Sprewell wants trade
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Jazz did not want to pursue malone and they wanted to go younger. Interesting how you can find a relation between spree and malone, who are total opposites in terms of what they demanded and did. Now you can always talk about selfishness with everything and i can attribute every single action anyone does to being selfish, Malone in normal circumstances and with respect to superficial things is not selfish. Maybe he is selfish to get that ring, but isnt every nba player supposed to be, if a player says that he doesnt want to win then there is something wrong.
Then there are people who dont care about the ring or the team and go and do and say stuff that actually hurts the team, compared to them malone is nothing, in fact he is noble.
ps - Can you name someone in the nba whose interests didnt come first last and everything in between, well why not name someone in the world who didnt do that
Then there are people who dont care about the ring or the team and go and do and say stuff that actually hurts the team, compared to them malone is nothing, in fact he is noble.
ps - Can you name someone in the nba whose interests didnt come first last and everything in between, well why not name someone in the world who didnt do that
Can You blame them ?
Greg Ostertag 10 0-1 0-0 0-0 0 1 1 0 1 0 0 0 0
first 10 minutes of his career with thw Kings.
1rb and 1 PF. Impressive
Greg Ostertag 10 0-1 0-0 0-0 0 1 1 0 1 0 0 0 0
first 10 minutes of his career with thw Kings.
1rb and 1 PF. Impressive
He was considerably more effective than his numbers actually. Not dominant or anything, but definiteyl did the clog the middle thing that we got him for. Remember too that he's still playing with a taped up broken hand. I doubt very much he's going to surprise us much either way this year, but for one night at least he did his job, played his role, pretty well actually.
KingKong said:
Mother Teresa
I know what she did to this world and i know what her sacrifices were, but my point is that you can always twist things to make someone look selfish (guess it was tolstoy who wrote about that selfish theory )
vladetomiller said:
Well she did it whatever she did because she was selfish about getting famous, she was selfish about getting this great feeling that she has helped and touched lots of souls. She was selfish that she wanted to give all her time to helping the poor and the sick so that she will get the inner peace
I know what she did to this world and i know what her sacrifices were, but my point is that you can always twist things to make someone look selfish (guess it was tolstoy who wrote about that selfish theory )
I know what she did to this world and i know what her sacrifices were, but my point is that you can always twist things to make someone look selfish (guess it was tolstoy who wrote about that selfish theory )
Put your interests over the interests of others = selfish. Recognize no responsibility to anyone but yourself = selfish. Pursuit of a ring is fine. Overrated, but fine. Whoring yourself out and abandoning your team, your city, your fans, and your franchise in order to get it is NOT. Malone was not just any player. Malone was not a journeyman. He was the face of the franchise. As such he recieved incredible benefits over the course of his career in fame, money, power etc. He OWED that franchise his loyalty.
As in many other things in life you have to make choices in life. You can choose to stay with your greying wife. Or your can chase the big-breasted blonde down the street because hey, that was always your dream girl. Malone chose the big breasts. Nothing remotely noble about it.
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I really can't see a guy who makes $14 million and has his own company that has celebrity clients really need to use the term "feed my family" as if he's living off of welfare.
For those that want to know: He has 6 kids.
just makes me mad that I the average citizen who may go to see an NBA game once a year (if at all) has to hear a guy who makes 14 million in a year complain that he's not getting paid enough
For those that want to know: He has 6 kids.
