So no trade help either ???? WTF ??

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I would think that the Maloofs would have wanted to make some sort of trade to at least make the rest of this season somewhat interesting. Kinda a thank you to the fans for their undying support and to the city for keeping the Arena hopes alive.

BUT NOOOOOOO! They are gonna stick with the mediocrity they have! Well, considering Petrie's track record of acquiring good free agents (anybody still on that Chuck Hayes bandwagon???), I guess it is best to keep the lack of talent we have instead of the lack of talent we dont know... :confused:
 
What the hell is the point of winning a few more games this season? The only result is to fall lower in the lottery. I hope we can pick up some good wins to keep the chemistry fine and to show some progress, but if we can finally get some luck in the lottery, we will be getting some BIG help.
 
Larger issue is having all these pieces no one wants. Reke and Cuz other teams want. Aside from them? How many would be after MT and his contract, and he's our third most valuable piece? Maybe some teams, but my guess is not too many. And aside from MT?

That's why I was so critical of moves like acquiring Salmons, signing Hayes and Outlaw. We're just adding to our collection of players no one wants, and those are our most recent moves. JJ/Omri was a wash, trading that pick looks terrible. Jimmer could be good, but players drafted after him are looking considerably better. Think Klay Thompson wouldn't be heping us considerably more?

I'm frustrated about not making a move, but it's understandable given all the crap we have. What I'm far more concerned about is every recent move has us heading increasingly in the wrong direction.
 
It just puts a huge emphasis on the upcoming draft. I mean we need help, badly, and our pick will likely have to provide it (barring a trade)
 
We have three pieces of any value, and of course they are also the three pieces we need to go forward with. Problem is at this point what exactlyw ould somebody trade you for a John Salmons, JJ Hickson or Jimmer Fredette?

I had some hope we might be able to pick up somebody on a salary dump, but there the owner's' finances really may have come to play, as may our recent skid right out of the playoff fantasy. What's the point in picking up a 30yr old vet if the season is already lost?

Well the point may have been to try to keep fans interested, but basketballwise we had no assets to make the moves that would help us longterm, and no reason any loger to make shorter term moves.
 
What the hell is the point of winning a few more games this season? The only result is to fall lower in the lottery. I hope we can pick up some good wins to keep the chemistry fine and to show some progress, but if we can finally get some luck in the lottery, we will be getting some BIG help.

I think people just find it sort of depressing that the best way for this team to tank into the lottery is to maintain the roster as is.
 
If you really think about this season, the Kings are already stacked with young prospects, what, of any value, could the Kings have gone out to get? The rest of the season could be a dog and should be called "prospect development time". But what else would a team like Sac want to get?

-A player that will get them to the playoffs? Last time I checked, those guys aren't available.
-Salary relief? They cannot go any lower.
-An ending contract? Still plenty of cap room this summer.
-A pick... effectively another long-term prospect
-Cash? Sure, who doesn't like cash?
-A veteran presence? Last time I checked, this team is going to be a lottery team this season; why get marginally better at this point? Do that in the offseason with a high lottery pick.
-Someone to exchange for bad contracts or bad attitudes? Sure, that's great, but what do you have to give up?

So, I don't see the Kings as having a huge motivation to make a deal here... just continue developing prospects... that is where the Kings are and what they are doing.
 
We have three pieces of any value, and of course they are also the three pieces we need to go forward with. Problem is at this point what exactlyw ould somebody trade you for a John Salmons, JJ Hickson or Jimmer Fredette?

I had some hope we might be able to pick up somebody on a salary dump, but there the owner's' finances really may have come to play, as may our recent skid right out of the playoff fantasy. What's the point in picking up a 30yr old vet if the season is already lost?

Well the point may have been to try to keep fans interested, but basketballwise we had no assets to make the moves that would help us longterm, and no reason any loger to make shorter term moves.

And the best thing is Smart can now see if he can work that thirteen man rotation into every game.
 
He knew he didn't have to do anything because we would ***** either way. However, it would be more fun to ***** about something new. Oh well. Our guys better shape up or we'll boooo them out of the arena for the next four games.
 
