Spurs vs. Pistons

4cwebb

4cwebb

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Don't look now, but Pistons are putting whipping #2 on the Spurs, leading by 15 with 10 minutes left in the 4th. 'Sheed with 23 and 8 against Duncan --- one of those games which shows how much talent he's been wasting his entire NBA career.

Too bad the Pistons couldn't have pulled this act in the Finals last season. I'd be shocked if we don't see a rematch in the Finals this year.
 
4cwebb

4cwebb

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Jinx. Score was 71-56 when I initially posted the "whipping" comment. Spurs have scored the last 5 to cut the lead to 10 and locked down the Pistons' offense in the last few possessions. Should be an interesting final 5 minutes...
 
SacTownKid

SacTownKid

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Spurs are headed back, but from the looks of this game the Pistons are heads and shoulders above every other team in the league. Pistons knew they had to improve their offense to compete with the Spurs and they didn't even have to add anyone to do. I guess Flip but thats it.
 
VF21

VF21

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This game proves one thing beyond any reasonable doubt:

The Kings do NOT want to go to the playoffs. There is no way they could beat the loser of this contest, let alone face the winner in the big show.

Watching teams like that makes it obvious to these old eyes just how far down our team has fallen.

Next time someone talks about the Kings getting the 8th seed in the playoffs, think about what that would mean in the first round... The idea of facing Duncan, Parker, Manu, Bowen, Rasho, Horry, Van Exel, etc. does not fill me with anything even remotely resembling confidence. We just aren't good enough to compete with a team like that.

And as good as the Spurs are, they're being systematically taken apart by the guys from Detroit.

This is a game of basketball at a level we just can no longer claim to have access to...at least not now.
 
SacTownKid

SacTownKid

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Truthfully we were never at the level of these two teams. I think we were more equal or at the level of the Dallas Mavs at the time. Contenders but just had a few more imperfections on the the defensive side of the floor to take it home. We would have had to play unbelievable to beat a defensive monster like these two teams.

I used to be thankful we never had to match up with the Spurs in the playoffs. Just a bad matchup for the team we had.
 
Mr. S£im Citrus

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Am I the only one here that would love to see Detroit vs. San Antonio in the Finals again? I mean, people (fans and analysts/writers alike) keep trying to manufacture interest in Miami, but I would much rather seen the Spurs and Pistons; they have the potential to have a rivalry that transcends individual stars, especially if Detroit can beat San Antonio this year.
 
Mr. S£im Citrus

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SacTownKid said:
Truthfully we were never at the level of these two teams.
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That depends on your point of view; even at our peak (2001-03), I don't know if we were as good as either of those teams are playing right now, but I don't know if comparing them right now to us back then is really fair. Howe'er, comma, we were at least as good as the Spurs in 2001-02, probably as good in 2002-03 (BK, of course), and better than the Pistons during both of those seasons. It's not like the Spurs were playing as well three years ago as they are right now; they could be beaten back then.
 
4cwebb

4cwebb

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Mr. S£im Citrus said:
Am I the only one here that would love to see Detroit vs. San Antonio in the Finals again? I mean, people (fans and analysts/writers alike) keep trying to manufacture interest in Miami, but I would much rather seen the Spurs and Pistons; they have the potential to have a rivalry that transcends individual stars, especially if Detroit can beat San Antonio this year.
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Nope. If anything I'd like to see someone else represent the West. Presuming 76ers and CWebb have no realistic shot in the East, Pistons are the team I want to see in the Finals.
 
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BMiller52

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I don't know if the spurs are locks for the finals. PHX with a healthy amare is going to be really dangerous, besides if we could get six or seventh seed we only face phx(who might not have a healthy amare) or someone like minnesota or utah.
 
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Fillmoe

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pistons have the most well rounded team in the league...

the wallaces do all the dirty work
billups the most unselfish pg in the league
prince and hamilton are good scorers....

and to top it all of they all play good D

even though their bench is not the deepest or best... they play with alot of energy
 
Mr. S£im Citrus

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BMiller52 said:
I don't know if the spurs are locks for the finals. PHX with a healthy amare is going to be really dangerous, besides if we could get six or seventh seed we only face phx(who might not have a healthy amare) or someone like minnesota or utah.
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Wishful thinking, thy name is BMiller52...

We couldn't beat Phoenix in a seven-game series, with or without Stoudemire. Likewise, Phoenix can't beat San Antonio in a seven-game series, with or without Stoudemire.
 
Evenstar

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BMiller52 said:
I don't know if the spurs are locks for the finals. PHX with a healthy amare is going to be really dangerous, besides if we could get six or seventh seed we only face phx(who might not have a healthy amare) or someone like minnesota or utah.
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doubtful, since even with amare, the spurs still whipped the suns in 5 games last year. so a stronger spurs team vs a suns team with a hobbling amare will only manage to get swept IMO.
 