just makes me mad that I the average citizen who may go to see an NBA game once a year (if at all) has to hear a guy who makes 14 million in a year complain that he's not getting paid enoughWhy does he owe them anything if they dont owe him anything in return. If the jazz would have said that they would try and sign big free agents to try and win within the next two years instead of rebuilding maybe he would have stayed. He received benefits LOL, he got paid for the work that he did and he was one among the few who came in and did the work with a passion and with a commitment, how many work in the offseason for that committment, he did year after year. Whereas we see prima donnas getting paid by millions and dont want to work in the offseason, or trying to get better in the offseason , or even trying to get healthy in the offseason or worst yet wait until one month to the season and get a surgery. Thats paid vacation, that man worked hard year after year and thats the way he paid back to the fans and to the organization that wrote his paychecks. He doesnt need to do anything else and he doesnt owe anything to them
Yes same goes the other way around, you dont have to twist it because he went to a different team better yet your supposed rival, so your hatred doesnt have to blind reality. You are talking about non material things that malone was selfish about, and you defend people who were selfish about materialistic things. I didnt want to get in that line, but your hatred towards an nba hero imo makes me do this. Why would you defend webber and his offcourt actions so vehemently saying that it was not a distraction or a big deal, whereas that is a perfect case of a selfish act, trying to do dope for the sole purpose of getting high. Thats selfishness, forgetting the fans, city and the owners and going and enjoying a little trip of dope. Again thats your perspective and i wouldnt interfere with your opinion, but to have hatred for a man who gave up money to come and play for a chance to win, thats beyond reasonable.
Yes he was the face of the franchise that dindnt want him there anymore, just like vlade/shaq/pollard/hedo etc etc who were sent packing by their respective teams. Maybe they dont send them packing in the same way but the meaning is the same. Vlade got more money and we call him selfish, but arent the owners selfish in not giving him market value or whatever he got as a tribute to that great players who signed up with your team as the only free agent when no one else dared to sign with the kings and your current franchise player didnt even want to report after the trade. Its a business and thats understood, however when a player from a different team does that its then selfish and here the guy played for less money and this season he has even told the lakers to sign vlade with more money and that he would come and play for less, thats selfishness, that beats me. Sure maybe he is selfish in a way that he wants to play for the great lakers but then he can also make it his terms where he can clearly see the interest from lots of teams.
Your anology is kinda good, the old woman didnt want to talk to you, the greying wife chose to go younger (isnt that what the jazz did ) and you are blaming the poor guy. Thanks for it though
So when the greying wife is partying with Ak and Booz you expect the guy to retire, hell not, he is going to play with the blondes that are interested in him
Yes same goes the other way around, you dont have to twist it because he went to a different team better yet your supposed rival, so your hatred doesnt have to blind reality. You are talking about non material things that malone was selfish about, and you defend people who were selfish about materialistic things. I didnt want to get in that line, but your hatred towards an nba hero imo makes me do this. Why would you defend webber and his offcourt actions so vehemently saying that it was not a distraction or a big deal, whereas that is a perfect case of a selfish act, trying to do dope for the sole purpose of getting high. Thats selfishness, forgetting the fans, city and the owners and going and enjoying a little trip of dope. Again thats your perspective and i wouldnt interfere with your opinion, but to have hatred for a man who gave up money to come and play for a chance to win, thats beyond reasonable.
Yes he was the face of the franchise that dindnt want him there anymore, just like vlade/shaq/pollard/hedo etc etc who were sent packing by their respective teams. Maybe they dont send them packing in the same way but the meaning is the same. Vlade got more money and we call him selfish, but arent the owners selfish in not giving him market value or whatever he got as a tribute to that great players who signed up with your team as the only free agent when no one else dared to sign with the kings and your current franchise player didnt even want to report after the trade. Its a business and thats understood, however when a player from a different team does that its then selfish and here the guy played for less money and this season he has even told the lakers to sign vlade with more money and that he would come and play for less, thats selfishness, that beats me. Sure maybe he is selfish in a way that he wants to play for the great lakers but then he can also make it his terms where he can clearly see the interest from lots of teams.
Your anology is kinda good, the old woman didnt want to talk to you, the greying wife chose to go younger (isnt that what the jazz did ) and you are blaming the poor guy. Thanks for it though
So when the greying wife is partying with Ak and Booz
you expect the guy to retire, hell not, he is going to play with the blondes that are interested in him
hey guys.......there's something new concerning Sprewell again..........
Timberwolves: Sprewell cited after argument with officer
November 3, 2004
Minnesota Timberwolves star Latrell Sprewell was cited Tuesday evening after a verbal confrontation with a Minneapolis police officer.
