Should the kings retire c-webb's number?
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ok, last night during the TV pregame show, i could have sworn I saw something hanging from the rafters while the camera was looking up at Jerry Reynolds. It was out of focus, but to me it was reminiscent(sp?) of a jersey with the number four on it...my guess is that it was #1 and im just crazy, but i kinda need someone to reasure me (and maybe someone to check next time they're at arco 
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I know, I know, teams cant retire numbers until the player has retired...i just hadta say something, cuz i coudl have sworn...
).I know, I know, teams cant retire numbers until the player has retired...i just hadta say something, cuz i coudl have sworn...
I'm a big 49er fan, and I liked the comparison. Not because Webb is (or isn't) a player of the calibre of Jerry Rice (or Joe Montana or Steve Young), but because he is as big of a part of this era of Kings basketball as they were for that era of 49er football. Unfortunately we don't have the rings to show for it, but Webb helped make this team the team it is today. We went from hoping we could win 20 games a season to accepting nothing less than 50, and he's a big part of that. We went from a team that no one had heard of, to a team that other NBA players want to play for, and he was a big part of that. This has been an incredibly exciting, thrilling (and of course, heartbreaking) era of Kings basketball, and he was a big part of that.
So, I guess my point is, while CWebb may not be to basketball what Jerry Rice, Joe, and Steve are to football, I think he means as much to the Kings as those players do to the 49ers.
Yes, retire the jersey. To me, it is a no brainer, not because of stats or comparisons, but because some players (Webb, Vlade) brought so much to Sacramento that can not be measured on paper, but only in the hearts and memories of those that were on the rollercoaster ride.
So, I guess my point is, while CWebb may not be to basketball what Jerry Rice, Joe, and Steve are to football, I think he means as much to the Kings as those players do to the 49ers.
Yes, retire the jersey. To me, it is a no brainer, not because of stats or comparisons, but because some players (Webb, Vlade) brought so much to Sacramento that can not be measured on paper, but only in the hearts and memories of those that were on the rollercoaster ride.
He was a Sacramento Kings player (past tense)
Sacramento Kings were much much more than Webber. If You do not believe it - check the Kings record without him. everybody knows the importance that Webber had here but to say that he was "the Kings" - that is pretty inaccurate doing disservice to bunch of other guys that You might find irrelevant ant not really important but who in reallty carried a big part of the load to get the Kings in the position in which they were/are.
Sacramento Kings were much much more than Webber. If You do not believe it - check the Kings record without him. everybody knows the importance that Webber had here but to say that he was "the Kings" - that is pretty inaccurate doing disservice to bunch of other guys that You might find irrelevant ant not really important but who in reallty carried a big part of the load to get the Kings in the position in which they were/are.
Its only a mild exaggeration -- this was a moribund franchise, and its entirely possible if Webb never shows up in Sacto, this board would be dedicated to the Kansas City Kings, or wherever. The fanbase was dying along with the franchise. Webb, and Vlade as well, turned things around. There have been other good players through the years, but those were the guys who were the faces and heart and soul of the Kings. for better or worse, they defined who the team was, and put the team on the map as something other than a AAA farm club for the rest of the league. Its not even a talent thing (indeed in Vlade's case not even close), and not solely a winning thing. They were much more important than that.
I hear you, but I think there are subtle problems and unspoken factors that taint the popular assessment of Chris Webber as being largely responsible for the success of the Sacramento Kings.
I think the Kings would have ascended pretty well without Chris Webber. I believe that the success of the Kings can better be atributed to the Maloofs, Geoff Petrie, and Rick Adelman. The Maloofs rebuilt this organization based on the coaching and demeanor of Rick Adelman. The Kings management are without exception gentlemen. They allow individual players to thrive by functioning within a sophisticated system. Kings' management typically incourages players that are inspired, yet disciplined. At the same time, these men demand well-mannered professionalism. The Kings organization generally brings quality individuals to Sacramento. That appeals to the old-fashioned, middle-class, Sacramento mentality. The team reflects kings management, which in turn reflects the community. It's easy to love the Kings.
Chris Webber is charming and good looking. Nevertheless, throughout his stay in Sacramento he always danced along the fringe of acceptable behavior. He was great at times, but missed a lot of games. He never really fired on all twelve cylinders. Vlade Divac was the glue that held things together during the ascendency of the Kings. Peja Stojakovic, Kenny Thomas, Lawrence Funderburke, Mike Bibby, Jon Barry, Brad Miller, Jimmy Jackson, Doug Christie. Corliss Williamson, Brian Skinner, Matt Barnes, and a lot of other good guys played a part in the success of the Kings. Players have come and gone. The irrefutable truth is that Kings management is responsible for the quality and character of men that have been brought to Sacramento. The Kings have a positive "identity" in the League, and certainly here in Sacramento.
If one attempts to assess personal impacts on the success of the Sacramento Kings, perhaps Rick Adelman and Geoff Petrie should have their modest sports jackets and turtle-neck sweaters hung from the rafters of ARCO Arena.
I think the Kings would have ascended pretty well without Chris Webber. I believe that the success of the Kings can better be atributed to the Maloofs, Geoff Petrie, and Rick Adelman. The Maloofs rebuilt this organization based on the coaching and demeanor of Rick Adelman. The Kings management are without exception gentlemen. They allow individual players to thrive by functioning within a sophisticated system. Kings' management typically incourages players that are inspired, yet disciplined. At the same time, these men demand well-mannered professionalism. The Kings organization generally brings quality individuals to Sacramento. That appeals to the old-fashioned, middle-class, Sacramento mentality. The team reflects kings management, which in turn reflects the community. It's easy to love the Kings.
Chris Webber is charming and good looking. Nevertheless, throughout his stay in Sacramento he always danced along the fringe of acceptable behavior. He was great at times, but missed a lot of games. He never really fired on all twelve cylinders. Vlade Divac was the glue that held things together during the ascendency of the Kings. Peja Stojakovic, Kenny Thomas, Lawrence Funderburke, Mike Bibby, Jon Barry, Brad Miller, Jimmy Jackson, Doug Christie. Corliss Williamson, Brian Skinner, Matt Barnes, and a lot of other good guys played a part in the success of the Kings. Players have come and gone. The irrefutable truth is that Kings management is responsible for the quality and character of men that have been brought to Sacramento. The Kings have a positive "identity" in the League, and certainly here in Sacramento.
If one attempts to assess personal impacts on the success of the Sacramento Kings, perhaps Rick Adelman and Geoff Petrie should have their modest sports jackets and turtle-neck sweaters hung from the rafters of ARCO Arena.
It will be retired and should be. If only he hadn't got injured but we'll never know how great he could have been "with 2 legs". He's still one of the best players in the NBA and I'm sure there's a lot of players out there who wish they could play as well on 2 legs as he does on 1, as Barkley and many journalists keeps pointing out. He has heart, how many players would have just called it quits after they blew out their knee, but not Webber? He loves the Kings and that's why he came back. He wanted championship and to retire in Kings jersey. Unfortunately if he does get ring it will not be as a King and that makes me sad. Thanks for being so classy and bringing so much to this great team.