4cwebb

4cwebb

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Evenstar said:
doubtful, since even with amare, the spurs still whipped the suns in 5 games last year. so a stronger spurs team vs a suns team with a hobbling amare will only manage to get swept IMO.
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A Suns team without a healthy Joe Johnson. Now, I'm not saying that Raja Bell, Boris Diaw, Eddie House and whoever else the Suns have added completely make up for the loss of Joe Johnson, but they certainly have helped cushion the blow. And with Kurt Thomas, they have someone who at least cares about rebounding (unlike Stephen Hunter). Kurt's not the answer, but he's much better than Hunter. Still, the Suns probably have to wait until next season to see a fully recovered Amare.

On a sidenote, it'd be a shame to lose all the fun Amare brought to highlights if this surgery has an effect similar to what it did to CWebb.

And I'm not certain this Spurs team is actually stronger, or just about the same at this point. Ginobli has been injured off and on, Horry is another year older (but I'd never doubt him), Finley and Van Exel can play here and there, but not the way they used to be able to, at least not as consistently, and the center position still isn't anything superb. Granted, Parker has been playing better (thank you, Eva).
 
VF21

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BMiller52 said:
I don't know if the spurs are locks for the finals. PHX with a healthy amare is going to be really dangerous, besides if we could get six or seventh seed we only face phx(who might not have a healthy amare) or someone like minnesota or utah.
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I would NOT bank on having a healthy Amare for the playoffs this year. The worst thing Phoenix could do is bring him back too early.

As far as only facing Phoenix, Minnesota or Utah goes, we couldn't beat them either...

Slim - I would LOVE to see another Pistons-Spurs finals.
 
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TJinTX

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Mr. S£im Citrus said:
Am I the only one here that would love to see Detroit vs. San Antonio in the Finals again? I mean, people (fans and analysts/writers alike) keep trying to manufacture interest in Miami, but I would much rather seen the Spurs and Pistons; they have the potential to have a rivalry that transcends individual stars, especially if Detroit can beat San Antonio this year.
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As a Spurs fan, I agree with the SA/Det finals matchup :D Last night was a butt-whooping, though. No excuses. Right now, at this point in the season, Detroit is a better team than my Spurs. I don't think that will be true come playoff time, however. Then again, that's why they play the games....
 
Padrino

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TJinTX said:
As a Spurs fan, I agree with the SA/Det finals matchup :D Last night was a butt-whooping, though. No excuses. Right now, at this point in the season, Detroit is a better team than my Spurs. I don't think that will be true come playoff time, however. Then again, that's why they play the games....
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the spurs are definitely a team that's known for tunring it on in the playoffs. gregg popovich won't allow his team to try for 70 wins, even if they were capable. pop understands that his team doesn't need to win 60+ games in a weaker western conference than in previous years. the regular season just doesn't matter to him...or his team. they'll coast to the playoffs, then put a killing on anyone who tries to oppose them.

however, i have a hard time believing that even the spurs could beat detroit right now. i dont think anyone is close to detroit right now. if they suffer any serious injuries in their starting unit come playoff time, then maybe. but otherwise, they're the best team in the league, and while i expect another SA/DET finals series, i'm pretty sure detroit is gonna get the better of san antonio this time around.
 
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twocents

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i want a mavs vs pistons final. mavs are very, very silent, up and down, but i think is the only probable team in the west that could beat the spurs in a 7 games series. and i think that unless ginobili somehow retunes himself, the spurs of this year is actually a tad weaker than that of last year. that parker is better (in terms of scoring) is actually not a good thing for the spurs. and for some reason, duncan does not seem very sharp either (barring the hype surrounding "mr fundamental" who cannot shoot ft's). all of this is just a hunch.
 
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TJinTX

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Padrino said:
the spurs are definitely a team that's known for tunring it on in the playoffs. gregg popovich won't allow his team to try for 70 wins, even if they were capable. pop understands that his team doesn't need to win 60+ games in a weaker western conference than in previous years. the regular season just doesn't matter to him...or his team. they'll coast to the playoffs, then put a killing on anyone who tries to oppose them.
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Yes, that's all very true. That is the primary reason that he isn't starting Manu right now, as well, in my opinion. Pop sees very little reason to risk further injuring the guy many considered to be the key to beating Detroit in the finals, just to beat them in a regular season game. I've been a rabid Spurs fan since 1985, but one thing puzzles me: Duncan is hurting (plantar fasciitis), and Pop hasn't set him down to let it heal. The local SA media makes a point that Duncan doesn't WANT to sit out, but I still think he needs to. Now I'll quit second-guessing the Coach....:D
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however, i have a hard time believing that even the spurs could beat detroit right now. i dont think anyone is close to detroit right now. if they suffer any serious injuries in their starting unit come playoff time, then maybe. but otherwise, they're the best team in the league, and while i expect another SA/DET finals series, i'm pretty sure detroit is gonna get the better of san antonio this time around.
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You could very well be right. I think you're wrong, and I certainly HOPE you're wrong, but time will tell.
 
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