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I love Brad to death. but he had 4 points total. 1 rebound and 2 assists after the 1st quarter. Sometimes ( I say this with doubt) It almost seems he fouls as a bail out to have an excuse for poor play. In other words If things don't go his way he kinda takes his ball and goes home.
albeitrue
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BUT, he ended game with 7 rebounds and team high 6 assists, not bad for being pouty. All our guys have their personality quirks, but usually Brad being upset helps his play. Could be he's missing Web up high, maybe he has to work harder underneath the basket. Also, he only played 31 minutes, some kind of low for the year, I think.Entity said:
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As a rule a starter should never have more fouls than points. But you have to admit he seems to just give up when he don't get the calls. No more rebound no more assist just fouling until he is out. I am sure he is tired and is ready for some of the scoring load to come off as well as bibby.
ReinadelosReys
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I don't know what was the final count, but we took way too many 3's. That's not our game.
iheartBrad
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albeitrue said:
hahaha....that really made me laugh...thanks for saying that...hehehe
i really think Brad was right about that "offensive foul" he had on Fortson...it was BS
albeitrue
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LOL! When a starter has less than five points ... or six if he fouls out ... you know somethings out of sync.Entity said:
All out-of-sync aside, the guys busted their butts to the best of their ability tonight, even though they were unsuccessful at winning I think they'll look back and make their adjustments. And hey, Brad's great scoring percentage doesn't get knocked down too far, since he did only take 6 shots
I saw him pass up two or three good looks, but hard to believe they would have made that much difference.
iheartBrad
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Entity said:
i understand what you are saying...and maybe even agree to some extent
but i don't think when he does that he's really conscious of it...he just gets so mad 
, ya knowand for the record I too love Brad to death
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albeitrue said:LOL! When a starter has less than five points ... or six if he fouls out ... you know somethings out of sync.
All out-of-sync aside, the guys busted their butts to the best of their ability tonight, even though they were unsuccessful at winning I think they'll look back and make their adjustments. And hey, Brad's great scoring percentage doesn't get knocked down too far, since he did only take 6 shots
WE lost by 5. 2 or 3 good looks means 4 to 6 points.
albeitrue
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Yeah, but to expect Brad to take every single open look is not very reasonable. He's just now moving up to 85-90% of his looks! His confidence was low tonight (1-6). At least two of the looks were sometime before he sat down for the long stretch, and when he came back he was probably automatically looking for someone else to do the shooting. I kinda wish others would have taken his cue (Mobley 6-16).Entity said:
albeitrue
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Entity, where do you get your quarter by quarter stats? I've always wondered where to find those. I get my stats from Yahoo!, maybe they are incorrect. Yahoo! was not calculating properly earlier tonight, maybe they are still wrong.Entity said:
I think Brad had 3 fouls in the first half. Songalia was banging down low tonight too...I can't say why Brad fizzled out maybe someone else can help with that question.
iheartBrad
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albeitrue said:Okay, albeitrue show over now.
for real...goodnight everyone
kingskings!
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Evenstar said:
Actually, according to the Kings official website pronunciation guide it's
Sun-GUY-la. Yeah, trivia...whatever...
kingskings!
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VF21 said:Nice. Instead of rooting for the team all you guys can do is bad-mouth them? I guess I'm just odd-man out.
No, you're not...well, at least you have company! I love the hustle and energy this lineup gives the Kings. Win or lose, they are exciting.
kingskings!
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vj9999 said:
I haven't seen a post tonight that I agree with more than yours! Good effort, good game, hard loss. It happens.
kingskings!
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Since93 said:
Learn about the player before you diss him next time, K?
And no, it has not translated to NBA greatness...yet...but the potential is there. And his NBA career high in one game is 28 (in 2002)
For your edification:
http://thesundevils.collegesports.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/house_eddie00.html
Finished his four-year Arizona State career as the school’s leading scorer with 2,044 points (11th on Pac-10 career list) and also the school’s all-time steals leader with 258 (third on Pac-10 career list). Just the second player in Pac-10 history to notch 2,000 points and 250 steals (Gary Payton is the other). Did not miss a game in 124-game career. Earned All-Pac-10 honors twice in his career, an accomplishment notched by just four other Sun Devils. Posted 12 30-point games in his career in seven arenas and in six states. Played for three coaches in four years and earned Pac-10 Player of the Year honors in his senior year, the first Sun Devil to earn the honor.