It was not about winning more games this season. It was about getting assets for next season. Why couldn't we make a deal with boston for a 1st rounder for JJ? I believe that if you try really hard you can make a deal around JJ and your cap space that lands a 1st round pick. Our FO just doesn't seem to care. They are not aggressive on the market, they don't try to make things happen.

It's frustrating when you see a lot of teams making movements, trying to get better. It seems to me we are not even trying. Now we are stuck with Tyreke at SF until the end of the season. Then we are ready for another great summer, with a lot of cap space that we will use to sign a useless player who will be in the dog house after 10 games.

I get so mad when I think that we were so much better at the end of last year. We only had to re-sign Thornton and Dally, without messing with him. Keep Beno and your 7th pick, draft Leonard or Knight. But no, we made all the wrong moves and now we are not even trying to fix this mess. Well, maybe I'm just too negative, but when you love a team so much it's hard to accept this situation.
 
GP: we need to tank the season
Smart: No way! Im not sacrificing my reputation and job prospects!
GP: How about if we gaurantee you next year?
Smart: Ok!
 
I would think that the Maloofs would have wanted to make some sort of trade to at least make the rest of this season somewhat interesting. Kinda a thank you to the fans for their undying support and to the city for keeping the Arena hopes alive.

BUT NOOOOOOO! They are gonna stick with the mediocrity they have! Well, considering Petrie's track record of acquiring good free agents (anybody still on that Chuck Hayes bandwagon???), I guess it is best to keep the lack of talent we have instead of the lack of talent we dont know... :confused:

Mediocrity?!? No, mediocrity would be treading around a .500 record...this is just SUCKING!
 
Napear said that they were talking to alot of other teams but there was nothing worth going behind that.... Whatever that means.
 
Napear said that they were talking to alot of other teams but there was nothing worth going behind that.... Whatever that means.

He also said he's looking for answers as to why our defense sucks, without commenting on lineups or small ball.

Also said he will not field calls on Smart since coaching obviously isn't the problem. Said Sloan wouldn't be any better. Pretty clear while he understands the x's and o's of the NFL, he's quite clueless about the NBA. Said our team beat LAL, SA and OKC with this roster, so coaching isn't the problem. Forgot to mention the lineups and sub patterns were completely different.

Obviously our roster is a huge issue, but so is how our coach is using the pieces we do have, as in playing away from their strengths. If lineups and coaches don't matter, then someone explain something such as Durant playing SG under PJ and the team being terrible, and then moving Durant to SF and bringing in Brooks turned everything around?
 
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As much as we all wanted a good trade the only players other GMs called Petrie about were probably Cousins and Reke. I don't think there's anyone else on the team that another team may need.
 
As much as we all wanted a good trade the only players other GMs called Petrie about were probably Cousins and Reke. I don't think there's anyone else on the team that another team may need.

we had expirings which other teams could use. oh and dont forget that oh so valuable capspace :rolleyes:
 
We have three pieces of any value, and of course they are also the three pieces we need to go forward with. Problem is at this point what exactlyw ould somebody trade you for a John Salmons, JJ Hickson or Jimmer Fredette?

I had some hope we might be able to pick up somebody on a salary dump, but there the owner's' finances really may have come to play, as may our recent skid right out of the playoff fantasy. What's the point in picking up a 30yr old vet if the season is already lost?

Well the point may have been to try to keep fans interested, but basketballwise we had no assets to make the moves that would help us longterm, and no reason any loger to make shorter term moves.

Totally agree.

A trade just for the sake of making some fans happy because something had been done wasn't going to happen. I keep trying to get people to remember they need to be very careful what they wish for.
 
We have three pieces of any value, and of course they are also the three pieces we need to go forward with. Problem is at this point what exactlyw ould somebody trade you for a John Salmons, JJ Hickson or Jimmer Fredette?

I had some hope we might be able to pick up somebody on a salary dump, but there the owner's' finances really may have come to play, as may our recent skid right out of the playoff fantasy. What's the point in picking up a 30yr old vet if the season is already lost?

Well the point may have been to try to keep fans interested, but basketballwise we had no assets to make the moves that would help us longterm, and no reason any loger to make shorter term moves.

