State of the Kings Pre-trade Deadline Edition
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I would really love to see whats the possible return for trading Barnes, Holmes, Bjelica, Hield or others. If Barnes nets you a first and a prospect, pull the trigger. If Holmes nets you a first, pull the trigger. If Hield nets you anything meaningfull, pull the trigger. If bjelly nets you couple of seconds or even one good second, pull the trigger.
Focus the rest of this season and the next one for getting a very high pick and adding future assets. After one year come to the market with good cap situation, (over)pay ~180mil to similar guys like Barnes and Hield (that will not most likely be a problem) and try again with two additional PREMIUM draft prospects playing next to Fox and Hali with another bites of the apple (additional 1sts). That situation to me sounds so much better than using the next two seasons to fight for the 10th spot and drafting at a position where the possibility to draft a franchise changing player is almost non existent.
Focus the rest of this season and the next one for getting a very high pick and adding future assets. After one year come to the market with good cap situation, (over)pay ~180mil to similar guys like Barnes and Hield (that will not most likely be a problem) and try again with two additional PREMIUM draft prospects playing next to Fox and Hali with another bites of the apple (additional 1sts). That situation to me sounds so much better than using the next two seasons to fight for the 10th spot and drafting at a position where the possibility to draft a franchise changing player is almost non existent.
Getting a good return on investment is important, no doubt, but we shouldn't look at Barnes' value as being "JJ + expiring" when it's actually now higher than that. Barnes' value is now "Barnes for two years past this one at about $38.5M total".
Hampton/Knox/1st is a great return on investment of "JJ + expiring". It seems a lot closer to a push with "Barnes for two years past this one at about $38.5M total".
I'm not saying we absolutely shouldn't do it - this deal (which is a fan proposal and not an actual rumor that I know of) is among the best returns I've seen proposed for Barnes - but since we've got other considerations, like hoping that Barnes will be a part of a team that gets into and competes in the playoffs in the next three years, there are certainly reasons for the team to stand pat.
Hampton/Knox/1st is a great return on investment of "JJ + expiring". It seems a lot closer to a push with "Barnes for two years past this one at about $38.5M total".
I'm not saying we absolutely shouldn't do it - this deal (which is a fan proposal and not an actual rumor that I know of) is among the best returns I've seen proposed for Barnes - but since we've got other considerations, like hoping that Barnes will be a part of a team that gets into and competes in the playoffs in the next three years, there are certainly reasons for the team to stand pat.
Well, if there is one team content with soiling whatever young talent they have to eat up the middle of the rankings it's the Knicks. Knox showed promise in his rookie year and can't find any role within their offense since. They are doing the same to Toppin and thankfully they haven't yanked the chain on Barrett yet. He seems to be making out to the other side. Knox is a perfect upside gamble in a trade if the value isn't quite there for you otherwise.
Very few on even this board ( ok maybe only you) wouldn’t trade spots with OKC in a heart beat.
While Kings make a run for the 10th spot only to get crushed, OKC is sitting SGA for an indefinite period with “plantar faciitis”. Their is a reasonable chance OKC could come out of this draft with two picks in the top 5. Sam Presti is one of the best in the business.
I’m pretty sure a line-up of:
Jalen Suggs
Shai Gilgeous-Alexander
Lou Dort
Jonathon Kuminga
Xx whatever center they want with their warchest of picks
and a bench of
Bazeley
Poku
Whomever
will be a damn good team for years to come.
While Kings make a run for the 10th spot only to get crushed, OKC is sitting SGA for an indefinite period with “plantar faciitis”. Their is a reasonable chance OKC could come out of this draft with two picks in the top 5. Sam Presti is one of the best in the business.
I’m pretty sure a line-up of:
Jalen Suggs
Shai Gilgeous-Alexander
Lou Dort
Jonathon Kuminga
Xx whatever center they want with their warchest of picks
and a bench of
Bazeley
Poku
Whomever
will be a damn good team for years to come.
I'm not cool with that but I am not entirely sure we've done any such thing. Our pre-season moves all seemed geared for an all out tank and it didn't happen, these moves are maybe swapping a few expirings for other younger expirings or 1 year remainings. We may either be looking for a bigger trade or just stocking the cupboards. None of these players coming in is more than a bench player. And we're over the roster limit so I am thinking we may be moving pawns around while we move a bigger piece in the next 90 mins.
I have to think this "keeping for the play in" thing really could be a bit to get teams to up their offers. We can't go into next season with Walton as coach and a play-in is not the same as an 8 seed. Not to mention these play in games can't be profitable can they? Monte surely knows this and I think Vivek also deep down understands.
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