His toughness was never in doubt, as in his junior year he broke his jaw in practice on October 22, 1998, and had it wired for the first six games. Living on a diet of milkshakes and soup he averaged 19.3 points, including a 31-point effort vs. Kansas State when he played all 45 minutes of an overtime game. Had 39 points vs. UNLV in the first game back from having the wiring removed. In his freshman season (1996-97), he suffered chipped teeth and had to get three root canals following a 2 p.m. game in the Great Alaska Shootout, but he had seven three-pointers the next day vs. Maine in a noon tip-off.
One of the best-known players in the nation his senior year, led by his Pac-10 record matching 61-point outburst at California on Jan. 8 in a 111-108 double-overtime win. The first Pac-10 player to notch four 40-point games in one season as he had 46 vs. San Diego State, 42 vs. Penn State and 40 vs. UCLA. Posted eight 30-point games and set ASU records in points (736) and points per game (23.0). Also led the team in assists (111) and steals (74), as the 74 steals is tied for second on ASU single-season list. Tenth in Pac-10 in assists per game (3.47), second in steals (2.31) and sixth in free-throw percentage (.835). Outscored 55 Division I teams on Jan. 8 with his 61 points, and it marked just the sixth time since 1978 that a player had more than 60 points in a game involving two Division I teams. The 61 points matched Lew Alcindor’s mark set in 1967. Was the only senior on a team with six true freshmen and led ASU to just its fourth 19-win season in the past 17 years, including a 10-8 mark in the Pac-10 that was tied with NCAA Sweet Sixteen participant UCLA for fourth place. Also became the first player to earn Pac-10 Player of the Week three straight weeks in one season and became just the fourth player to earn the award four times in a season. Ended the season as the nation’s fourth-leading scorer at 23.0 ppg.
As a junior, he was second in the league in scoring at 18.9 points per game (Jason Terry led the league at 21.9) and was fourth in the league in steals with 2.03 per game. He averaged 21.9 points in games away from Tempe and averaged 38.3 minutes in the final 12 games of the year, playing at least 40 minutes in five of those games. Earned Pac-10 Player of the Week honors on Dec. 21 for his Dec. 19 effort at Texas A & M when he posted 34 points in a triple-overtime win. Also had 39 points vs. UNLV at America West Arena, 34 points at Oregon and had 31 points vs. Kansas State in Maui Invitational.
In sophomore year (1997-98), House averaged 11.3 points and 2.0 steals per game, which was fifth in the Pac-10. He posted three 20-point games, including 22 vs. No. 2 Kansas on Nov. 26 in Madison Square Garden. Also had 24 vs. Eastern Michigan and 22 at UCLA. Shot 40.1 percent from the three-point line (55-of-137) and also hit the game-winning three-pointer at Washington State on Jan. 11. In House’s freshman year (1996-97), he became the first ASU freshmen to notch 50 steals (59) and 100 assists (108) en route to earning Pac-10 All-Freshmen honors. He averaged nearly 30 minutes a game and had just 39 turnovers in 886 minutes (one turnover every 22.7 minutes) and his assist-to-turnover ratio was 2.77-to-1. Had season-high 24 points at No. 24 UCLA on Feb. 15, the most points by a Sun Devil freshmen in a road game since Jamal Faulkner had 27 at Oregon on Feb. 28, 1991.
http://statepress.com/issues/2005/01/14/sports/mhoops/690996
Strong finish helps ASU beat California
by Brian Gomez
BERKELEY, Calif. - It wasn't the type of classic seen here five years ago when Eddie House scored a Pac-10-record 61 points.
http://www.dailybruin.com/db/archivedarticles.asp?ID=2287&date=12/11/2000
"Last year we had the youngest basketball team in the country with seven freshman and one senior," Evans said. "The loss of Eddie House is a huge loss for us, he was the leading scoring in the history of our school." "Last year we had the youngest basketball team in the country with seven freshman and one senior," Evans said. "The loss of Eddie House is a huge loss for us, he was the leading scoring in the history of our school."