Hickson is the one piece I'm having a hard time swallowing still suiting up here. He walks at the end of the season and we lost everything in that trade to the cavs. We couldn't even get a second rounder or some cash out of Boston for him?
 
A trade just for the sake of making some fans happy because something had been done wasn't going to happen.
Oh well, non-sense moves happened the last off-season and don't say there is no way it would have happened this time around. I was actually surprised it didn't happen this time. Maybe Petrie learned something or he actually got lazy to pursue anything to improve the team. BTW, I am very happy because Petrie was not able to mess-up the roster some more by doing nothing at all.

Or maybe we should have made a move to acquire Wallace, Stephen Jackson, or Javalle Macgee for MT or some other combinations? Are their contracts that toxic?
 
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If you really think about this season, the Kings are already stacked with young prospects, what, of any value, could the Kings have gone out to get? The rest of the season could be a dog and should be called "prospect development time". ...

just continue developing prospects... that is where the Kings are and what they are doing.

I agree with the points you made. However, certain prospects in the past (i.e. Donte Greene) have been ignored late in losing seasons. Hopefully now that we're committed to losing this season, Coach Smart will actually DEVELOP OUR PROSPECTS. This means that we should not be seeing any more of Salmons/Cisco and Chuck over Honeycutt and Hassan. There is no reason whatsoever that it should happen the rest of this year. If those vets continue to get the minutes? Then we have a right to be angry about not acquiring anything at the deadline.
 
Hickson is the one piece I'm having a hard time swallowing still suiting up here. He walks at the end of the season and we lost everything in that trade to the cavs. We couldn't even get a second rounder or some cash out of Boston for him?



Agree with that. I refuse to beleive there wasn't a single team who would have given you that for him. He's gone in 6 weeks, everybody knows it. Everybody wants it. So what on Earth is th point in rifing out the last 6 weeks of his contract?
 
Oh well, non-sense moves happened the last off-season and don't say there is no way it would have happened this time around. I was actually surprised it didn't happen this time. Maybe Petrie learned something or he actually got lazy to pursue anything to improve the team. BTW, I am very happy because Petrie was not able to mess-up the roster some more by doing nothing at all.

Or maybe we should have made a move to acquire Wallace, Stephen Jackson, or Javalle Macgee for MT or some other combinations? Are their contracts that toxic?

When will people accept the fact that wanting/needing to make a trade doesn't mean a trade will miraculously develop? You and I have no way of knowing what moves were made in an attempt to acquire players or what offers Petrie rejected. Personally, I'm just happy we didn't end up sending Tyreke to LA for Luke Walton.
 
Hickson showed promise during his time in Cleveland. It would have been a mistake to trade him for a second rounder. Bring in a coach who can teach this kid.
 
When will people accept the fact that wanting/needing to make a trade doesn't mean a trade will miraculously develop? You and I have no way of knowing what moves were made in an attempt to acquire players or what offers Petrie rejected. Personally, I'm just happy we didn't end up sending Tyreke to LA for Luke Walton.

Wait what? You mean teams aren't lining up to give us their star player for Hickson/Jimmer/Salmons?
 
Wait what? You mean teams aren't lining up to give us their star player for Hickson/Jimmer/Salmons?

Not star players, but maybe late draft picks or even second round picks. JJ is a young big/expiring that contending teams can use. I'm sure he could have been moved
 
Hickson showed promise during his time in Cleveland. It would have been a mistake to trade him for a second rounder. Bring in a coach who can teach this kid.

I don't know if you know this but his contract is ending this year. He could leave and we'll have nothing to show for it.
 
Agree with that. I refuse to beleive there wasn't a single team who would have given you that for him. He's gone in 6 weeks, everybody knows it. Everybody wants it. So what on Earth is th point in rifing out the last 6 weeks of his contract?

Well, maybe a miracle happens, JJ Hickson might play a good amount better, and then the Kings can give him a qualifying offer in the Summer for a decent price if he played up to par.

A 2nd Rounder for JJ Hickson would not have looked good for Omri, who was kind of popular in Sacramento.

I at least wanted either the late 1st round pick from Boston or their player, Avery, their defensive minded rookie PG who looks decent.
 
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