacking up bad shots on an off night is an adjustment...

But maybe you are right, we have too many of our "good" players stinking up joint on regular basis to compete with a team like Suns.
 
Didn't get to watch the game. Just looking at the stats, I guess this is when you could maybe single Bibby out. Not like last night's game (stats wise it didn't look like he was doing horribly out there). Tonight, 6/22? That's terrible no matter which way you slice it.

Anyway, something happened to Kev?! Hopefully it's not serious!!!!
 
LMM said:
Didn't get to watch the game. Just looking at the stats, I guess this is when you could maybe single Bibby out. Not like last night's game (stats wise it didn't look like he was doing horribly out there). Tonight, 6/22? That's terrible no matter which way you slice it.

Anyway, something happened to Kev?! Hopefully it's not serious!!!!
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I wouldn't single Mike out. But he is certainly proving to be a leader of a bad team (if you catch my drift), so maybe in that respect -yes, but he is by no means the only reason we lost.
 
hrdboild said:
Watch the first quarter. By far the best Kings basketball I've personally seen this year. And probably watch the second too. You can turn it off after that.
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which would make me upset since we couldn't sustain it.

I think I will rather watch Magic-Cavs. I heard - Darko did well
 
Bibby was actually 6-20 if you take away the two desperation threes at the end of the game. Not much better though. Kevin went up for a shot and sprained his ankle after he came down. It didn't look too bad, he didn't go down on the ground or anything, so hopefully he's back soon.

If you've got your pick of games, you can skip Magic-Cavs too. That game was really boring. Denver-New York got interesting right at the end. It looks like Chicago-Atlanta was the game to see though.
 
piksi said:
I hate to watch Kings lose
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Sorry bro, but I think that we both know that you will have to get used to it. The fourth had some really impressive full court D that made them call TO twice in a row. And the play in which Kev got injured, he blocked two passes in a row - a must see.
 
We had this game. The Suns were getting very tired, especially trying to keep up with Kevin. If he hadn't hurt his ankle, the Suns wouldn't have been able to keep up the pace. With him out, however, they were just able to outrun our Kings.

Arco was awesome. I haven't heard it like that in a very long time. Everyone came in, it seemed, with the idea of being good and loud to help boost the Kings. And...it almost worked.

We have some useless pieces on our team for the type of game we want to play. It was incredibly obvious last night. All things considered, however, I walked out of Arco glad I had been there and just hoping Kev would be okay.
 
I always enjoy going to games, especially when you are surrounded by people as passionate as you are.

p.s. When you yelled, "They killed Kenny," I thought that guy in front you was going to choke on his drink. :D
 
6th said:
I always enjoy going to games, especially when you are surrounded by people as passionate as you are.

p.s. When you yelled, "They killed Kenny," I thought that guy in front you was going to choke on his drink. :D
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Well, actually, I think it was KG who yelled "They killed Kenny." Someone sitting next to her may have yelled "They should have killed Kenny" when he lost the ball oob...

:p
 
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