Sprewell, who was criticized by NBA Commissioner David Stern on Tuesday for comments Sprewell made regarding a contract extension, was riding in a vehicle that was stopped in downtown Minneapolis about 6 p.m., police spokesman Ron Reier said.
While the driver was questioned about licensing and insurance, Sprewell spoke up.
"Somehow, Sprewell attempted to intervene in the situation," Reier said. "He was then ordered to not interfere."
Ignoring the order, Sprewell was ticketed for failing to obey the lawful order of a police officer, a misdemeanor.
The Timberwolves' swing man has made headlines recently for publicly demanding that the team either extend his contract or trade him. Timberwolves vice president Kevin McHale declined to comment about the citation.
The Timberwolves are set to open the regular season tonight against Sprewell's former team, the New York Knicks.
Howie Padilla and Steve Aschburner
http://www.startribune.com/stories/511/5065886.html
Timberwolves: Sprewell cited after argument with officer
November 3, 2004
Minnesota Timberwolves star Latrell Sprewell was cited Tuesday evening after a verbal confrontation with a Minneapolis police officer.
Sprewell, who was criticized by NBA Commissioner David Stern on Tuesday for comments Sprewell made regarding a contract extension, was riding in a vehicle that was stopped in downtown Minneapolis about 6 p.m., police spokesman Ron Reier said.
While the driver was questioned about licensing and insurance, Sprewell spoke up.
"Somehow, Sprewell attempted to intervene in the situation," Reier said. "He was then ordered to not interfere."
Ignoring the order, Sprewell was ticketed for failing to obey the lawful order of a police officer, a misdemeanor.
The Timberwolves' swing man has made headlines recently for publicly demanding that the team either extend his contract or trade him. Timberwolves vice president Kevin McHale declined to comment about the citation.
The Timberwolves are set to open the regular season tonight against Sprewell's former team, the New York Knicks.
Howie Padilla and Steve Aschburner
http://www.startribune.com/stories/511/5065886.html
He did that because he was selfish about getting famous for being the guy who signed blank contracts. He passed to all those people instead of taking the shots himself because he wanted to be the all time leader in assists.
He signed blank contracts because he was selfish about getting more money from the owner, he knew that if he signed blank contracts and if the owner didnt pay him well then the media will blame the owner for not taking care of the unselfish player
He signed blank contracts because he was selfish about getting more money from the owner, he knew that if he signed blank contracts and if the owner didnt pay him well then the media will blame the owner for not taking care of the unselfish player
VTM, you are streaching just a little bit too far here. JS spent his entire career dodging the media and cameras. If there is any player with star potential that did his best to quietly avoid the label star it was the all time assist leader in the NBA. No matter how you try to frame his acts as self seving there is just no reasonable way to accruately describe JS as selfish, self serving or fame seeking. Seriously had he sought more money he could have made max money on numerous teams, had he sought more fame he could have played with mch more hih profile teams. As noted earlier Stockton was so adverse to the press I would honestly be surprised if there is more taht 6 hrs of interviews for his whole career.
LOL, i dont think you seriously believe in what i am saying are you. I am trying to make a point here about how someone can always be termed selfish irrespective of what they do (AKA Malone in the previous pages ).
But to continue the argument,
JS wanted to have his personal space and he was selfish about it and didnt want to talk to the media. He was selfish in trying to get that special name in history where he will be termed the supserstar who didnt want the superstar label (there were many superstars and many will come but there will be one and only JS who didnt want the label )
As about playing in more high profile teams, he was selfish that he wanted his team and didnt want to share the spotlight with anyone.
He didnt give interviews cos he was selfish about his time, he would rather selfishly spend time with his family and friends and hang out at his own small bar rather than talk to the media
But to continue the argument,
JS wanted to have his personal space and he was selfish about it and didnt want to talk to the media. He was selfish in trying to get that special name in history where he will be termed the supserstar who didnt want the superstar label (there were many superstars and many will come but there will be one and only JS who didnt want the label )
As about playing in more high profile teams, he was selfish that he wanted his team and didnt want to share the spotlight with anyone.