http://www.dailybruin.ucla.edu/db/issues/00/01.24/sports.mbasketball.html
But much credit must also go to the Bruin bench, which responded to the challenge of going to a smaller lineup to contain the offensive arsenal of Wooden Award candidate Eddie House. And the complete inside-outside package of sophomore forward Matt Barnes, who had 17 points and six rebounds in 24 minutes of play, was able to compensate for sophomore center Dan Gadzuric only being on the floor for a total of 17 minutes on Saturday.
http://www.dailybruin.ucla.edu/db/issues/00/02.18/sports.mbasketball.html
[font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]ASU's House too much for weary Bruins [/font][font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]
[/font]By AJ Cadman
TEMPE, Ariz. -- The chant rang loudly from the 10,036 boisterous fans at Wells Fargo Arena on Arizona State's campus Thursday night.
"Whose house?" "Eddie's house!"
Behind a 40-point eruption from possible Pac-10 Player of the Year Eddie House, his fourth of the season, ASU (15-9, 7-5) handed UCLA (13-10, 4-7) a 104-75 loss and the reality of having to win five of the remaining seven Pac-10 games to go 9-9 and get a chance at postseason play.
"Obviously, Arizona State beat us to the punch in every phase of the game," UCLA head coach Steve Lavin said. "We got thoroughly dominated. It was obvious that they were on their 'A' game."
The win ended Arizona State's 22-game losing streak to UCLA and was the largest margin of victory in the series. The previous best was a 93-79 Sun Devil triumph back in 1963.
"They were doing some talking before the game," said House, only the second player in conference history, along with UCLA's Lew Alcindor, to record four 40-point games. "I just filed it in my head. We knew how important this game was and I think we wanted it more tonight."
House went 15 of 22 from the field and three of five from beyond the three-point arc.
UCLA was led by the unsuccessful heroics of freshman forward Jason Kapono's 24 points on eight of 16 shooting, including six of nine from downtown. But a 14-point deficit at halftime and the loss of Earl Watson to foul trouble at the 14-minute mark of the second half sealed the Bruins' fate.
"Offensively, we were OK," UCLA senior co-captain Sean Farnham said. "But defensively, they took control. Eddie (House) was talking from the start and threw off the rhythm of some of our guys."
UCLA was out-rebounded 37-31 by ASU's smaller lineup. Led by a 12-point, 13-rebound performance by forward Awvee Storey, the Sun Devils limited Dan Gadzuric and Jerome Moiso to a combined 14 points and seven rebounds in 39 minutes.
And while ASU freshman point guard Kyle Dodd had a career high 10 assists and reserve forward Tanner Shell had 12 points, nothing made the Sun Devils mob the floor afterwards more than the jaw-dropping play of their senior shooting guard.
"Once he gets his momentum, he's one of the most dynamic and powerful players in college basketball," Lavin said.
"Eddie House is the Player of the Year in the Pac-10," Farnham said. "They should just give him the award now."
For House, Thursday night was just another chapter in a brilliant career that has many projecting him as an NBA first-round draft pick. His closing act against UCLA, the most points scored by a single player in a regular season game against the Bruins, validates those thoughts.
"I told my teammates that this was the last time I was playing UCLA," House said of his 0-7 career record against the Bruins. "I wanted to beat this team."
For UCLA, the house is crumbling with the Bruins inside.
(EDIT: full article at link above. Edited for size limit to posts)
kingskings!
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albeitrue said:
In the real world, the flagrant was called on Bradley and it really was a flagrant. Doesn't take away from his effort and hustle but you have to call it what it was.
And I believe you mean the call on Brad was detrimental.
albeitrue
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Yep, it was BRADLEY, argh! And you're right, it had "hussle" written all over it. Bradley showed us what he could do last night, too bad it had to be on a night when that hussle just wasn't enough.kingskings! said:
During the game it's hard to take time to spell properly, maybe should have used a littler word. Hey KingsKings!, you should hang out here during the game sometime. You may find yourself too busy with our spelling, etc. to watch the game, though.
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