He didnt give interviews cos he was selfish about his time, he would rather selfishly spend time with his family and friends and hang out at his own small bar rather than talk to the media
Those should show my level of sensitivity, but i am up for an argument anytime
Ps - Malone is one of my nba heroes from a long time, and i dont change them from time to time. I can give a list for future reference
Malone
Scottie (no jordan)
Stockton
magic
Jabbar
AC Green
Kerr
Reggie Miller
Currently playing
Garnett
Kobe
Duncan
Vlade
Barry
Dirk
Bobby
Christie
AK
well thats a small list i can think of now
should show my level of sensitivity, but i am up for an argument anytime Ps - Malone is one of my nba heroes from a long time, and i dont change them from time to time
. I can give a list for future referenceMalone
Scottie (no jordan)
Stockton
magic
Jabbar
AC Green
Kerr
Reggie Miller
Currently playing
Garnett
Kobe
Duncan
Vlade
Barry
Dirk
Bobby
Christie
AK
well thats a small list i can think of now
"Why would I want to help them win a title?" he said. "They're not doing anything for me. I've got a lot at risk here. I've got my family to feed. Anything can happen; it's a long season. You never know."
What does Spree feed his family ? He was going to make 27 million over three years, and he's talking about putting food on the table ?
I'd just love to hit him in the face right now.
What does Spree feed his family ? He was going to make 27 million over three years, and he's talking about putting food on the table ?
I'd just love to hit him in the face right now.
I have been able to secure an actual transcript of the discussion with the officer:
Officer (to the driver): I need to see your license and registration, please.
Driver: Certainly, officer. Just a minute...
Sprewell (jumping up and standing on his seat): Yo, dude. Don't you know who I am?
Officer: No, sir, I'm sorry, I don't. Please sit back down and we'll get you back on your way in just a moment.
Sprewell (with his head jammed firmly against the roof of the car): Dude! I'm Latrell Sprewell! You know, the star of the Timberwolves?
Officer: Hmmmm. Strange. I thought Kevin Garnett was the star of the Wolves. Oh well, it doesn't matter - considering they choked when it mattered most.
Sprewell: What?!?! What you talkin' about, pig?
Officer: Excuse me, sir. YOu're really going to have to sit back down. And don't call me "pig." And...hey, wait a minute. You're the idiot who choked his coach a few years back aren't you?
Sprewell: The dude had it coming!!! Now, are you gonna let my friend go or what? This is chicken-bleep!
Officer (to the driver, after checking the appropriate paperwork): Thank you.
Officer (to Sprewell): I told you to sit down and let me do my job. This (handing Sprewell the citation) is for you...
Sprewell: !$#%)$^!@#$%^(&@$&^
Officer: Thank you, sir. Have a nice day.
Officer: (As he walks back to his car) He's the star of the Wolves? What a tool...
Officer (to the driver): I need to see your license and registration, please.
Driver: Certainly, officer. Just a minute...
Sprewell (jumping up and standing on his seat): Yo, dude. Don't you know who I am?
Officer: No, sir, I'm sorry, I don't. Please sit back down and we'll get you back on your way in just a moment.
Sprewell (with his head jammed firmly against the roof of the car): Dude! I'm Latrell Sprewell! You know, the star of the Timberwolves?
Officer: Hmmmm. Strange. I thought Kevin Garnett was the star of the Wolves. Oh well, it doesn't matter - considering they choked when it mattered most.
Sprewell: What?!?! What you talkin' about, pig?
Officer: Excuse me, sir. YOu're really going to have to sit back down. And don't call me "pig." And...hey, wait a minute. You're the idiot who choked his coach a few years back aren't you?
Sprewell: The dude had it coming!!! Now, are you gonna let my friend go or what? This is chicken-bleep!
Officer (to the driver, after checking the appropriate paperwork): Thank you.
Officer (to Sprewell): I told you to sit down and let me do my job. This (handing Sprewell the citation) is for you...
Sprewell: !$#%)$^!@#$%^(&@$&^
Officer: Thank you, sir. Have a nice day.
Officer: (As he walks back to his car) He's the star of the Wolves? What a tool...
